California is a very different kind of state

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BoomerD

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Don't forget California's $8,000,000,000+ annual budget for its prison system. That's a great way to spend money. Police & prison guard unions run the state.

null What a waste.

So what do you propose? letting them out of prison to wreak havoc on the streets again? While I agree that many COULD be released, (marijuana laws or similar non-violent crimes) MOST have certaiinly earned the stay in the "cross-bars hotel", and need to be there longer than they will be. It's a lot easier to bitch about the high cost of incarcerating these career criminals than it is to find alternatives...We have WAY too many liberals to ever get more crimes elevated to death penalty status, (violent rape, child molestation, etc.) and keeping a prisoner in Death Row is even more expensive, not to mention all the legal challenges that are automatic...
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Don't forget California's $8,000,000,000+ annual budget for its prison system. That's a great way to spend money. Police & prison guard unions run the state.

null What a waste.

So are you proposing the death penalty for them or set them loose on the streets?
 

tommywishbone

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Originally posted by: Lothar

So are you proposing the death penalty for them or set them loose on the streets?

Well the death penalty of course.:roll: Then repeal all laws in the state of California and disband all police departments.

info Perhaps just a bit of common sense & fiscal self control on the part of goverment would help.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Don't forget California's $8,000,000,000+ annual budget for its prison system. That's a great way to spend money. Police & prison guard unions run the state.

null What a waste.

So are you proposing the death penalty for them or set them loose on the streets?

Why not both? Public executions in the streets maybe?
 

rickn

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I think they put something in the drinking water out there. any place that is drought stricken but finds it necessary to water the vegetation along the freeway aint playing with a full deck.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: rickn
I think they put something in the drinking water out there. any place that is drought stricken but finds it necessary to water the vegetation along the freeway aint playing with a full deck.

When I lived there anytime there was a drought they let all the roadside vegetation die.
 

aka1nas

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: rickn
I think they put something in the drinking water out there. any place that is drought stricken but finds it necessary to water the vegetation along the freeway aint playing with a full deck.

When I lived there anytime there was a drought they let all the roadside vegetation die.

Besides, we steal plenty of water from Arizona and Mexico. :D
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Narmer
The government of California acts as if it's a country unto itself. It has the 6th largest economy in the world. But more importantly it's exercising all it's right as a state in the American union. While I'm sure this trend isn't new, it does seems to be giving a big middle finger to the powers that be in Washington D.C. for not doing what is good for America. More power to the people of California.

California Passes anti-Sudan law

California passes anti-emission law

California working with Great Britain on Climate Change

California sues 6 car companies over emission violations

Yes, because whatever California does, it's "good for America". :roll:
 

Starbuck1975

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California, given the diversity of its population, is also the most racially segmented state I have ever seen...I live south of LA, and the neighborhoods and suburbs, and local city politics, play out like a high school cafeteria...with each racial group secluded to its little corner.

SoCal is also one of the few places I have ever lived where the disparity of wealth is so apparent...you can have a gated community of $1M McMansions just a few blocks away from inner city squalor with 10 Mexicans living in a 2 bedroom house.

The attack ads on television in California are also the most intense and ridiculous I have ever seen.

At the end of the day though, California's politicians are no better or different then any other state...they simply have more money to squander and more people to disappoint.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Narmer
The government of California acts as if it's a country unto itself. It has the 6th largest economy in the world. But more importantly it's exercising all it's right as a state in the American union. While I'm sure this trend isn't new, it does seems to be giving a big middle finger to the powers that be in Washington D.C. for not doing what is good for America. More power to the people of California.

California Passes anti-Sudan law

California passes anti-emission law

California working with Great Britain on Climate Change

California sues 6 car companies over emission violations

Yes, because whatever California does, it's "good for America". :roll:
Actually Californians never even think about the rest of the states unless they are in need of help.

 

bobdelt

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Californians are some of the most miserable people I have met. But I guess when you spend 4 hours a day in traffic you would be miserable too.

Why is Cali sueing the car companies? It's not going to go through, they cant prove fault and global warming as a result of their cars in court. As a result, they will help put the major US car companies in even deeper soup. I hope after ford and gm tank they send Cali's AG to Michigan to see how he f'ed up so many people's lives.

Cali will their anti-emissions law will just move their problem to a different state. Gray Davis already did this with most major corporations by raising employment taxes through the roof, arizona and nevada got the fallout.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: bobdelt
Californians are some of the most miserable people I have met
Funny I lived there and they didn't seem any more miserable than those in New York, Boston and Chicago. In fact during the Winter they seem less miserable than those who live where the weather sucks. They also seem to be healthier, more fit and better looking. Even the Rubes from the Bible Belt who move there tend to be less miserable than the Rubes who live in the Bible Belt who post here about how miserable they think the Californians are.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: bobdelt
Californians are some of the most miserable people I have met
Funny I lived there and they didn't seem any more miserable than those in New York, Boston and Chicago. In fact during the Winter they seem less miserable than those who live where the weather sucks. They also seem to be healthier, more fit and better looking. Even the Rubes from the Bible Belt who move there tend to be less miserable than the Rubes who live in the Bible Belt who post here about how miserable they think the Californians are.

QFT!!
 

VooDooAddict

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
of course the libertarian was excluded from the conversation.

Sometimes they just aren't let into the building because they refuse to carry ID.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Witling
Cappy, Get used to it! Que sera sera! It may be a Spanish speaking problem for you, but here in the Bay Area, Spanish speakers are just one part of the mixture. Incidentally, socialogists have never been able to successfully stop a trend. And the border fence isn't going to do it either. Human beings migrate. Welcome to the migration.

that's french, btw ;)

Err, no. It's Spanish.
 

riznick

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California is pretty wack.

California sues 6 car companies is a frivolous lawsuit. The cars sold by those car manufacturers meet all of california's requirements. It will just waste tax dollars and raise the prices of vehicles.

Instead of frivolous lawsuits we should try to resolve the traffic problems. If less peole are sitting in cars, then there will be less polution. Resolutions: make mass transit easier. Raise gas prices. Give people incentives to live closer to where they work.

By the way, the number 1 cause for climate change would be deforestation. Chopping down trees. Putting cement in their place.

I am all for reducing emissions, and possibly using alternative fuels.

Originally posted by: Narmer
The government of California acts as if it's a country unto itself. It has the 6th largest economy in the world. But more importantly it's exercising all it's right as a state in the American union. While I'm sure this trend isn't new, it does seems to be giving a big middle finger to the powers that be in Washington D.C. for not doing what is good for America. More power to the people of California.

California Passes anti-Sudan law

California passes anti-emission law

California working with Great Britain on Climate Change

California sues 6 car companies over emission violations