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Thebobo

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Oh..bs

Here http://www.reddit.com/r/Good_Cop_Free_Donut/

http://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe

Post one of these everyday here instead of Bad Cops

There has always been assholes

I've met a lot of cops, never a bad one..I only read about them on the internet

Well because they have a seperate section and they also have

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/search?q=bad+cop&sort=new&restrict_sr=on&t=all

There should be very few if any cop assholes.

Unless you meet a lot of cops in police work situations its kind of irrelevet, its not the same as meeting them at a bake sale.
 

Orignal Earl

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Oldgamer

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Bad cop stories sell better. Just look here in P&N, people love a good OMG the world is going to shit story.

I don't think it is as much that it "sells better" as it points to a systemic problem growing worse with time.

I know many here would like to think that myself and others are "cop haters" because we post the news reports about the illegal activities and horrendous things those in "blue" get caught doing, but I don't hate cops at all, far from it. I for one think that the few good ones that are out there are hampered by the "blue wall of silence" that keeps them in fear of speaking out and reporting on their co-workers for illegal activities.

There have been several news reports recently of serious retaliation against these “good upstanding” cops who have tried to bring to light the abuse and illegal behavior. Just look at this report in the New York Times of the FBI doing an undercover investigation of prison / jail abuse and how what 18 Sheriffs officers did when they found out. They went to one of the FBI agent’s home and threatened her. They were caught trying to hide the undercover informant in the prison by falsely giving him different names and hiding him from cell to cell so the FBI couldn't find him. If you have cops bold enough to threaten an FBI investigator and do these sorts of things, then just imagine what they may be doing to those who are within their ranks who are too scared to do or say anything to stop them.

Anyway, I feel these events shed light on the issues and bring forth much needed, continuing conversation and we shouldn't be trying to pressure or bully people into not talking about it. If there are many of these stories popping up weekly then we need to acknowledge that there is a major epidemic in the US regarding the very bad behavior of law enforcement. By bullying folks and trolling the posts they make on these issues, all you do is participate in the acceptance of this type of behavior.
 

JEDIYoda

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I don't think it is as much that it "sells better" as it points to a systemic problem growing worse with time.

I know many here would like to think that myself and others are "cop haters" because we post the news reports about the illegal activities and horrendous things those in "blue" get caught doing, but I don't hate cops at all, far from it.
Exactly!!
 

Engineer

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Here's the question...is it getting worse or are there simply more recording devices (now everywhere) catching what's happening and posted for the world to see and judge (honest question)?
 

Fenixgoon

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Here's the question...is it getting worse or are there simply more recording devices (now everywhere) catching what's happening and posted for the world to see and judge (honest question)?

i'd say a little of the former and mostly the latter.

after all, everyone thinks america is uber violent, yet violent crime has been dropping for 20 years straight based on FBI statistics.
 

Orignal Earl

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By bullying folks and trolling the posts they make on these issues, all you do is participate in the acceptance of this type of behavior.

What do you call it when you bully a bully?
This is a rough crowd here, one day your a Liberal pussy who needs to toughen up some, the next your asshole insulting everyone.
One guy sees a troll another sees a valid point.
You can't make everyone happy, am I right?

I don't think anyone accepts bad behavior with police.
You keep on posting your stories, and I'll just keep doing my thing.
 

Orignal Earl

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Here's the question...is it getting worse or are there simply more recording devices (now everywhere) catching what's happening and posted for the world to see and judge (honest question)?

In JEDIYoda's thread about bad cops in Turkey, he asked "What's changed?"
I replied " Mostly technology"
 

alzan

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Article said that the woman is undergoing psychiatric evaluation; sounds like a good idea for the officer as well.
 

JEDIYoda

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after all, everyone thinks america is uber violent, yet violent crime has been dropping for 20 years straight based on FBI statistics.

We are NOT talking about violent crimes!
We are talking about the Police, the people sworn to serve and protect, committing crimes and denial of civil rights by Police Officers!

There is a huge difference...please to try not to change the subject!!
 
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JEDIYoda

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In JEDIYoda's thread about bad cops in Turkey, he asked "What's changed?"
I replied " Mostly technology"
I agree mostly technology......which finally allows the people to see just how corrupt quite a few cops have always been!
 

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i'd say a little of the former and mostly the latter.

after all, everyone thinks america is uber violent, yet violent crime has been dropping for 20 years straight based on FBI statistics.

We are NOT talking about violent crimes!
We are talking about the Police, the people sworn to serve and protect, committing crimes and denial of civil rights by Police Officers!

There is a huge difference...please to try to change the subject!!

Not to mention the fact that violent crimes perpetrated by the police are not tracked at all, even internally by most police departments, so those added statistics are not added into the national violent crime stats at all.
 

