C&C 3 has gone GOLD!

[Maximilian]

Its official The games finalised, its done, finito. Im hella exited!

Some random info about the final release:

Walls are out (added later in patch if demand calls for them)
Blue tiberium is in
Mutants are in (bought from hovel)
Viceroids are in
Some old stuff from tib sun is in (you'll find out what on march 28th, or if you dig around on google a bit)
Mammoths awsome strength has not been changed from the demo

Sign the walls petition! We can get them later in a patch

 

[Hadsus]

This is really C&C 300. The demo had me snoozin.

 

[JRich]

No walls?!?! Now engineers can capture my construction yard

 

[Kromis]

Do barbed wires and sandbags count as walls?

 

[Bateluer]

Cool. I must say, I was really impressed with C&C3 and disappointed with Supreme Commander. A well told story will hook me every time though, probably the main reason why I liked the C&C3 demo more than the SupCom demo.

Eventually, I'll likely own both though. SupCom seems like it will lend itself better to longer games than C&C3.

 

[Ultralight]

Yes! Yes! Yes! My favorite RTS Universe continues. I just hope my rig can run it well. And may the game coding be good, not like the slop Obsidian forced on us with Neverwinter Nights 2.


"We don't need no stickin' walls!"

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Ultralight
Yes! Yes! Yes! My favorite RTS Universe continues. I just hope my rig can run it well. And may the game coding be good, not like the slop Obsidian forced on us with Neverwinter Nights 2.


"We don't need no stickin' walls!"

You can see how the game runs by running the demo.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Ultralight
Yes! Yes! Yes! My favorite RTS Universe continues. I just hope my rig can run it well. And may the game coding be good, not like the slop Obsidian forced on us with Neverwinter Nights 2.


"We don't need no stickin' walls!"

You're in luck! C&C3 is actually the only recent game i can think of that performs well on older rigs. Runs great on ATI X8xx series and geforce 6xxx series, 1gb of ram will also suffice.

The default setting for the demo on my 9800 pro (this cards really getting old nowadays) with 768mb of pc2700 ram and 2x opteron 842's was pretty nasty looking, but i turned a lot of the things up to medium and performance did not suffer, plus it looked rather nice on medium. Large battles on this rig would most likely bog it down though when set to medium. This games performance scaling reminds me of good old half life 2 This is the way new games should be! Developers shouldnt be so eager to have their games bring the latest and greatest cards to their knees *cough* FEAR *cough* *cough* Sup com *cough*

 

[pontifex]

anyone going to purchase and download this from EA Link?

I'm thinking about it. I would get it faster than if i were to go to a store or pre-order it.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: pontifex
anyone going to purchase and download this from EA Link?

I'm thinking about it. I would get it faster than if i were to go to a store or pre-order it.

I was just going to ask if C&C3 would be available from EA Link. As an online distribution problem, I've been disappointed with EA Link. I bought B&W2 Battle of the Gods through it and wish I'd just bought the game at the store.

I doubt EA will license the use of Steam, unfortunately.

 

[Ultralight]

Originally posted by: Soviet

Originally posted by: Ultralight
Yes! Yes! Yes! My favorite RTS Universe continues. I just hope my rig can run it well. And may the game coding be good, not like the slop Obsidian forced on us with Neverwinter Nights 2.


"We don't need no stickin' walls!"

You're in luck! C&C3 is actually the only recent game i can think of that performs well on older rigs. Runs great on ATI X8xx series and geforce 6xxx series, 1gb of ram will also suffice.

The default setting for the demo on my 9800 pro (this cards really getting old nowadays) with 768mb of pc2700 ram and 2x opteron 842's was pretty nasty looking, but i turned a lot of the things up to medium and performance did not suffer, plus it looked rather nice on medium. Large battles on this rig would most likely bog it down though when set to medium. This games performance scaling reminds me of good old half life 2 This is the way new games should be! Developers shouldnt be so eager to have their games bring the latest and greatest cards to their knees *cough* FEAR *cough* *cough* Sup com *cough*

Boy do you ever speak the truth about recent games bringing the latest and greatest cards to their knees. There is absolutely no reason for this, but that is what sloppy coding will do.

