California bans a bunch of stuff. Cuz they like to ban things under the assumption life will somehow get better.

[shortylickens]

Everything Gavin Newsom Just Signed Recently Into Law in California

The new laws include a requirement for gender-neutral toy sections in retail stores and a ban on removing condoms during sex without consent.

www.newsweek.com

For those of you who dont know: A well built gasoline lawnmower will survive decades. As will a gasoline leaf blower.
Also, batteries are not a magic cure to pollution. They make pollution when they are being constructed and when they get thrown in a landfill. And most people throw them in landfills rather than search around for a fucking battery recycling center.

Also, as liberal as parents are today I'm sure they have no trouble finding gender-neutral toys. I really dont know if forcing California stores to keep such toys in stock is demanding of a law.

 

[feralkid]

ROWIE!

 

[K1052]

I guess that if gas leaf blowers are made illegal I won't get to enjoy them waking up the neighborhood every morning at 6 or 7 when yard crews start. What a shame.

 

[shortylickens]

I guess that if gas leaf blowers are made illegal I won't get to enjoy them waking up the neighborhood every morning at 6 or 7 when yard crews start. What a shame.

They're not illegal. Read the article.
They banned new ones, starting in 2024.
And the industrial grade electric blowers are just as noisy.
And they didnt ban them cuz of the noise, they banned them cuz California thinks it will slow down atmosphere pollution.

 

[K1052]

They're not illegal. Read the article.
They banned new ones, starting in 2024.

Victory by attrition.

 

[Torn Mind]

Just push mowers or do tractors count?

 

[shortylickens]

Just push mowers or do tractors count?

I didnt actually see those mentioned in the article. I would bet "no" because stuff like this is always aimed on non-professional, consumer grade products.

 

[Torn Mind]

Victory by attrition.

You'll just hear the battery powered instead. After all towns and HOAs hire crews to keep the "aesthetic of the community".

 

[Red Squirrel]

The battery manufacturing is a 1 time thing so that impact is way less than running a gas mower for a life time. That said I think it's ridiculous to actually ban them. Just make the electric ones cheaper and let the market skew people towards the greener option when it comes time to buy new.

I kind of want to buy an electric mower but my gas one works fine so it's a bit hard to justify. I might next year though, as my parents don't have a mower anymore and they don't have someone mowing their lawn anymore so I keep needing to bring mine. Might just give them my gas one.

 

[K1052]

You'll just hear the battery powered instead. After all towns and HOAs hire crews to keep the "aesthetic of the community".

A couple crews have them and they're a LOT quieter.

 

[Torn Mind]

The battery manufacturing is a 1 time thing so that impact is way less than running a gas mower for a life time. That said I think it's ridiculous to actually ban them. Just make the electric ones cheaper and let the market skew people towards the greener option when it comes time to buy new.

I kind of want to buy an electric mower but my gas one works fine so it's a bit hard to justify. I might next year though, as my parents don't have a mower anymore and they don't have someone mowing their lawn anymore so I keep needing to bring mine. Might just give them my gas one.

There's more than one form of pollution. Many materials create localized pollution despite not being logged by the carbon measure.
Battery mowers will have some points of obsolescence still. People are generally not handy and brick appliances that stop working.

People brick gas mowers far too soon because they don't drain the gas when put into storage.

I prefer electric for small suburban residential and urban yards due to the simplicity of starting them up and lighter weight on grades. But if the yard is larger, then self propel gas is necessary.

 

[feralkid]

Mowers are only a symptom.

The problem is grass lawns.

Call for ban.

 

[K1052]

Mowers are the symptom.

The problem is grass lawns.

Call for ban.

We eliminated our grass. Never been happier.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Mowers are only a symptom.

The problem is grass lawns.

Call for ban.

Grass is mostly okay, as long as it's not cut too often and not monoculture.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Also, as liberal as parents are today I'm sure they have no trouble finding gender-neutral toys. I really dont know if forcing California stores to keep such toys in stock is demanding of a law.

Barbie, Ken, and, ... "Pat"? (Remember "It's Pat" from SNL?)

Cars, dollhouses, and ... Marbles?

What makes a "gender-neutral" toy? Jump-rope? Jax? Playing cards? (Oh no, they'll have to make new face cards, "King", "Queen", "Jack", and "Other". Ready for a 56-card deck?)

