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Calibrate your monitor, kid. It's good for yas.

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VIAN

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For the best gaming and/or web and pr0n(not too sure about this one) viewing experience, you should calibrate your monitor. Make sure you have installed your monitor drivers and you are ready calibrate in the lighting conditions that you are going to be viewing whatever it is you are viewing.

Using your monitor OSD adjust your color temperature to 6500. And adjust the brightness and contrast using this: http://epaperpress.com/monitorcal/, but follow the website navigation instructions in the next sentence so that you get and proper explaination of how to use the pictures. On the left of this webpage, there should be a black bar that has an explorer type layout to it with the folder title of Contents. Click on the 'Black Point' link to adjust brightness and then click on the 'White Point' link to adjust contrast.

Then go to your graphics driver control panel under color correction and adjust the gamma using this: http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Amphibious/Gamma_Calibration.png, but following the directions in the next sentence. Adjust the gamma setting until the picture looks uniformly gray from a distance. If it doesn't look uniformly gray at any setting, it's because your monitor isn't high quality, just get it as close to uniformly gray as possible.

There will also be an options somewhere in the color correction settings that says something like, "Apply color changes to:" and then it gives you a list of Desktop, Overlay and All. Choose All.

You will find that ATI has more freedom with their gamma gradients. Sucks for us Nv folk. Ah, well, at least it's not bad.
 
Even though the colors doesn't match on my monitor it gets too bright if they do. When playing games though I need to push tha gamma slider quite a lot.
 
Why set the color to 6500?
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Because, 6500 is follows sRGB standard. And that's what most people use when they make games and websites. Some even use 5000. But 6500 is the general color to be used. So if you want to view the color as the developer intended, you should calibrate to sRGB standard which is 6500. 6500 is also the white point of a sunny day. I've read somewhere that monitors start out at 9300 when you buy them, to give ignorant people the illusion that the monitor has more brightness, but it is infact wrong to market it that way.

Even though the colors doesn't match on my monitor it gets too bright if they do. When playing games though I need to push tha gamma slider quite a lot.
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Can you be a bit more specific?
 
Is this for CRT monitors? I just got an IBM C220p, but it is still in the box. I'll try to calibrate it by referencing your instructions if it works with CRT.
 
Yeah, I've gone through all this stuff before but I'm not that satisfied with the end result. When I start a game (using its default gamma), I can hardly see a thing and am forced to deviate from my nice and calibrated settings. Either way, my monitor's not way off. Anyone else surprised about the lack of calibration guides and utilities? They seem to be hidden deep in monitor CDs. And I could only find about two calibration guides on the net. Does this work with LCDs? The reason I ask this is because, when I ran one of the ATI DirectX demos, there's a button called calibration. When I clicked it, it showed the typical red, green, and blue interlaced lines, and a slider below. Then it said 'this will not work with LCDs'. Don't know?
 
Yeah, I've gone through all this stuff before but I'm not that satisfied with the end result. When I start a game (using its default gamma), I can hardly see a thing and am forced to deviate from my nice and calibrated settings.
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Lack of contrast, standard for LCDs. You can not calibrate them properly, they don't offer the contrast level to be able to pull off properly displayed images.
 
6500 looks really funny to me, seems to give everything a reddish tint. Maybe I'm just not used to it. I have it set to 8500 and it looks good.

Speaking of monitor adjustments, I can't seem to access both the focus controls on a Mitsubishi 2070SB (same thing as NEC FP2141SB). How exactly is the screwdriver supposed to be inserted into the holes? If I put the screwdriver through the top hole and align it perfectly straight, it seems to go in the whole way but I can't adjust anything at the end; turning the screwdriver doesn't do anything. For the bottom hole, I can't make the screwdriver go in the whole way (I groped around quite a bit and can't seem to find any corresponding opening inside) unless I insert it at an upward angle, which causes it to go to the top screw and allows me to adjust that without any problems.

The center looks great but the corners are quite blurry, so I would really like to play around with the other focus control, wherever it is in there. They really should have made this adjustable from the OSD, as it makes a world of difference with this monitor.
 
Originally posted by: VIAN
Why set the color to 6500?
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Because, 6500 is follows sRGB standard. And that's what most people use when they make games and websites. Some even use 5000. But 6500 is the general color to be used. So if you want to view the color as the developer intended, you should calibrate to sRGB standard which is 6500. 6500 is also the white point of a sunny day. I've read somewhere that monitors start out at 9300 when you buy them, to give ignorant people the illusion that the monitor has more brightness, but it is infact wrong to market it that way.

Even though the colors doesn't match on my monitor it gets too bright if they do. When playing games though I need to push tha gamma slider quite a lot.
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Can you be a bit more specific?
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The gray square surrounded by the white lines is a bit too dark, but it strains my eyes if I increase the gamma so it fits in colors. When I play games (FPS) I need to increase the gamma to 1.9 (from 1) and brightness to +15%. Otherwise it's impossible to see anyone hiding in anything that just resembles shadows. (I use Powerstrip to modify my settings)

It's on an Iiyama Visionmaster pro454 19" Diamondtron.
 
6500K is also the level which most closely replicates natural light reflection. That's why movies, games and the like use that as standard.

For more than you'd ever want to know about light sourcing, go to avsforum.com and search for 6500k...
 
Is this for CRT monitors? I just got an IBM C220p, but it is still in the box. I'll try to calibrate it by referencing your instructions if it works with CRT.
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This works for CRTs & LCDs.

I've been using Nokia monitor test for years now and I still haven't found better freeware program.
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I'll try it. I've tried a few with weird names, but they just didn't work properly. Maybe this one will kick ass.

