California Now Has the Nation’s Best Digital Privacy Law

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PokerGuy

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Californistan does all sorts of insane stuff, but in this one instance, they appear to have gotten it right. I hope other states follow on this one.

http://www.wired.com/2015/10/california-now-nations-best-digital-privacy-law/

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This is long overdue. There is no logical reason why a postcard or letter should enjoy way more privacy rights than an email or text. The laws need to be updated to reflect modern communications and reality. Law enforcement needs to have the tools to do their job, but they can do so with warrants (ie, some form of oversight).
 

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next week.

FBI: California is stopping us from gathering evidence on pedos with their privacy law.

Raging Moron: Won't someone think of the children!
 

woolfe9998

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Anyone have access to the voting record for this law?

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billVotesClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB178

It passed 34-4 in the Senate and 57-13 in the Assembly. If you want to know party breakdown, you'll have to google the names because it doesn't list party. However, with those margins it's obvious that the bill had majority support within both parties.

Edit: I googled the 4 no voters in the state Senate. One D and three R's.
 
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https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billVotesClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160SB178

It passed 34-4 in the Senate and 57-13 in the Assembly. If you want to know party breakdown, you'll have to google the names because it doesn't list party. However, with those margins it's obvious that the bill had majority support within both parties.
Yeah I found the info. I was just curious who voted no. Looks like 3 of the Senate noes were GOP and 8 of the assembly noes were Dems. It would be nice if this behavior bit them at the polls but nobody bothers to dig for this info.
 

PokerGuy

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Pretty much widespread support across both parties. The bill was authored by an R and a D.

Good to see that every once in a looooooong time, politicians can work together to come up with something useful.
 

woolfe9998

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Yeah I found the info. I was just curious who voted no. Looks like 3 of the Senate noes were GOP and 8 of the assembly noes were Dems. It would be nice if this behavior bit them at the polls but nobody bothers to dig for this info.

Given the dems majority in both houses, the proportion of R's is slightly high among the no voters, but it's pretty close to totally bi-partisan.

The privacy issue has a tendency to cut across party lines. There was a lot of opposition to the NSA stuff revealed by Snowden coming from both camps.
 

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Given the dems majority in both houses, the proportion of R's is slightly high among the no voters, but it's pretty close to totally bi-partisan.

The privacy issue has a tendency to cut across party lines. There was a lot of opposition to the NSA stuff revealed by Snowden coming from both camps.

Yeah, but somehow we can't seem to get any traction on this front at the federal level. Once the feds get their talons into stuff, it's very hard to get them back out. Not to mention, "won't someone think of the kids!", "terrorists!" and "pedophiles!". Heck, the feds want google, apple etc to include back doors into their encryption and even less oversight and warrants. Instead of going in the right direction, they are actively pushing in the wrong one. :|
 

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Yeah, but somehow we can't seem to get any traction on this front at the federal level. Once the feds get their talons into stuff, it's very hard to get them back out. Not to mention, "won't someone think of the kids!", "terrorists!" and "pedophiles!". Heck, the feds want google, apple etc to include back doors into their encryption and even less oversight and warrants. Instead of going in the right direction, they are actively pushing in the wrong one. :|

Yeah, and the issue is far more important to address at the federal level. The states don't really have anything like the NSA. So it's nice we get this in CA and now maybe some other states, but the federal level is where it needs addressing the most.

I think since we're starting to see the pro-privacy position crossing party lines, we might ultimately see a piece of federal legislation to address it. But it may not happen that soon.
 
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