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- Dec 29, 2002
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Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
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IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
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Nothing new under the sun. There was a mod pack for Doom that had Bill Clinton's head replacing one of the monsters. He would chase you through the maze spitting fatal "tax" and "spend" balloons. If you shot him, he would wince. To the Clinton voter it was hilarious.
monovillage
Diamond Member
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Compared to the lame comments that others were complaining about in this thread the one i posted with the link from *gasp* National Review is orders of magnitude worse. No outrage on my part, i'm more concerned about the 1st Amendment being castrated in regards to political speech, but i did get some chuckles from the hypocrisy from the left and their finger pointing about what was worse.
The targets on a map thing is silly, I agree. Not rationalizing, but both parties do it; I've seen a similar map for the dems. Sadly, we're living in an increasingly polarized, overcharged political world right now. I honestly am very concerned about mob politics. Mobs can be brutal, unthinking entities capable of doing great harm - irrespective of ideology.
All that being said, I'm still concerned about the impact of Hoffa's words. I'm a fair bit older thant the average poster on here (52). I remember the behavior of unions in the 60's and early 70's. Things could get very ugly when they didn't get their way. One of my college roommates bragged about a union strike where they vandalized the plant, burned a company helicopter and shot guard dogs. The Ohio National guard had to be called in to handle a violent Teamsters strike in 1970. I'm certainly not condemning all union members, but the memory of those incidents remain with me. And Jimmy Jr.'s dad was a wholly unsavory character, btw.
I think that Obama has a real opportunity to show some leadership in calling for civility, even to the point of publicly reprimanding Hoffa for his poor choice of words.
And lastly, thank you for your well stated and courteous reply.
All that being said, I'm still concerned about the impact of Hoffa's words. I'm a fair bit older thant the average poster on here (52). I remember the behavior of unions in the 60's and early 70's. Things could get very ugly when they didn't get their way. One of my college roommates bragged about a union strike where they vandalized the plant, burned a company helicopter and shot guard dogs. The Ohio National guard had to be called in to handle a violent Teamsters strike in 1970. I'm certainly not condemning all union members, but the memory of those incidents remain with me. And Jimmy Jr.'s dad was a wholly unsavory character, btw.
I think that Obama has a real opportunity to show some leadership in calling for civility, even to the point of publicly reprimanding Hoffa for his poor choice of words.
And lastly, thank you for your well stated and courteous reply.
werepossum
Elite Member
- Jul 10, 2006
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Funny how that works. Asking that public sector workers pay a bit of their own benefits costs (notably less than the average of the people whose taxes pay for those benefits) and removing their ability to have someone else negotiate fatter benefits on their behalf is considered to be fucking with their ability to provide for their families. Well, news flash - demanding higher taxes to provide them a sweeter deal than those who fund them is also considered to be fucking with taxpayers' ability to provide for their families, which is why taxpayers are also surly.
IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
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It would have been a better touch if when you died the zombies would actually come over and teabag you.
Yup, what would be fair is that nobody all had union protection instead of just some people and everybody made the minimum wage, everybody, that is, except the owners of production, all of whom should get 50 million in bonuses.
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kage69
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thraashman
Lifer
- Apr 10, 2000
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So he clearly says to use your vote, and the right says this is violence? I mean, I know they want to disenfranchise, but to try to make the left believe that voting is violence is a stretch. Because that's what you're doing right? I mean it's so far beyond obvious that he was saying to vote, so you're trying to convince the left that voting is violence right? Or am I reading this thread wrong and the American right is so unbelievably fucking stupid as to not understand how to read the complete context of something before judging it and believes he was making a call for violence? No, impossible, even the right isn't that completely and totally fucking retard level stupid!
Then again, the level of stupidity from the right does constantly seem to keep increasing. I've seen two people in this thread already not grasp that the Democrat party was once the conservative party and when they did all those horrible anti minority things they were led by many of the same people who held beliefs that are now staunchly Republican beliefs.
It's threads like this that make me unable to take conservatives seriously. Y'all are REALLY fucking stupid. Like SUPER DUPER stupid if you actually believe some of the shit you've posted in this thread.
Then again, the level of stupidity from the right does constantly seem to keep increasing. I've seen two people in this thread already not grasp that the Democrat party was once the conservative party and when they did all those horrible anti minority things they were led by many of the same people who held beliefs that are now staunchly Republican beliefs.
It's threads like this that make me unable to take conservatives seriously. Y'all are REALLY fucking stupid. Like SUPER DUPER stupid if you actually believe some of the shit you've posted in this thread.
zsdersw
Lifer
- Oct 29, 2003
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If a liberal makes an outrageous comment, liberals on these forums defend, deflect, or downplay. Conservatives attack, inflate, and criticize.
If a conservative makes an outrageous comment, conservatives on these forums defend, deflect, or downplay. Liberals attack, inflate, and criticize.
Yes, it's really that predictable and boring.
Just FYI.
If a conservative makes an outrageous comment, conservatives on these forums defend, deflect, or downplay. Liberals attack, inflate, and criticize.
Yes, it's really that predictable and boring.
Just FYI.
a777pilot
Diamond Member
- Apr 26, 2011
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Damn, was hoping you got through that mini stroke unscathed...
Doctors don't know shit.
BoomerD
No Lifer
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/...esident-hoffa-remarks-bachmann-180924810.html
The right, and especially the Tea Baggers are always using rhetoric that could be construed as advocating violence against their political opponents.
The right, and especially the Tea Baggers are always using rhetoric that could be construed as advocating violence against their political opponents.
thraashman
Lifer
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How dare you say something that I agree with! Go back to saying things I'm adamantly opposed to right this minute!
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