Call for civility

[Moonbeam]

lol, I hate Sarah Palin almost as much as you do. It's funny you think I'm a partisan, I have made my scorn for the Republican Party well known here, especially recently. I think the hypocrisy is great with stuff like this, we all know if this was a conservative saying this about liberals you guys would have an issue with it. Since its the other way around its "faux outrage".

It's quite amusing for those of us who are not beholdened to one political party and can actually see it.

Did your new found dislike for the Republicans create a new objective view on Labor? Isn't it being beholden to a point of view that's the bias here?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Liberals are the most uncivilized people on the planet. Big suprise........

You think so? Conservatives have been pretty ruthless and uncivilized all throughout history. Just take a look at US history...conservatives have been opposed to abolishment of slavery, women's right to vote, various minority rights to vote, etc.

Conservatives are pretty ruthless.

 

[QuantumPion]

conservatives have been opposed to abolishment of slavery, women's right to vote, various minority rights to vote, etc.

Conservatives are pretty ruthless.

Right, except for that whole civil war, 14th amendment, and 19th amendment, fought for and passed by conservatives. :hmm:

I remind you, the KKK and Jim Crowe were Democrats. No, not "southern democrats that were actually modern republicans". Just plain, ol' racist democrats. I also remind you that the first black senator, the NAACP, and Martin Luther King Jr. were all republicans.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Right, except for that whole civil war, 14th amendment, and 19th amendment, fought for and passed by conservatives. :hmm:

I remind you, the KKK and Jim Crowe were Democrats. No, not "southern democrats that were actually modern republicans". Just plain, ol' racist democrats. I also remind you that the first black senator, the NAACP, and Martin Luther King Jr. were all republicans.

The Democrats back then were conservative.

The Civil War was fought for and won by liberals over conservatives, too. The conservatives (e.g., the South) even betrayed our great nation and murdered millions of Americans in their betrayal. I'd say that is pretty damn ruthless.

Conservatives were against abolishment of slavery, women's right to vote, various minority groups right to vote, and so forth. Liberals had to go against conservatives and win these rights in the end.

Conservatives are generally very ruthless. Liberals are generally too busy hugging trees and protecting furry animals and crying about whales.

 

[Bowfinger]

lol, I hate Sarah Palin almost as much as you do.

You may want to reconsider then, since I don't hate Palin at all. I think she is an empty-headed opportunist who has a great talent for firing up a certain segment of the population ... and driving away most of the rest. I think she was and will be a horrible public servant and political leader. I certainly don't respect her or support her, but I also don't hate her.

It's funny you think I'm a partisan,

Yes, having read thousands of your posts full of nothing but venom for the left and excuses for the right, I can certainly understand your confusion.

I have made my scorn for the Republican Party well known here, especially recently.

More like "only" recently, and within rather narrow boundaries.

I think the hypocrisy is great with stuff like this, we all know if this was a conservative saying this about liberals you guys would have an issue with it.

Somewhat agree, you'll find outrage at comparable comments by right wing government officials and political party leaders. Hoffa is neither of those. He is the head of a private sector organization, much akin to a CEO of a corporation. I'd be interested to see examples of similar outrage to comparable comments by a CEO.

Since its the other way around its "faux outrage".

First, two wrongs don't make a right. Second, Hoffa's comments were deliberately twisted out of context. As I agreed above, however, they were poorly worded in a way that invites such dishonest twisting.

It's quite amusing for those of us who are not beholdened to one political party and can actually see it.

Now that's funny!

 

[feralkid]

I have made my scorn for the Republican Party well known here, especially recently.

Yeah, yeah, we know; and some of your best friends are Black and Poor and Jewish and Democrats.


Pull the other one.

 

[nick1985]

Yeah, yeah, we know; and some of your best friends are Black and Poor and Jewish and Democrats.


Pull the other one.

Huh?

 

[Red Dawn]

Tea Party should call for all members to meet Hoffa's "declaration of war" by killing all union members and welfare recipients.
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Figuratively speaking of course! I meant at the ballot box! Kill them at the ballot box next November!

And they'll retaliate by taking down the Rascal Scooter Manufactuer, that would really put the Teabaggers in a bind.

