CA. Gov. Davis may back Internet tax plan

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SACRAMENTO - After years of adamantly rejecting an Internet tax plan that he said would slow the growth of the dot-com economy, Gov. Gray Davis is now willing to consider a proposal that would force many online companies in California to charge state sales tax.

In a significant shift, a Davis spokeswoman said Wednesday the governor is willing to consider an Internet sales tax -- the first of its kind in the nation -- to help fill what he estimates is a $34.6 billion budget shortfall over 18 months.

Key lawmakers are pushing forward with a plan to require companies that do business online and have a retail outlet in California, such as Toys R Us and Barnes & Noble, to collect sales taxes. It also would apply to catalog sales.

``California's fiscal climate has changed; the dot-com economy has changed,'' Davis' spokeswoman Hilary McLean said. ``While he didn't favor it in the past, he is willing to review it in the bigger context.''

State Sen. Dede Alpert, a San Diego Democrat, has breathed new life into an earlier proposal that was endorsed by the Legislature but vetoed by Davis in 2000. The bill would require any company with a physical presence -- retail store or warehouse -- in California to charge sales tax on purchases made online by California customers. But it excludes businesses that do business only online or customers from another state.

more at http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/5064223.htm
 

notfred

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Um... they already do that. I've always paid taxes when buying from within the state, online or not.
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: notfred
Um... they already do that. I've always paid taxes when buying from within the state, online or not.

Maybe he thinks the tax isn't enough and wants to tax it even more.....man this guy is litereally tax crazy. I can't believe they haven't ousted him as governor yet. Highest taxes in the nation almost and he wants more ...MORRRREEE!!!

Also either that or he doesn't even known CA taxes the internet.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: notfred
Um... they already do that. I've always paid taxes when buying from within the state, online or not.

I believe it's saying that you would pay the tax regardless of whether you lived in the state or not.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: notfred
Um... they already do that. I've always paid taxes when buying from within the state, online or not.

I believe it's saying that you would pay the tax regardless of whether you lived in the state or not.

Ah, ok. In that case, doesn't affect me, but I don't think you should have to pay state sales tax to a different state.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: notfred
Um... they already do that. I've always paid taxes when buying from within the state, online or not.

Maybe he thinks the tax isn't enough and wants to tax it even more.....man this guy is litereally tax crazy. I can't believe they haven't ousted him as governor yet.
Ummmm.....it's California....further explanation is not needed.

 

zoiks

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I heard that they are trying to increase the sales tax to 9.5 percent in the bay area. Someone needs to put these people in their place.
 

Miramonti

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As long as so many states budgets are underwater, as well as the fed budget, its just a matter of time till this passes. Lots of states would love something like this.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: jjsole
As long as so many states budgets are underwater, as well as the fed budget, its just a matter of time till this passes. Lots of states would love something like this.
And watch them kill, or at least do great damage to, the Internet economy. When will politicians, especially Democrats, learn that higher taxes and not the answer. You cannot tax a town, state, or nation into prosperity.

 

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He's just trying to get us to pay for HIS screwups..

CA made bank in revenues from dot.com money, so in 1998 instead of investing or sving a surplus, they grow the government %37.

Now dot.com is busted, he screwed the electrical problem forcing us to pay WAY too much.. so CA is "short" on funds to pay for his %37 increase.

So tax everything, triple the car tax too..

Boob...

 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Damage
He's just trying to get us to pay for HIS screwups..

CA made bank in revenues from dot.com money, so in 1998 instead of investing or sving a surplus, they grow the government %37.

Now dot.com is busted, he screwed the electrical problem forcing us to pay WAY too much.. so CA is "short" on funds to pay for his %37 increase.

So tax everything, triple the car tax too..

Boob...

So why did you reelect him?
 

Damage

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
So why did you reelect him?


That's just the thing, I didn't..

I blame every person in CA that did vote for him for this problem.. PERSONALY.. If you voted for Davis, you can't complain.. It's your fault!:|
 

Damage

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Originally posted by: gwlam12
wasn't old enough to vote :D

Bastard! ;)

Voted absentee.. On my Honeymoon that day.. (In Virginia City actually! Great place.. Tombstone is better though..)
 

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That would suck, most of my internet transactions involve online stores in CA.
Since Californians are already paying tax if they buy stuffs in California, online or not, this shouldn't hurt them too much.
 

optoman

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If the tax was on anyone ordering outside of California, then it would kill alot of companies. I would almost never order from a CA company again. What's the point? If I am going to pay 8% or what ever the CA tax is, then why not just buy it here at home were the tax is 5% or go to NH were its 0.

This would also be double taxation because MA law requires for us to pay a tax on anything over $175 that was bought out of state. Not that anyone actually does this.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Damage
Originally posted by: SuperTool
So why did you reelect him?


That's just the thing, I didn't..

I blame every person in CA that did vote for him for this problem.. PERSONALY.. If you voted for Davis, you can't complain.. It's your fault!:|


You should also blame all the GOP retards who picked the only guy who could lose to Davis.
Riordan could have been our governor now.
 

LongCoolMother

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neither simon nor davis would have been a good choice.









why do you guys like it? we hate the irs, we hate taxes!
 

fatbaby

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well I'm a CA resident and I did not vote at all, but I fail to see how paying an extra $3-$10 would "kill alot of companies"

 

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Well, if the property taxes and medical insurance costs don't drive companies out of California...this sure will...at least all the ones that do sales over the internet.
 

masterxfob

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i think the new tax plan is reffering to online stores like bn.com (barnes & noble). Barnes and Noble has b&m stores in california but their online site is not operated within california so they do not charge sales tax for orders going to california.

basically they're trying to cover up a hole in the system.
 

rockyct

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Frankly, I'm not too against this. I pay tax on most stuff I buy online anyway, especially computer parts. The only major place that doesn't tax is Amazon, and they don't have any stores. I have to pay tax when I shop in a store, I also should pay tax online. Also, I voted for Davis because the state of California is not entirely his fault. He also tried to limit new annual expenses but both parties voted for new programs. If you blame California's woes on Davis, then you also have to blame the economy on Bush. Besides, Republicans were just plain stupid to vote for Simon over the guy who's name I can't spell, Rirden.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
We got that in Ohio now.

Ohio is in complete Republican control.

Taft... well, he might be listed as a republican, there are a couple of democrats that agree a lot more with the replican party platform and ideals than taft does.