Cable vs. DSL

imported_Pablo

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Cable vs. DSL

I'm looking to get high speed access and i know that both are available in my area.

What are the cost differences with each? I know that the monthly fees are similar but equipment costs as well.

I'm looking at Charter Pipeline for Cable and BellSouth for DSL... Any advice?
 

Coherence

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In my experience, DSL is more stable (speeds are more consistent) and reliable (doesn't go down as much) than cablemodem. Some people also argue that DSL is more secure, but regardless of which you choose, I'd get a router anyway for the hardware NAT firewall, even if you don't have multiple computers.

Setup of DSL can be a bit more complicated than cablemodem, though, depending on your distance from your phone company's central office (C.O.). If you are further out, you'll need a "splittered connection", which requires special wiring in your home (similar to having a jack installed or rewired). If you are relatively close to the C.O., you'll use filters on your jacks, which won't require special wiring.

Cablemodem is a bit more straightforward. At most, you just need a cable outlet in the desired room.

Monthly fees will be about the same for each, based on similar speeds, but DSL tends to cost a little more to set up. Personally, I think it's worth it to pay the extra setup costs for the extra stability. ;) You don't notice speed drops during peak times as much as you would on cable, since with DSL you have a dedicated connection between your home and the DSLAM in the C.O., so your speed to the DSLAM is guaranteed. And DSL doesn't go down as much.

With cable, on the other hand, you share the total bandwidth with your neighbors, which means the more people on your block that turn on their PCs, the slower your connection will get. Basically, you are on a form of LAN with your neighbors; you can even see all your neighbors' PCs (connected to the same local cable node) in Windows Network Neighborhood, hence the lower security of cable (since if you can see them, they can see you, so be sure to turn file/printer sharing off!).

That means on cable you'll be paying for a top speed, but there's only so much bandwidth available on the LAN, so it will slow down. On top of that, cablemodem service seems to go out whenever they have a tech in the area doing just about anything. After all, I think we can all agree that our cable TV goes out much more often than our phones do (DSL being phone-line based).

So, if you don't mind the additional setup costs of DSL, technologically speaking, I think DSL is the better choice. Unless your cable company gives you a very good deal, of course. ;)
 

thirtythree

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I've never heard of Charter Pipeline so I would go with the DSL .. I'm currently stuck with a pretty crappy DSL company because nothing else is available. It is down quite a bit and once we called tech support and someone answered the phone at home. You could hear their kids playing in the background :p
 

hmsrolst

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It might depend in part how long service has been available for each in your area. I've never had cable since DSL (Verizon) became available first. For the first 6 months it was a pain--often down and lousy tech support. But after that it has been 99.99% up, and as others have said, the speed is always the same.
 

Insidious

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Wow, there's a lot of DSL customers in this area that wish they were having your DSL experience.

I assume you are talking about ADSL and am really confused about the mentions of constant speed. by definition, ADSL speed varies with network loading. (were it SDSL you were talking about I would agree, but of course that costs >$100.00 per month.)

So I guess the moral is where you live and who your ISP is. In Indianapolis I can say with utter confidence that SBC Ameritech is quirky (at best), unreliable and uses Enternet 300 software which is second only to plague in magnitude of curse to mankind.

I have NO love for ComCrap Cable, but I do have to admit that my 1+ Mbps rate is consistant (it will go faster, but I have not seen it slower). Another downside to ComCrap cable is that they cap the upload rate, so serving is a futile effort. (Of course, you can pay twice as much for ComCrap Pro and get 3 Mbps down and 327Kbps up, but that price is nonsense.)
 

billytronix

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I'd say it depends where you live and if the cable is upgraded to two way instead of dial up uploads and cable downloads. DSL is available in my area but is pricier for similar speeds. The shared bandwidth - lower performance issue was true a few years back, but I have not had any issues in the last couple years and my cable provider has upgraded their system to truw twoway. I generally run about 300~400 Kps on the first test listed and about 2.5~3.0 Mbps. Cost is about $40/month for both plus your ISP. Good luck

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imported_Pablo

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Good info.... I think i'm leaning towards DSL unless research proves it's going to be really expensive up front... we'll see...
 

loafbred

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I'm in the metro-Atlanta area, and have the same choices - and have tried both. I started with Charter cable because it was the only broadband available at the time. It was 500/256, and usually not very good, but it was only $35 a month. I game online a lot, and as often as not, it was useless for gaming. Bellsouth ADSL has been VERY good. Its max is 1500/256 here, and I get a consistent 1200/211. Many game servers give me consistent 45-60 ping during play. Expect to pay $45-$50 a month for it.
 

