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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/11/critics-trial-pope-benedict-xvi
Yes, Dawkins is a asshole (make another thread if you think he's right or wrong) but he has a point.
To put this in another light.
Say if a cannery had school tours going through and some employees would molest some of the studients, with the CEO/owner of said cannery covering up what is going on. This cannery is also the lifeblood of the town it's in and has a great deal of respect. What would you (legally) do?
Would you keep it quite for the good of the town?
Would you go after those commiting the original crime and leave those covering it up alone for the good of the town?
Would you want to clean house, arresting everyone who knowingly had a had in what was going on even if it shut down the cannery and you had to move away to find a new job?
It may seem simple, but in Canada there have been borderline cults living in closed communities that provided a encomic boom to nearby locals, buying and selling goods, so the locals kept quiet over sexual child abuses they knew were going on in that communitiy.
As it is now, those that commit the original crime (in the RCC) are being punished when they are finally discovered, often after years of decades of commiting abuses, while those that had actively protected them (usually keeping it hush hush and moving the pedophile to a new church) are untouched.
The defense from the RCC is that they have/are doing investigations (latest case from Kenya where child abuse claims were totally ignored by the curch) or it's a smear campaign. For the pope they claim he has immunity as head of state, but being that the vatican isn't actually a state puts that into doubt.
With a long standing record that is ongoing even now, the roman catholic church has covered up child abuse by it's members. They can not be trusted to police themselves and thus I want to see a international criminal investigation into the whole of the roman catholic church to uncover and imprision those who have commited child abuse and those who covered it up.
We ("the west" in general and other civilized nations) are not some backward islamic shithole where rape of children is common place, legal and accepted. Just becuase a organization claims to be speaking the word of god doesn't mean they are not held to our standards of humanity, on the contrary they should be held to a higher standard for what they claim to represent and the power they can have over peoples lives.
Even if the pope is innocent, there is still a lot of sum in this organization that needs to be removed.
Yes, Dawkins is a asshole (make another thread if you think he's right or wrong) but he has a point.
To put this in another light.
Say if a cannery had school tours going through and some employees would molest some of the studients, with the CEO/owner of said cannery covering up what is going on. This cannery is also the lifeblood of the town it's in and has a great deal of respect. What would you (legally) do?
Would you keep it quite for the good of the town?
Would you go after those commiting the original crime and leave those covering it up alone for the good of the town?
Would you want to clean house, arresting everyone who knowingly had a had in what was going on even if it shut down the cannery and you had to move away to find a new job?
It may seem simple, but in Canada there have been borderline cults living in closed communities that provided a encomic boom to nearby locals, buying and selling goods, so the locals kept quiet over sexual child abuses they knew were going on in that communitiy.
As it is now, those that commit the original crime (in the RCC) are being punished when they are finally discovered, often after years of decades of commiting abuses, while those that had actively protected them (usually keeping it hush hush and moving the pedophile to a new church) are untouched.
The defense from the RCC is that they have/are doing investigations (latest case from Kenya where child abuse claims were totally ignored by the curch) or it's a smear campaign. For the pope they claim he has immunity as head of state, but being that the vatican isn't actually a state puts that into doubt.
With a long standing record that is ongoing even now, the roman catholic church has covered up child abuse by it's members. They can not be trusted to police themselves and thus I want to see a international criminal investigation into the whole of the roman catholic church to uncover and imprision those who have commited child abuse and those who covered it up.
We ("the west" in general and other civilized nations) are not some backward islamic shithole where rape of children is common place, legal and accepted. Just becuase a organization claims to be speaking the word of god doesn't mean they are not held to our standards of humanity, on the contrary they should be held to a higher standard for what they claim to represent and the power they can have over peoples lives.
Even if the pope is innocent, there is still a lot of sum in this organization that needs to be removed.
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