California cop under investigation for ‘playing with dead body’

[pcgeek11]

Maybe you guys relate defiling to equal sex acts, but defiling is anything that degrades something sacred. Making light of a dead man's body by tickling it would rank up there. Its not in the same league as sexually molesting the dead body, but still a very serious act. He seems to have a humane disconnect.

After you are dead the body is just a chunk of meat and bones. It is not sacred, it is no longer a person.

 

[pcgeek11]

I can't believe I am in agreement with Moonbeam or vice versa...

 

[thraashman]

After you are dead the body is just a chunk of meat and bones. It is not sacred, it is no longer a person.

Not sacred, what he's doing is still a bit creepy though.

 

[Subyman]

Good lord guys, its not a "hunk of meat" unless you have no compassion left in your snarky brain. The disconnect some people have with humanity these days is immense.

 

[BoberFett]

Good lord guys, its not a "hunk of meat" unless you have no compassion left in your snarky brain. The disconnect some people have with humanity these days is immense.

Yes actually, it is a hunk of meat. If you're a cop you should probably know better than joke about the fact that you just killed a person, but the body itself is in fact just a hunk of meat.

Why do you view it as anything more?

 

[Moonbeam]

Yes actually, it is a hunk of meat. If you're a cop you should probably know better than joke about the fact that you just killed a person, but the body itself is in fact just a hunk of meat.

Why do you view it as anything more?

You are part way there. The body is just a hunk of meat is one valid frame of reference depending on the context and sacred when the feelings of the living who loved the person now dead are considered. We know the cop neither shot the body nor was related to it, and neither was the female cop, so we have to know what the real intent of the male cop was. Perhaps he had already begun to suspect his trainee was a bit overly sensitive to the sight of death, a think that can cause police lots of stress since they have to deal with it, and maybe he was trying to desensitize her a bit. On the other hand, maybe he was inhumanly insensitive over into the world of creepy. We can all have opinions, but we can't know for sure. But I can see no reason to rule out the possibility that what the cop cared about was his fellow officer in which case, to my mind, the sacredness of the body becomes secondary. Had he done this in front of a grieving mother, we would have a better idea the cop was off.

 

[Moonbeam]

I can't believe I am in agreement with Moonbeam or vice versa...

We would be in agreement only if you are of the opinion that in most situations due to the inability of most people to separate their feelings for a loved one from the dead body itself, the same respect is ordinarily properly due to the dead as if they were living. By 'ordinarily' I mean our US cultural context. I don't mean ordinary as exists where poverty, war, famine, plague, etc have reduced people to a hopeless state. In such cases most don't have the energy to honor anything.

 

[Subyman]

Yes actually, it is a hunk of meat. If you're a cop you should probably know better than joke about the fact that you just killed a person, but the body itself is in fact just a hunk of meat.

Why do you view it as anything more?

Because the body represents the person. The person lived a life, influenced people, and is loved by others. You should respect the life someone lived. We are going back to man becoming sentient here. With self awareness comes empathy for others and a respect of another's life and the life they lived. :thumbsup:

 

[BoberFett]

Because the body represents the person. The person lived a life, influenced people, and is loved by others. You should respect the life someone lived. We are going back to man becoming sentient here. With self awareness comes empathy for others and a respect of another's life and the life they lived. :thumbsup:

So why would you defile that body by throwing it in a box and burying it??? What kind of sick pervert are you???

 

[Subyman]

So why would you defile that body by throwing it in a box and burying it??? What kind of sick pervert are you???

 

[JSt0rm]

He loves to play devils advocate eh?

 

[Subyman]

He loves to play devils advocate eh?

I think he just likes the noise his keyboard makes

 

[BoberFett]

He loves to play devils advocate eh?

I do indeed.

 

[Moonbeam]

He loves to play devils advocate eh?

What in one circumstance looks like respect can from another perspective look absurd. Personally, I believe the Tibetans have the best system. Bodies are carried up the mountains to be fed to the vultures. What could be more sacred than to be turned into vulture shit that rains down as fertilizer for all the life of ones land. The problem, of course with that in our culture would be that the pesticides in our bodies would probably cause vultures to go extinct and we would need more vultures not less.

I just don't see why this problem is so hard to grasp. A body is sacred when it can afford to be, and not when whatever notion of sacred you have if extended, causes harm to the living. The cost of respect can't be such that it does damage to the living. People are willing to make great sacrifices to honor the dead but somewhere there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.

 

[Subyman]

What in one circumstance looks like respect can from another perspective look absurd. Personally, I believe the Tibetans have the best system. Bodies are carried up the mountains to be fed to the vultures. What could be more sacred than to be turned into vulture shit that rains down as fertilizer for all the life of ones land. The problem, of course with that in our culture would be that the pesticides in our bodies would probably cause vultures to go extinct and we would need more vultures not less.

I just don't see why this problem is so hard to grasp. A body is sacred when it can afford to be, and not when whatever notion of sacred you have if extended, causes harm to the living. The cost of respect can't be such that it does damage to the living. People are willing to make great sacrifices to honor the dead but somewhere there is a line that shouldn't be crossed.

That line wasn't crossed at this crime scene. The cop is a creep because he did such an act in our society.

 

[Moonbeam]

That line wasn't crossed at this crime scene. The cop is a creep because he did such an act in our society.

How do you know?