 

[Red Dawn]

Maybe. Then again, Angle doesn't have an army of surly union workers at her command nor is she the president of the united states.

You fuck with my means of providing for my family and I'd be surly too. Fuck with it too much and your physical well being would be in jeopardy. Don't try to hurt their means of supporting their family and you have nothing to worry about.

 

[Jhhnn]

Lots of Conservatives take the Bible literally, too, when it's convenient. So it is with Hoffa's remarks, particularly snipping them out of context.

Standard faux outrage, part & parcel of their persecution complex.

Wahmbulances all around.

Anybody else remember their raving about "Death Panels" in the runup to the 2010 election, their Mediscare tactic, and the subsequent calls for "civility" when attacked for their own proposals? I do-

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_05/house_gop_freshmen_convenientl029501.php

It's always the same. When they want to cut Medicare, or welfare, or food stamps, why, that's just good policy. When anybody suggests raising taxes at the top, why, that's class warfare, comparable to the Nazi invasion of Poland-

"It's a war," Schwarzman said of the struggle with the administration over increasing taxes on private-equity firms. "It's like when Hitler invaded Poland in 1939."

http://www.salon.com/technology/how_the_world_works/2010/08/16/obama_invades_poland

Civility, indeed.

 

[Craig234]

The story here is: Fox is lying about the meaning of the statement.

 

[Bitek]

Wow, the clip clearly said "we each have a vote and we should take the SOBs out"

but since you bring up the topic in that way, maybe they should really say "or we'll just have to use 2nd amendment remedies" and "bring em down where we can treat them real ugly."

Yeah, what's with that pussy voting BS anyway? Do they want to win or not?

Or were you just complaining about the pottymouth offending in good christians of the GOP?

 

[monovillage]

You fuck with my means of providing for my family and I'd be surly too. Fuck with it too much and your physical well being would be in jeopardy. Don't try to hurt their means of supporting their family and you have nothing to worry about.

I'd sure hate to be your boss that had to lay you off or fire you.

 

[Craig234]

Wow, the clip clearly said "we each have a vote and we should take the SOBs out"

but since you bring up the topic in that way, maybe they should really say "or we'll just have to use 2nd amendment remedies" and "bring em down where we can treat them real ugly."

Yeah, what's with that pussy voting BS anyway? Do they want to win or not?

Or were you just complaining about the pottymouth offending in good christians of the GOP?

I don't think one whiner about this said a word against your examples above.

 

[monovillage]

This should make you happy, a game where you can kill Palin, Koch bros, Gingrich, Hannity, O'Reilly and many other Conservatives and/or Republicans. Wow what fun, does it really matter that they get called "zombies", nice recognizable faces. Yeah civility.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/276418/tea-party-zombies-must-die-daniel-foster

 

[finglobes]

The abolitionists were Republican - the party was founded as abolition party. The Dems were party of slaveholders. After the Civil War it was Dems who instituted Jim Crow (one reason being to keep Republican slaves from voting). Republicans pushed for anti-lynching laws all the way up to FDR - who rejected them out of fear of losing Dem voters in South. In was Eisenhower who pushed first major civil rights reform (rejected by Dems just as they rejected anti-lynching laws - which were supported by 70% of US population according to Gallup at the time).


Dems only switched to Civil Rights support when they realized they had no choice. President Johnson said "I'll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years". Democrats have been using blacks ever since - Dems increased their dependency and broke their family (black illegitimacy was close to whites prior to 1960s). Even Obama doesn't care about blacks. He never saw himself as black. He thinks he better than a simple race classification.


Keep in mind it was the spiritually committed class that A) initiated the Revolution B) were abolitionists. Modern dems are against these very people today. Modern Dems have no religion or morals. They have made not having morals seem the most moral, They wage war against people who have morals. Modern Dems are Marxist oriented. Obama's class warefare is OBVIOUS example of that.

 

[1prophet]

Maybe if the Teamsters and other unions had balls like the unions in Europe during NAFTA, GATT, the recent free trade agreement with South Korea, etc., instead of being lapdogs for their corporate Democrat puppet masters who always end up stabbing them in the back while claiming to defend them against the evil Republicans,

groups like the Tea Party would be no more relevant then the communist party was in the 1990's.

 

[pcgeek11]

Call for civility. Civility among Politicians is like Virginity among Whores.

