California water rationing:50 gallons per person per day or $500 fine

[Ns1]

There are some major cities in California that homes do not have meters.

Can you please name 1.

 

[Fern]

I thought that water used in the home was more-or-less a closed loop system. I.e., the water goes into the sewage system where it is treated and then used again as fresh water. I.e., it's recycled. If so, this sort of restriction is stupid. Seems to me the water escaping, like that used to water the lawn or wash the car, is where the restriction needs to be.

Fern

 

[Fern]

One good solution is to allow the illegal invasion to continue as much as possible...

LOL

Fern

 

[Leymenaide]

Most of the

 

[Ns1]

Most of the

mind = blown, but the graph you just provided is not the same as what you had originally stated.

 

[peonyu]

50 Gallons is actually alot on a per person basis. Even showering with a 3 Gallon per minute showerhead equals out to a 6 minute shower using 18 gallons. That leaves 32 Gallons for water to drink, make food with, clean with etc. The problem arises with washing dishes or washing clothes, but it looks like this is a cumulative "limit", so if its a single person home, unless you party every day I dont see a need to use a fully loaded dish or clothes washer every day. Homes with more people will have the limit multiplied so washing clothes and dishes shouldnt be a problem. Its the dingbats who take 20 minute showers or leave the water faucet running just cause they are to lazy to turn it on and off while brushing their teeth that waste water.

 

[Fern]

Most of the

Damn. I thought your claim was bogus.

I don't see how an unmetered system works.

Fern

 

[iGas]

Such calculations are unnecessary. The government limits showerheads to 2.5gpm. Really old units can run 5.5 gpm.

Hence old shower heads tend to not work as design, because most of the time the pressure is lower than the design minimum of around 3 GPM.

 

[Fern]

50 Gallons is actually alot on a per person basis. Even showering with a 3 Gallon per minute showerhead equals out to a 6 minute shower using 18 gallons. -snip-

I suspect many of you making this claim that 50 gallons per day is a lot don't live with teenagers and women. I've seen my kid blow through 6 minutes of waters while he tries to wake up and get the water hot etc.

I also remember when I played a lot of sports and worked out a lot. I had two showers a day; one in the morning and one after working out.

personally I don't care what CA does. I don't live there and at my home I'm on a well. I can use whatever the h3ll I want.

Fern

 

[Attic]

Most of the

What in the,.. how in the...

 

[Ns1]

Damn. I thought your claim was bogus.

I don't see how an unmetered system works.

Fern

his claim is still bogus. his claim was "major cities in CA are unmetered" which is false. The reality is some percentage of the population in these cities are unmetered.

don't get me wrong though, wtf's all around.

 

[Fayd]

Then you need to be more responsible.....why shampoo 2 times??

rinse and repeat.

 

[Vic]

Most water usage studies take into account the water used to produce the products that people consume.
And Natural News? Dave has sunk to a new low.

 

[Greenman]

Damn. I thought your claim was bogus.

I don't see how an unmetered system works.

Fern

Most likely it's a flat rate paid monthly or attached to your property taxes. The reality is the water is free, it's getting it to your house that costs money. Once that infrastructure is in place, the only cost difference between moving a hundred or a thousand gallons of water is energy. The rest of the system carries the same overhead regardless of use.

 

[Jerem]

I've had a well go dry and wound up living off of a 500 gallon tank I'd fill at the neighbors. The Mrs. and I would use about 40gals. each/day. We would wash clothes at a laundry mat, only flush when brown, navy showers. Now some of you city folk could easily get by with less. Hell, you could shower every other day and wear your clothes three or four times and no one would know the difference. By the sounds of it some of you don't even wait for your showers to get warm before diving in.. Everybody talks a great game but I haven't seen anybody actually post up a water bill (or summary of).

 

[OverVolt]

If its yellow go out in the yard and kill some grass, if its brown go to the nearest store.

 

[brycejones]

I thought that water used in the home was more-or-less a closed loop system. I.e., the water goes into the sewage system where it is treated and then used again as fresh water. I.e., it's recycled. If so, this sort of restriction is stupid. Seems to me the water escaping, like that used to water the lawn or wash the car, is where the restriction needs to be.

Fern

You couldn't be more mistaken, there are very few water systems in the US that operate that way. Something about the fear of drinking pee water. Doesn't matter that in most places its dumped into a river where it is pulled into the next town's treatment system and turned drinking water.

 

[Fern]

You couldn't be more mistaken, there are very few water systems in the US that operate that way. Something about the fear of drinking pee water. Doesn't matter that in most places its dumped into a river where it is pulled into the next town's treatment system and turned drinking water.

http://www.acwa.com/content/water-recycling/californias-water-water-recycling-imitates-nature

Many people associate the word “recycling” with glass bottles and aluminum cans, but the fact is California water agencies and communities have been recycling water for decades with great success. With scores of new recycling projects in the planning stages, the amount of water recycled in California is expected to greatly expand in the near future.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/01/world/from-toilet-to-tap-water/

Fern

 

[brycejones]

http://www.acwa.com/content/water-recycling/californias-water-water-recycling-imitates-nature



http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/01/world/from-toilet-to-tap-water/

Fern

Your first article focuses on using treated water as non-potable water which is not the same thing as the "closed" system you were speculating about. From the second article out of 1.3 billion gallons treated per day they are expanding to reclaim 100 million gallons per day to put back into the system. Still not exactly a closed loop when more than 90% isn't reclaimed and reused at the tap.

 

[Fern]

Your first article focuses on using treated water as non-potable water which is not the same thing as the "closed" system you were speculating about.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. However, the in-home is captured and reused. The 'loss' would appear to occur in outdoor water use.

From the second article out of 1.3 billion gallons treated per day they are expanding to reclaim 100 million gallons per day to put back into the system. Still not exactly a closed loop when more than 90% isn't reclaimed and reused at the tap.

I read it a bit differently. They using a portion of the 1.3 billion gallons to generate 100 million gallons. I can't find a ration of sewage treated:reclaimed drinking water.

Instead it seems the system is small.

In any case, I was mistaken in that I initially thought CA was much more involved in recycling water. I added the link to show I wasn't just 'making up' the concept (i.e., you wrote I couldn't be "more wrong".)

Fern

 

[JulesMaximus]

Save water, shower with a friend.

 

[brycejones]

Yeah, I'm aware of that. However, the in-home is captured and reused. The 'loss' would appear to occur in outdoor water use.



I read it a bit differently. They using a portion of the 1.3 billion gallons to generate 100 million gallons. I can't find a ration of sewage treated:reclaimed drinking water.

Instead it seems the system is small.

In any case, I was mistaken in that I initially thought CA was much more involved in recycling water. I added the link to show I wasn't just 'making up' the concept (i.e., you wrote I couldn't be "more wrong".)

Fern

I didn't say you were wrong about the concept just about it being used widely and assuming it was how municipal water systems worked.

 

[brycejones]

Save water, shower with a friend.

Do you need a separate consent for that in California?

 

[master_shake_]

Do you need a separate consent for that in California?

as long as there is no penetration.

do you mean to tell me a state that has little to no access to fresh water is having a drought?!

you don't say.jpeg

 

[dainthomas]

wasn't a problem until we got to "historic drought" status. Now, WA/OR is looking pretty good!

Stay away. There's no extra water here.