JEDIYoda

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How many is quite a few?
How much of a percentage of cops do you figure are bad?

When it gets to be this rampant......nobody knows. The cops cover up for each other and as such the American public does not know who to trust!

If you think this is not a huge and growing problem perhaps you are living in a different reality!!
 

Howard

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The police chief gave a news conference and is saying she resisted the officer who was trying to save her life and keep her from getting hurt going into traffic. So I guess taking blows to the head are not considered "keeping her from getting hurt"?

The contradiction is astounding with the "rationale" of police these days. If she is in fact mentally ill, there could have been much better ways to handle her. It looked like she was jaywalking more than just trying to go into oncoming traffic. In addition I don't see her resisting, what I see is him grabbing her from behind as she is walking, and her turning around startled and backing away from him. Then he just throws her to the ground and straddles on top of her and just starts UFC fighting and throwing direct closed fists blows to her head.

There is a huge problem with our current police today. I use to think it was officers who lacked proper training, but with a news event coming out several times a week sometimes more than that I think it is in fact a much deeper problem. As I and many others have said it is a "us vs them" mentality, and being trained to view citizens as enemy combatants.

When I was a kid, and that was a real long time ago, I remember local law enforcement walking the beat daily. Some of us kids knew our local officers by name, and they knew most of the neighborhood kids by name. They knew their parents too. The officers in my day took the time to get to know their neighbors and the people whose areas they patrolled.

You really don't see that anymore. Officers are not interested in getting to know the citizens who they see as combatants. This is a huge problem in my opinion because it causes most officers to view the people in a very dehumanized way.
What else could they have said? It looks terrible, but they can't say the officer is just a douchebag.
 

Orignal Earl

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When it gets to be this rampant......nobody knows. The cops cover up for each other and as such the American public does not know who to trust!

If you think this is not a huge and growing problem perhaps you are living in a different reality!!

Your a hard fellow to follow
Now we are back to huge and growing problem. You just finished saying it's always been this bad.
 

Matt1970

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I don't think it is as much that it "sells better" as it points to a systemic problem growing worse with time.

I highly doubt it is getting worse. It's just that damn near everyone has a video camera with them at all times including the cops and it's getting documented a lot more.
 

Fenixgoon

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We are NOT talking about violent crimes!
We are talking about the Police, the people sworn to serve and protect, committing crimes and denial of civil rights by Police Officers!

There is a huge difference...please to try to change the subject!!

i'm not saying that police brutality is going down.

i'm saying that there is the impression that police brutality is rampant, much like the impression that america is violent, due to the speed at which information flows.

whether the numbers actually give credence to that is entirely different.
 

JEDIYoda

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Your a hard fellow to follow
Now we are back to huge and growing problem. You just finished saying it's always been this bad.
Either way it is a huge problem and it appears to be growing!

On the other hand how large has the problem been in the past? Nobody truly knows.
Yet we do know that it could be much worse if it were not for everybody being able to record everything.

I will say this IMO -- it very well could have always been this bad....we will never know!
 

werepossum

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I remember walking home from work once when the sidewalks were super ultra slippery. I kept slipping and falling over until a cop car pulled over to the curb and a cop got out. To my shock, the most savage police brutality baton beatdown of my life didn't happen. He actually helped me up and gave me a ride home. :eek: I felt like I had won the cop lottery that day.
lol Obviously you are white. Maybe even white and attractive. Don't try that as a black great grandmother. (Heard on Headline News this morning she is a 51 year old great grandmother - I'm really hoping at least one of those things is wrong.)

More seriously, the vast majority of people have perfectly acceptable dealings with cops all the time. I'm sure she did something to provoke him, but it is not acceptable for an officer to beat someone, let alone a woman, who is down. She could easily have been cuffed much earlier, whatever she did to piss him off.

"The officer was following proper established procedure"
"The officer claims to have seen a weapon and felt he was in immediate danger"

It'll be one of these two excuses. And nothing will happen.

The police have turned into the enemy of the American people.
Well, in fairness to the officer beating the crap out of anyone who gives you crap may well be "proper established procedure". lol

I suspect he'll be fired. Then after three or four months, he'll go somewhere else to be a cop.

I highly doubt it is getting worse. It's just that damn near everyone has a video camera with them at all times including the cops and it's getting documented a lot more.
Could be some of both, but I can't imagine how many flights of steps they would have claimed she fell down. Or maybe she walked into a door - a revolving door. A really fast revolving door.
 

schmuckley

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What kind of animal beats anybody like that? especially a woman o_O
This is why I'm not fond of UFC.
Fights used to end when the opponent was knocked out.
 

SlickSnake

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Well, at least she isn't barefoot, poor and homeless anymore! See, the uber violent cop on steroids beating her senseless for no reason really did a good thing! Take that all you unnecessary police violence liberals!
 
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