California state senator Leland Yee (D) indicted on arms trafficking, corruption.

[BoberFett]

Supply and demand applies to coercive power unless there is an authority to regulate it out, so a free market may purchase an unfree one beneath it through the purchase of coercion.

A government was demanded. A government was supplied. For its existence to not suffer from market failures it had to be coercive, so coercive powers were purchased. Yee marketed himself as being able to supply a continuation of government services. His services were purchased. He then sold shares in his monopoly power.

That the continuation of the government is coercive doesn't change that his sale of his influence was not. He did not use the government to steal the bribe money, he sold government power for money. He was in possession of a resource and he voluntarily exchanged it for money. The free market at work!

The training dummy speaks again.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Keep it going Dems, you're looking mighty well positioned for the mid-terms.

You know you're cheering on a validation of liberalism and a denouncement of conservatism, right?
Under the conservative good old boy network he would be the Law. There would be no nosy Feds to tell him whether he had to desegregate his schools or take the cross from his courthouse lawn.

Liberals regulate according to objective principles; conservatives by subjective double standards and without much understanding or thought on how much of anything works. (If it's complicated, it's for "God" to figure out.)

 

[DominionSeraph]

The training dummy speaks again.

I wooshed you again, eh?
Run along.

 

[BoberFett]

I wooshed you again, eh?
Run along.

Don't you have a pony to blow?

 

[davmat787]

I don't view this as an opportunity for the R's to get one over the D's. These guys are so corrupt and inept it is only time before the tables are turned.

What is important to me is just how many more of these shenanigans have to play out before we get sick and tired of our ineffectual government?

 

[davmat787]

You know you're cheering on a validation of liberalism and a denouncement of conservatism, right?
Under the conservative good old boy network he would be the Law. There would be no nosy Feds to tell him whether he had to desegregate his schools or take the cross from his courthouse lawn.

Liberals regulate according to objective principles; conservatives by subjective double standards and without much understanding or thought on how much of anything works. (If it's complicated, it's for "God" to figure out.)

Gee, you don't sound nervous and just a tad desperate at all. But that is what you get for rooting for a team rather than the league as a whole. What is even funnier is that you seriously think you got one over on BoberFett, but that is merely a symptom of a falsely inflated IQ and overrated self intelligence.

Truly intelligent people don't need to go around constantly reminding others to that "fact". The work would speak for itself.

 

[werepossum]

I am beginning to think if Obama nuked NY City, you would find some way to blame Conservatives. You really are in a class by yourself.

A remedial class, for which the teacher's instructions are "We don't expect him to actually learn and we don't expect you to keep him from eating the chalk, but please keep him from choking on an eraser again."

 

[DominionSeraph]

Gee, you don't sound nervous and just a tad desperate at all.

Stop reading your own self-serving delusions into my posts.

Power is a commodity and greed is universal. There's nothing special about a politician being corrupt. It's a foreseeable issue. So the only question is how to bulwark against it. The conservative answer is to do nothing -- to imagine that everything is working fine unless and until it spills out into public that it's not, and only then to react. The liberal answer is oversight.
Praising the FBI for a fact-based criminal investigation is not praising a conservative system. If the FBI had lynched him for being black and wearing a hoodie, I'd agree that it was a bad day for liberalism. I'd be rather sick over the conservative success. But that's not what we had.

But that is what you get for rooting for a team rather than the league as a whole. What is even funnier is that you seriously think you got one over on BoberFett, but that is merely a symptom of a falsely inflated IQ and overrated self intelligence.

Woosh X2.

 

[Matt1970]

Stop reading your own self-serving delusions into my posts.

Power is a commodity and greed is universal. There's nothing special about a politician being corrupt. It's a foreseeable issue. So the only question is how to bulwark against it. The conservative answer is to do nothing -- to imagine that everything is working fine unless and until it spills out into public that it's not, and only then to react. The liberal answer is oversight.
Praising the FBI for a fact-based criminal investigation is not praising a conservative system. If the FBI had lynched him for being black and wearing a hoodie, I'd agree that it was a bad day for liberalism. I'd be rather sick over the conservative success. But that's not what we had.
.

You couldn't be more full of shit if your life depended on it. The liberal answer is not oversight as they never really see a problem and the only reason they aren't trying to sweep this under the rug or blame it on Repubs making up faux scandals is that this one is pretty cut and dry.

 

[FerrelGeek]

I think you just won the ATPN mental masturbation award. I think the only way you could top it is by rationalizing a lib turning out to be a serial child molester.