Edit: And just in case this thread gets pushed to P&N, here's proof that it was originally posted in OT:

 

[Torn Mind]

A lot of California is desert , and where there is population, it's so dense that a electric would suffice anyway.

California - New World Encyclopedia

www.newworldencyclopedia.org

 

[MrSquished]

On the flip side, first state to legalize aka unban the ganja

 

[brianmanahan]

i thought this was gus chiggins for a second

 

[gorcorps]

Everything Gavin Newsom Just Signed Recently Into Law in California

The new laws include a requirement for gender-neutral toy sections in retail stores and a ban on removing condoms during sex without consent.

www.newsweek.com

For those of you who dont know: A well built gasoline lawnmower will survive decades. As will a gasoline leaf blower.
Also, batteries are not a magic cure to pollution. They make pollution when they are being constructed and when they get thrown in a landfill. And most people throw them in landfills rather than search around for a fucking battery recycling center.

Also, as liberal as parents are today I'm sure they have no trouble finding gender-neutral toys. I really dont know if forcing California stores to keep such toys in stock is demanding of a law.

To add to this, I have a number of cordless tool batteries I have to replace because they stop holding a charge after 3-5 years in my experience. I wonder if the hardware stores take them. I know best buy would take old laptop batteries.

 

[shortylickens]

To add to this, I have a number of cordless tool batteries I have to replace because they stop holding a charge after 3-5 years in my experience. I wonder if the hardware stores take them. I know best buy would take old laptop batteries.

For some reason my Black & Decker batteries have survived a good 10 years, I think longer. Which is weird cuz so many people complain about their quality.

 

[Torn Mind]

To add to this, I have a number of cordless tool batteries I have to replace because they stop holding a charge after 3-5 years in my experience. I wonder if the hardware stores take them. I know best buy would take old laptop batteries.

Are they Ni-Cd or lithium ion?

You probably can recycle them though.

Battery Disposal Guide for Households - Where to Safely Recycle Used Batteries

What to do with all those old batteries around your home! Specific information to help you recycle and dispose of them in an environmentally sound manner!

www.ehso.com

 

[BoomerD]

The battery manufacturing is a 1 time thing so that impact is way less than running a gas mower for a life time. That said I think it's ridiculous to actually ban them. Just make the electric ones cheaper and let the market skew people towards the greener option when it comes time to buy new.

I kind of want to buy an electric mower but my gas one works fine so it's a bit hard to justify. I might next year though, as my parents don't have a mower anymore and they don't have someone mowing their lawn anymore so I keep needing to bring mine. Might just give them my gas one.

Have you ever owned battery powered tools? The batteries might last a few years...or not, but they're not forever.

When we lived in CA, you could "trade in" any gasoline mower + (IIRC) $200 and get a brand new electric push mower.
They ran that deal a couple of times per year...and never had a problem selling out...then, you'd see the "BNIB Electric Mower" pop up on Craigslist in a week.

 

[snoopy7548]

Something like that probably wouldn't work here in the Northeast - gas-powered snowblowers are a must.

I wish they would ban gas leaf blowers since they're so freaking annoying. Yesterday, one neighbor was using theirs for over two hours (our lot sizes are around 8,000 sq. ft.) - he would mow the lawn, use the leaf blower, mow again, use the leaf blower, etc. I don't understand why he didn't just bag the clippings, since very little leaves have fallen so far. Just a constant, "brrrrrr.... brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... brr... brrrrrr.... brrrrrrrrrrrrr... brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr".

 

[K1052]

Something like that probably wouldn't work here in the Northeast - gas-powered snowblowers are a must.

I wish they would ban gas leaf blowers since they're so freaking annoying. Yesterday, one neighbor was using theirs for over two hours (our lot sizes are around 8,000 sq. ft.) - he would mow the lawn, use the leaf blower, mow again, use the leaf blower, etc. I don't understand why he didn't just bag the clippings, since very little leaves have fallen so far. Just a constant, "brrrrrr.... brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... brr... brrrrrr.... brrrrrrrrrrrrr... brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr".

Jesus Christ this would drive me insane.

 

[olds]

One of the many reason why I moved out of that cesspool.