 

[Red Dawn]

This should make you happy, a game where you can kill Palin, Koch bros, Gingrich, Hannity, O'Reilly and many other Conservatives and/or Republicans. Wow what fun, does it really matter that they get called "zombies", nice recognizable faces. Yeah civility.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/276418/tea-party-zombies-must-die-daniel-foster

Lol @ National Review Online. Sounds like you are an outrage junkie

 

[jhbball]

You may want to reconsider then, since I don't hate Palin at all. I think she is an empty-headed opportunist who has a great talent for firing up a certain segment of the population ... and driving away most of the rest. I think she was and will be a horrible public servant and political leader. I certainly don't respect her or support her, but I also don't hate her.


Yes, having read thousands of your posts full of nothing but venom for the left and excuses for the right, I can certainly understand your confusion.


More like "only" recently, and within rather narrow boundaries.


Somewhat agree, you'll find outrage at comparable comments by right wing government officials and political party leaders. Hoffa is neither of those. He is the head of a private sector organization, much akin to a CEO of a corporation. I'd be interested to see examples of similar outrage to comparable comments by a CEO.


First, two wrongs don't make a right. Second, Hoffa's comments were deliberately twisted out of context. As I agreed above, however, they were poorly worded in a way that invites such dishonest twisting.


Now that's funny!

TKO.

 

[QuantumPion]

You fuck with my means of providing for my family and I'd be surly too. Fuck with it too much and your physical well being would be in jeopardy. Don't try to hurt their means of supporting their family and you have nothing to worry about.

Right, except when your means of providing for your family is stealing from mine, why shouldn't I have the exact same attitude?

 

[Moonbeam]

The abolitionists were Republican - the party was founded as abolition party. The Dems were party of slaveholders. After the Civil War it was Dems who instituted Jim Crow (one reason being to keep Republican slaves from voting). Republicans pushed for anti-lynching laws all the way up to FDR - who rejected them out of fear of losing Dem voters in South. In was Eisenhower who pushed first major civil rights reform (rejected by Dems just as they rejected anti-lynching laws - which were supported by 70% of US population according to Gallup at the time).


Dems only switched to Civil Rights support when they realized they had no choice. President Johnson said "I'll have those ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years". Democrats have been using blacks ever since - Dems increased their dependency and broke their family (black illegitimacy was close to whites prior to 1960s). Even Obama doesn't care about blacks. He never saw himself as black. He thinks he better than a simple race classification.


Keep in mind it was the spiritually committed class that A) initiated the Revolution B) were abolitionists. Modern dems are against these very people today. Modern Dems have no religion or morals. They have made not having morals seem the most moral, They wage war against people who have morals. Modern Dems are Marxist oriented. Obama's class warefare is OBVIOUS example of that.

And there it is, folk, in all it's glory, the holy war against liberals, the reason they are dirt and beneath contempt and why no compromise must be made with them. They are the enemies of life, love, truth, God, and the Kingdom of Heaven. What liberals seek is the subversion of the triumph of good over evil and the average person has no idea how serious the threat is. Only those who are lit from within by the light of God can save us.

 

[Jaskalas]

You fuck with my means of providing for my family and I'd be surly too. Fuck with it too much and your physical well being would be in jeopardy. Don't try to hurt their means of supporting their family and you have nothing to worry about.

When your means depend on a bankrupt government, surely it will get f'ed with.

Their solution? More bankrupt policy. Crash the system faster and harder, just so long as they get theirs in the short term.

 

[Moonbeam]

Right, except when your means of providing for your family is stealing from mine, why shouldn't I have the exact same attitude?

Exactly, when folk strike for higher wages or try to protect jobs the Chinese can do cheeper, you steel from the factory owner, and when you vote for taxes to pay for welfare you steal from others too.

Everybody has a moral justification for what they believe. This is what makes the other person wrong.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

"Tea Party groups roundly condemned Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa after he called on union supporters unhappy with congressional Republicans to "take these son-of-a-bitches out."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/06/tea-party-groups-condemn-hoffa-sob-remark/


Oh, and "Asked about Hoffa's comments Tuesday, Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz declined to condemn them."

lol.



Call for civility, remember???

The irony is strong in this post.