California Republican sends E-mail depicting Obama as an ape

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Lifer
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I like how you idiots think I'm wrong for saying Obama isn't much smarter than Bush. Proof is in the pudding. Also, it's not racist unless it was designed specifically for that. You weren't the creator, you don't get to deem what it is or isn't. You're just being a bunch of emotional pansies. If it's purpose was to be racist, they are idiots, if it wasn't you are idiots. Either way, someones a fucking idiot.
 

WelshBloke

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I like how you idiots think I'm wrong for saying Obama isn't much smarter than Bush. Proof is in the pudding. Also, it's not racist unless it was designed specifically for that. You weren't the creator, you don't get to deem what it is or isn't. You're just being a bunch of emotional pansies. If it's purpose was to be racist, they are idiots, if it wasn't you are idiots. Either way, someones a fucking idiot.


Really?

Go take a walk, forget about arguing on the forums.

Then think about why someone would portray a black man as a chimp.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Really?

Go take a walk, forget about arguing on the forums.

Then think about why someone would portray a black man as a chimp.

Do you have studies which say why this person is acting this way or is it all anecdotal?

(It's a poke back from elsewhere :p)


No one knows the motivation for this so assuming it's racist doesn't make it so. The problem as I see it is that a political animal should know it would be taken that way whether it's believed or it's a convenient tool to club the opposition.

To borrow from another thread it's about perception. Reality isn't important because the results are the same and the pol should have known it.

Darwin fail.
 

bfdd

Lifer
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Do you have studies which say why this person is acting this way or is it all anecdotal?

(It's a poke back from elsewhere :p)


No one knows the motivation for this so assuming it's racist doesn't make it so. The problem as I see it is that a political animal should know it would be taken that way whether it's believed or it's a convenient tool to club the opposition.

To borrow from another thread it's about perception. Reality isn't important because the results are the same and the pol should have known it.

Darwin fail.
Pretty much ALL IM SAYING. BTW, why would anyone make Obama into a chimp? Oh I don't know... maybe because people made the comparison with Bush? Honestly... how does that skip your mind, but the racist remarks people made 100+ years ago about Blacks being related to Chimps pop in? Talk about selective memory. You're all just assuming shit because that's what you've been trained to do. Give an emotional response, instead of thinking shit through.

Sure it can be racist, I'm not saying it can't, but to assume it is right off the bat says more about you than the person who made the picture.
 

spidey07

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1.) No he doesn't.
2.) Every president uses teleprompters constantly. Bush said as much dumb shit as he did WITH a teleprompter.

As I said before, black people in America were enslaved for centuries in one of the most shameful acts this nation has ever been engaged in. It was justified in a significant part by the idea that they were subhuman and apelike. With that in mind, is there any person with any understanding of human society whatsoever surprised that showing black people to be subhuman and apelike today is more offensive than doing the same thing to a white person? How is this difficult to understand?

Because we live in a post racial society. No double standards, because those be all racial and stuff. Don't be so racial.

But without keeping the black man down, democrats wouldn't have voters. The successful black man is their worst enemy, and they know it. So they continue to enslave them. Without the underclass mentality democrats would cease to exist, so they will ALWAYs perpetuate the victim mentality (victocrat for short). You're living proof.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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Do you have studies which say why this person is acting this way or is it all anecdotal?

(It's a poke back from elsewhere :p)


No one knows the motivation for this so assuming it's racist doesn't make it so. The problem as I see it is that a political animal should know it would be taken that way whether it's believed or it's a convenient tool to club the opposition.

To borrow from another thread it's about perception. Reality isn't important because the results are the same and the pol should have known it.

Darwin fail.

OK, so what do you think he was going for when he portrayed Obama as a Chimp?
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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But Bush makes chimp faces, and has similar cognitive abilities.

With Obama, there isn't much of a relevant comparison, other than racial overtones.

we know that teabaggers have no humor. just racial invective. so, I'm gonna go with that one.

but I'm gonna laugh at all this, b/c it's just silly.

That is what I said... Big Deal.
 

Leon

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I'll explain so even the apologists can understand....maybe...


Call Bush a spook, means nothing
Call Obama a spook totally different meaning.


For those of you who didn't major in English, there are a classs of words used as perjoratives for certain races of people. Do some reading and them come back here.

Eeeh... spook is commonly used for "secret agent". How's that's racist in any way?. /Confused/

Leon
 

pcgeek11

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... and as pointed out several times in this thread alone... no, it wasn't.

So you are now the judge.

Man # 01 portrayed as a chimp.
Man # 02 portrayed as a chimp.

They look pretty much like the same thing to me. I think you are the one that must be racist as you have to tie race into everything.
 