Supply and demand applies to coercive power unless there is an authority to regulate it out, so a free market may purchase an unfree one beneath it through the purchase of coercion.

A government was demanded. A government was supplied. For its existence to not suffer from market failures it had to be coercive, so coercive powers were purchased. Yee marketed himself as being able to supply a continuation of government services. His services were purchased. He then sold shares in his monopoly power.

That the continuation of the government is coercive doesn't change that his sale of his influence was not. He did not use the government to steal the bribe money, he sold government power for money. He was in possession of a resource and he voluntarily exchanged it for money. The free market at work!

 

[DominionSeraph]

I think you just won the ATPN mental masturbation award. I think the only way you could top it is by rationalizing a lib turning out to be a serial child molester.

>doesn't understand it was making fun of conservatism.

Woosh X3.

 

[PliotronX]

Wow, is my calendar wrong and it's April 1st? Being that Yee is one of the biggest proponents of gun laws, this indictment is as ironic as Dianne Feinstein also pushing bans while at the same time carrying a gun with an elite permit of her own.

 

[FerrelGeek]

>doesn't understand it was making fun of conservatism.

Woosh X3.

I was making fun of you as well. Your post wasn't even good sarcasm.

 

[Kadarin]

Here are the rest of them sounding like weasels and trying to distance themselves from Yee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ5Hx3ypqI0#t=145

 

[Drako]

Here are the rest of them sounding like weasels and trying to distance themselves from Yee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ5Hx3ypqI0#t=145

Darrell Steinberg - the slimiest of all the slimy weasels. :biggrin:

 

[werepossum]

Wow, is my calendar wrong and it's April 1st? Being that Yee is one of the biggest proponents of gun laws, this indictment is as ironic as Dianne Feinstein also pushing bans while at the same time carrying a gun with an elite permit of her own.

Hey, makes sense. Hard to make a fortune selling guns if people can buy them legally.

 

[Sonikku]

Try to take our video games from us will you! Rot in hell Yee.

 

[davmat787]

Stop reading your own self-serving delusions into my posts.

Power is a commodity and greed is universal. There's nothing special about a politician being corrupt. It's a foreseeable issue. So the only question is how to bulwark against it. The conservative answer is to do nothing -- to imagine that everything is working fine unless and until it spills out into public that it's not, and only then to react. The liberal answer is oversight.
Praising the FBI for a fact-based criminal investigation is not praising a conservative system. If the FBI had lynched him for being black and wearing a hoodie, I'd agree that it was a bad day for liberalism. I'd be rather sick over the conservative success. But that's not what we had.



Woosh X2.

You must have missed my post #55 where I stated this news is not a good opportunity for the R's to get one over the D's. Next time corruption is exposed, it could just as easily be from the R's. I am sick of them all.

No idea why you always have to inject imaginary racism into your comments towards conservatives. I guess it makes it easier to hate and rage?

It would be a pleasant surprise if you could simply discuss the topic at hand like an adult, but your not here to have an honest conversation, are you?

For someone who professes to be extremely intelligent, one would think you most used word might be something other than "conservatard" and that you would actually engage in civil discourse rather than simple trolling.

 

[chucky2]

It's weird, I see the same type of delusional mental drama from both Pony and Moon. I wonder if one is an alt or they know each other?

 

[Knowing]

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/state-senate-set-vote-yee-suspension/nfM3F/

SACRAMENTO —
The Democratically controlled California Senate has voted to suspend three Democrats who face charges in separate criminal cases, after the latest lawmaker to be hauled into court refused to step down.
Friday's 28-1 vote in the 40-member chamber came amid one of the most severe ethical crises in modern times for the Legislature in the nation's most populous state.

Looks like they're trying to stop the bleeding.

 

[etrigan420]

"Investigators said Yee discussed helping the agent get weapons, including shoulder-fired missiles, from a Muslim separatist group in the Philippines to help pay off campaign debts."

I'm not sure you could make this stuff up.

What an ass-hat.

 

[olds]

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/state-senate-set-vote-yee-suspension/nfM3F/


Looks like they're trying to stop the bleeding.

Suspended, with pay.

 

[werepossum]

Suspended, with pay.

Or as the rest of us know it, a paid vacation.

 

[olds]

LOLOLOLOL...
Gun Grabber Keith Farnham’s Office Raided By Feds Searching For Child Porn!
http://freepatriot.org/2014/03/27/gun-grabber-keith-farnhams-office-raided-feds/

 

[Stewox]

Anybody mentioned that this guy also sponsors anti-gun legislations ?