Markfw

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I am in Oregon. I had ADSL about 4-5 years ago for about 3-4 years (lost track), and just switched to cable. Back then everyone had to have special wiring, and the cost was $200 to install. But for those years it was down 3 hours in the whole time, and speed was constant, 85k/sec to a good site. (my company paid for the install and the service since I used it work work a lot). Now I have cable, and it is faster(200-400k/sec), still reliable, and cheaper than DSL($31 vs $49). I think the key issues here all revolve around that is best IN YOUR AREA, and what is CHEAPEST IN YOUR AREA, as I don't think either is better in general from what I have read in these responses. Ask local people and friends, they can tell you best.
 

imported_Pablo

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That's good to know.... I'm glad i found someone using the same carriers.... Think i'm going with DSL....
 

BG4533

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I have had great luck with cable so far. It seems DSL has a lot more potential though. I think DSL will most likely win out over cable eventually.
 

Snuffaluffaguss

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I had sbc dsl for a year, after getting weird unexplainable connection problems they offered little assitance, they there is no problem, but our connection was constantly dropping. My roomate and I decided to get roadrunner cable for a month and see how it is, and we have been with them ever since. Our speeds are three times as fast and they don't get slower during peak times its always about 2000/386, it might get as slow as 1900/386 during peak times. My advice, see if either service has no monthly contract then try it for a month, if your happy don't mess with it, if not goto the other service, but the year long contracts suck.
 

Muadib

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I have dsl now, but I miss my cable.:(
768 KB/s vs. 2-6 MB/s , nuff said.
 

tbates757

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There really isn't an answer to this, it's too broad of a question. Either CAN be better, it just depends on your area and the ISP's service plans. In Las Vegas, Cox Cable happens to be the best solution, but when I lived in Santa Monica Verizon DSL was the best solution because the cable was very congested. It really depends on your situation.
 

Dean

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Dsl is usually better for gaming and Cable is usually better for downloading. It all depends on you ISP on how well they maintain their network. I'm lucky and have a cable provider who constantly update their system with the increasing demand.

Here is a speed test i did from the speakeasy speed test 2002-12-03 09:55:36 EST: 4019 / 902
Your download speed : 4019243 bps, or 4019 kbps.
A 490.6 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 902255 bps, or 902 kbps.
Seems like broadband .. above the 1mbit barrier!
 

kgraeme

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I have Charter and it's generally pretty good. I've noticed though that their service and speeds vary dramatically depending on your area. Here, I get right around the advertised speeds. 1500/128. In other areas that don't seem to have updated their network, they are still running a bit free and loose with speeds all over the map. I've seen people getting nearly 5Mbps on a 1.5 plan.

Charter used to use @Home, but after the crumbling of @Home last year they switched over to Pipeline which is a division of EarthLink. At the same time, they introduced speed capped plans. The highest priced home plan is 1.5Mbps download. Now that I have to pay extra for better bandwidth, I keep logs of my transfer rates and if they don't meet what I'm paying for I call them and get a refund for the difference. They've been generally ameniable to doing it.

Spend some time at DSL Reports reading the user ratings.

I've never heard of Charter Pipeline so I would go with the DSL

Ah, you haven't heard of them so you'd go with someone else? Great logic. Charter only has an internet subscriber base of 1,069,500 which puts them higher than Cox which only has half that and it puts them in the same league as SBC and Verizon which offer nationwide DSL service. AT&T WorldNet is at 1.5 million subscribers.