Steeplerot

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But without keeping the black man down, democrats wouldn't have voters. The successful black man is their worst enemy, and they know it. So they continue to enslave them. Without the underclass mentality democrats would cease to exist, so they will ALWAYs perpetuate the victim mentality (victocrat for short). You're living proof.

This is the same lame argument conspiracy you guys have used since the civil war for slavery. Get over it losers.
 

Steeplerot

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I think you are the one that must be racist as you have to tie race into everything.

If it was somewhere else then the USA sure, but anyone with a clue knows our recent history with tying African-Americans with lesser evolved.

This is a simple projection that all racism/biases uses for rationalization of how you couldn't be the one who are racist. Not saying you are but its a piss poor argument.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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This is THE funniest thread ever bar none about how to spin something so obviously racist into something that may not be.

If there are any lawyers perusing this thread, they suredly must be laughing their asses off at some of the "clever" deflective comments being spread in this thread.

C'mon, really.:D
 

zinfamous

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I like how you idiots think I'm wrong for saying Obama isn't much smarter than Bush. Proof is in the pudding. Also, it's not racist unless it was designed specifically for that. You weren't the creator, you don't get to deem what it is or isn't. You're just being a bunch of emotional pansies. If it's purpose was to be racist, they are idiots, if it wasn't you are idiots. Either way, someones a fucking idiot.

lolno.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Tasteless action by a inconsequential party member magnified by a partisan hack to broadly denigrate his perceived enemies...wow. Party of Intellectualism my ass.

but teabaggers are racist...those that speak publicly, at least. I would hesitate to label all of them as such, but based on the signs and their so-called leaders, the whole movement in some ways seems like anger at being under a black president, masked under the thinly-veiled BS of "We hate taxes."

their is nothing new about taxes being a problem. freedom is no more under threat by the burden of taxes than it has been in the previous 50 years. it's all bullshit, of course, spurred on by a TV entertainer that purports to believe that Obama is a Nazi sympathizer (his character believes that-not the eral GB; but drolling pusbags that listen to him believe it to be rote truth.)
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Pretty much ALL IM SAYING. BTW, why would anyone make Obama into a chimp? Oh I don't know... maybe because people made the comparison with Bush? Honestly... how does that skip your mind, but the racist remarks people made 100+ years ago about Blacks being related to Chimps pop in? Talk about selective memory. You're all just assuming shit because that's what you've been trained to do. Give an emotional response, instead of thinking shit through.

Sure it can be racist, I'm not saying it can't, but to assume it is right off the bat says more about you than the person who made the picture.

Simply because one believes themselves not to be racist, doesn't mean that they aren't.
 

wayliff

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Simply because one believes themselves not to be racist, doesn't mean that they aren't.

Totally agree - there's a lot of denial about this from a lot of people.
I don't know what it is ... I think it is the environment one grows up in that makes you like that.

Difference in race should not even register in ones brain but somehow we get programmed for the opposite.
 

OrByte

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Jul 21, 2000
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Wow. it surprises me all the defending and deflecting in this thread.

Seems alot of our resident "conservatives" have some racists leanings to sort out.

I don't remember white people being referred to as "porch monkeys" That's just one of the reasons why I think portraying any black person as a monkey is racist, and why GWB being portrayed as a monkey is not.

Why do some of you people WANT to defend a Tea Party racist!?
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Wow. it surprises me all the defending and deflecting in this thread.

Seems alot of our resident "conservatives" have some racists leanings to sort out.

I don't remember white people being referred to as "porch monkeys" That's just one of the reasons why I think portraying any black person as a monkey is racist, and why GWB being portrayed as a monkey is not.

Why do some of you people WANT to defend a Tea Party racist!?
Because when they look at one of them it's as if they are looking in the mirror.
 
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but teabaggers are racist...those that speak publicly, at least. I would hesitate to label all of them as such, but based on the signs and their so-called leaders, the whole movement in some ways seems like anger at being under a black president, masked under the thinly-veiled BS of "We hate taxes."
Using your logic perhaps we can conclude that Progressives are also racist from the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ctO7fdrcc
"Progressive" Ralliers Call for Lynching of Clarence Thomas

"Hang him", "lynch him", "put him back in the fields". So tell me, is it fair to label Progressives as racist?

You talk of thinly-veiled bullshit and then blindly wallow in it...oblivious to the stench of your own bigotry rooted in highly partisan bias. How nice.
 

Red Dawn

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Using your logic perhaps we can conclude that Progressives are also racist from the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ctO7fdrcc
"Progressive" Ralliers Call for Lynching of Clarence Thomas

"Hang him", "lynch him", "put him back in the fields". So tell me, is it fair to label Progressives as racist?

You talk of thinly-veiled bullshit and then blindly wallow in it...oblivious to the stench of your own bigotry rooted in highly partisan bias. How nice.
Yeah a lot of those in that clip would fit right in at a Tea Party Rally