California police use of body cameras cuts violence and complaints

[ch33zw1z]

He's just thinking of long term effects... which I can see it going down that road and having many unpleasant consequences. All issues like you quoted start of with small steps - "for the good of the general public" - It could very well lead to city surveillance (off your list) given enough time - along with many other things... a problem is always easier to stop when it is smaller... but first the majority has to realize their own rights are hanging in the balance - it isn't just the rights of the police; but the citizen as well who encounters them.

City surveillance is already happening, that's why it's on the list. Everything on my list is already happening.

In contrast, the cameras are for the good of the police and our tax dollars just as much as for us, and this time the claim is legitimate.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DYcxF_Yd70

this is why they are good, I like them, but I just worry about people being so coy about turning this country into Big Brother.

Uh...government accountability is the OPPOSITE of Big Brother. Calling it the opposite of what it actually is in order to try to get people to believe it's the opposite of what it actually is...now THAT is big brother shit. "War is Peace", "Freedom is Slavery", "Ignorance is Strength". Read and understand 1984 before you try using its terminology incorrectly.

 

[MongGrel]

VICE on HBO Debrief: Surveillance City

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mbm0r1KmIs

 

[master_shake_]

Feel good legislation makes me feel good.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

When that one profession carries a gun and is allowed to use their personal judgment on whether or not to injure or kill someone, potentially without consequence, yes. That's a good thing.



When my job gives me a license to kill at my discretion, then you can put a camera on me.

Thank you for putting that idiot in his place.

 

[RandomWords]

In contrast, the cameras are for the good of the police and our tax dollars just as much as for us, and this time the claim is legitimate.

Not disagreeing with you there... but I can see how it can get out of hand eventually - in 25-100 years... as with most things - like putting microchips in people. It is nice to think of all the ways something helps, but pays to think of potential problems/manipulations that may arise as well.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Not disagreeing with you there... but I can see how it can get out of hand eventually - in 25-100 years... as with most things - like putting microchips in people. It is nice to think of all the ways something helps, but pays to think of potential problems/manipulations that may arise as well.

How would it trend that way in the future? This is trending OPPOSITE of Big Brother. It is trending TOWARDS government accountability to the citizens. I WANT this trend to continue.

Seeing how it also has effectively eliminated POS idiot bad guys from filing false complaints against you guys, this seems to be win-win all the way around. So do you seriously want to argue against win-win?

The ONLY thing police seem to have lost in this case is the ability to use excessive force or to be excessive assholes to people without likelihood of ever suffering consequences of it. Is beating people down THAT PRECIOUS to you that you would ignore the tremendous good this practice would provide for EVERYONE except lawbreakers (LEO or otherwise)?

 

[RandomWords]

How would it trend that way in the future? This is trending OPPOSITE of Big Brother. It is trending TOWARDS government accountability to the citizens. I WANT this trend to continue.

Requiring this - which is a good thing and should be required - can lead to future laws that require other professions to do so - and so forth until it becomes something they are working to get into everyone's life - either way - it is sacrificing a bit of freedom for security. I'm sure M.A.D.D thinks their cause is just too - and it is - but it also takes away a bit of freedom for security.

It's not that I'm debating the issue with you - but it isn't against big brother at all - it will help them more than hinder them or it wouldn't have been passed by government - Cops aren't big brother; they don't make the laws; they are big brother's bitch/slave - it is just another freedom taken away and that isn't just cop's freedom - but the public's as well... but if you can't see that - regardless of it being a good thing - then I guess that is why you are continuing to argue with me.

 

[cliftonite]

At some point you may get your wish. This is a very slippery slope to 24/7 constant moniting.

Businesses could see huge potential out of reviewing workers daily routines. Imagine a new yearly review where they break down every specific thing you do and overanalyze it to their own benefit.

Employee #1232, you are almost at you 13% allotted time for relaxation/break time. This is a reminder that any additional non-producitivy will be deducted from your Paid Time Off account. Are you feeling well? Would you care to speak with a representative of Human Resources?

Employee #432, Your video recordings are being reviewed for a violation notice of workplace sexual harassment policies. You directed a sexual slur to an employee. Review the following recording for an opportunity to challenge the automatic allegations. "Bro, dont be such a pussy! etc. etc. etc."


You can take your damn thought police and take it to UK or Russia. I want to say whatever the hell I want and do whatever the hell I want without constanty wondering if someone is literally watching over my shoulder.



again YOU as in people supporting mandatory personal recordings

My work place has all the tools to do this now. All rest and break areas are separated by doors which require us to use our badges and they have cameras all over the place.

No one really cares.

 

[mizzou]

No one really cares.

I think we should care. Once we lose our freedom to be ourselves, we will never get it back.

 

[RandomWords]

Once we lose our freedom to be ourselves, we will never get it back.

In a way we already lost it - just look at how people are being sued for just speaking things others don't agree with... freedom of speech is slowly going out the window. Yeah - that guy living next door might be a racist bastard that hates some race - but he has the freedom (oh wait, not anymore) to say he hates them - unless you are the acceptable race to say such things - as long as he doesn't go out and kill them or prevent them from joining clubs/team/jobs (that is also race biased)... he has the right to say what he wants (or he should)... it is the same with many offend-able statements (Merry Christmas anyone?).

Wait until your state starts enforcing those silly laws they have - I hear one state you can't have sex in any other position than the missionary - have fun with that. No telling what else they have on the books that limits people's freedoms like that.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Not disagreeing with you there... but I can see how it can get out of hand eventually - in 25-100 years... as with most things - like putting microchips in people. It is nice to think of all the ways something helps, but pays to think of potential problems/manipulations that may arise as well.

I don't disagree with you at all. What I'm saying is that were on that path with or without these body cameras.