Does this work with LCDs? The reason I ask this is because, when I ran one of the ATI DirectX demos, there's a button called calibration. When I clicked it, it showed the typical red, green, and blue interlaced lines, and a slider below. Then it said 'this will not work with LCDs'. Don't know?
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It does work for LCDs. I think the sliders you mention are to calibrate color for the specific monitor. If you have the monitor drivers installed, then you shouldn't need to do this. All you need to do is adjust gamma, contrast and brightness.

6500 looks really funny to me, seems to give everything a reddish tint. Maybe I'm just not used to it. I have it set to 8500 and it looks good.
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It will look a bit funny at first, but you get used to it and it actually makes things better IMO.

The gray square surrounded by the white lines is a bit too dark, but it strains my eyes if I increase the gamma so it fits in colors. When I play games (FPS) I need to increase the gamma to 1.9 (from 1) and brightness to +15%. Otherwise it's impossible to see anyone hiding in anything that just resembles shadows. (I use Powerstrip to modify my settings)
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It seems weird what you are describing. If you adjust the brightness, the purpose is to get the blackest black on your monitor without killing all the shades. Opposite for the Contrast adjustment. And the Gamma picture will adjust you gamma to 2.2 which is the sRGB standard. You should be having any problems at all, unless you turn up the brightness too much in order to cheat in games - not an accusation. It may be that powerstrip is messing with the settings. Default Powerstrip and try to use the regular graphics driver control panel. Just a suggestion.

6500K is also the level which most closely replicates natural light reflection. That's why movies, games and the like use that as standard.
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All movie settings and NSTC television standards use 6500 white point. It gives colors a more natural appearance.
 
Originally posted by: VIAN
It seems weird what you are describing. If you adjust the brightness, the purpose is to get the blackest black on your monitor without killing all the shades. Opposite for the Contrast adjustment. And the Gamma picture will adjust you gamma to 2.2 which is the sRGB standard. You should be having any problems at all, unless you turn up the brightness too much in order to cheat in games - not an accusation. It may be that powerstrip is messing with the settings. Default Powerstrip and try to use the regular graphics driver control panel. Just a suggestion.
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I'll think I'll stick with my settings it seems to work for me. It's actually a little too dark, the black point 10 is very close to black, but it seems to stress my eyes less when reading ATF. But when playing games I need to increase the brightness and gamma to compensate for my normal "too dark" setting 🙂
 
9300 has a much more paper white. I'd prefer that over the yellowness that apparently designers intended, lol.

Why does everyone care so much about viewing things the way the developers did? It's how it looks to you that's important, not how they *think* it should look to you.
 
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Yeah, I've gone through all this stuff before but I'm not that satisfied with the end result. When I start a game (using its default gamma), I can hardly see a thing and am forced to deviate from my nice and calibrated settings.
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Lack of contrast, standard for LCDs. You can not calibrate them properly, they don't offer the contrast level to be able to pull off properly displayed images.
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Mine's a 600:1 ratio. Will a 1500:1 ratio offer a great improvement? Looking forward to SEDs that reportedly have a 100,000:1 contrast ratio.

This happened when I had a CRT too though. It could be that the person who made the game textures didn't calibrate their monitor? A couple of people mention this, and they have CRTs as well. I guess I'll just raise my gamma in-game.
 
Thanks for the links! I DL'd the wiziwyg software and have to say it is one of the best ways I have seen to set up a monitor. I've always used the Nokia monitor test program in the past and it has worked well for me. I like the wizard in the wiziwyg program which makes creating and saving profiles very easy. I used it to Set up my new LCD to virtual perfection.
 
Mine's a 600:1 ratio. Will a 1500:1 ratio offer a great improvement? Looking forward to SEDs that reportedly have a 100,000:1 contrast ratio.

This happened when I had a CRT too though. It could be that the person who made the game textures didn't calibrate their monitor? A couple of people mention this, and they have CRTs as well. I guess I'll just raise my gamma in-game.
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1500:1 would certainly offer a huge advantage in contrast. Depending on the model certain low caliber CRTs couldn't even hit that. Be aware that most LCDs can't actually hit their rated specs. Scroll down on this page and you'll see some contrast ratio numbers- the best LCD hits just under 1,100 and they also throw in a couple CRTs on the chart below it the best of which hits over 9,000. A CRT won't take care of all of the issues with games, although they are much better then LCDs, HDR is there to help out with that.
 
Originally posted by: cbehnken
9300 has a much more paper white. I'd prefer that over the yellowness that apparently designers intended, lol.
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Indeed. I did what it said in this thread, used it for about an hour, then went back to my old settings, and WOW did I appreciate that bright white in 9300.
 
Thanks for the links! I DL'd the wiziwyg software and have to say it is one of the best ways I have seen to set up a monitor. I've always used the Nokia monitor test program in the past and it has worked well for me. I like the wizard in the wiziwyg program which makes creating and saving profiles very easy. I used it to Set up my new LCD to virtual perfection.
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Well, that wasn't what I linked the sites for but... Anyway, I had to find an alternate method because, although wiziwyg is cool, it didn't work properly on my comp.

The Nokia monitor test thing is kinda nice, but doesn't lack a gamma calibration thing.

9300 has a much more paper white. I'd prefer that over the yellowness that apparently designers intended, lol.
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It depends on the paper. I can't stand 9300 anymore, you are just used to it. And I've gone tried to go back to it as it seemed that 9300 had more contrast, but the colors looked so lifeless that I kept at the 6500.
 
Hey I have a question...what exactly does "input level" do on a crt monitor? I have a choice of 0.7V and 1.0V...the higher voltage seems to make my monitor a little darker.
 
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