I have an X800GTO 256 meg card with DDR3 memory, an Athlon 64 3200+ cpu, and 2 gigs of RAM. Think that should be okay? I have an LCD monitor whose highest resolution is 1280x1024 but that is fine for me. The old eyes aren't what they used to be...

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: pontifex
anyone going to purchase and download this from EA Link?

I'm thinking about it. I would get it faster than if i were to go to a store or pre-order it.

I was just going to ask if C&C3 would be available from EA Link. As an online distribution problem, I've been disappointed with EA Link. I bought B&W2 Battle of the Gods through it and wish I'd just bought the game at the store.

I doubt EA will license the use of Steam, unfortunately.

Well i cant say ive used it to buy anything (i want my dvd case and manual and posters etc, online downloads will never replace the physical item for me) but when i used EA link to download the demo i was very impressed with it. Stable, easy to use (easy to get rid of afterwards too) very fast download speed. It didnt bug me with ads or put me through an unneccesarily long setup either. What went wrong for you?

Originally posted by: Ultralight
I have an X800GTO 256 meg card with DDR3 memory, an Athlon 64 3200+ cpu, and 2 gigs of RAM. Think that should be okay? I have an LCD monitor whose highest resolution is 1280x1024 but that is fine for me. The old eyes aren't what they used to be...

That rig will run c&c 3 easily. Most likely at your max resolution too.

 

[Regs]

If you can run Generals at max settings - you could maybe get away with doing it again.

It's the same engine with more particle effects.

My only hope is a tank a rank higher than the scropian and another tank a rank lower than the mammoth.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Soviet
*cough* Sup com *cough*

Not sure what all the hubbub is about SupCom bring down powerful systems. It ran just as well as C&C3 on my machine, though the zoom and unit control took a little getting used to.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Soviet
Mammoths awsome strength has not been changed from the demo

I thought those needed to be nerfed a bit. In the demo, there was no point in building anything except Mammoth tanks.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Soviet
You're in luck! C&C3 is actually the only recent game i can think of that performs well on older rigs... This games performance scaling reminds me of good old half life 2 This is the way new games should be! Developers shouldnt be so eager to have their games bring the latest and greatest cards to their knees *cough* FEAR *cough* *cough* Sup com *cough*

That'd be because C&C3 isn't doing very much. The maps in the demo were small and unless they get much bigger, I assume that means you'd never need as many units as SupCom. Plus the view is restricted, so it doesn't have to do any real work.

F.E.A.R. worked my old 6800 very hard but I found a good balance of quality versus performance. Some of the stuff in the SupCom demo made it almost unplayable but the 6800 was 3 years old by then, as was the A64. Now I have a C2D and an 8800 GTS 320MB, both games run effortlessly.

Most game developers for the PC will target the latest and greatest hardware to get the "Wow!" factor. With C&C 3, the license is enough to sell shed loads of copies but they also inherited the traditional top-down, almost isometric view which means they get away with scaling on older hardware. I think C&C3 isn't that technically impressive, but they've spent a lot more on presentation, e.g. cut-scenes, briefings etc, so it feels very tight and scores points there (especially for Grace Park :thumbsup: ).

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Soviet


Well i cant say ive used it to buy anything (i want my dvd case and manual and posters etc, online downloads will never replace the physical item for me) but when i used EA link to download the demo i was very impressed with it. Stable, easy to use (easy to get rid of afterwards too) very fast download speed. It didnt bug me with ads or put me through an unneccesarily long setup either. What went wrong for you?

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The lack of a backup option and the slow downloads really irked me. Battle of the Gods wasn't that large of a download and it took EA Link over 4 hours to download it.

I also wonder if the DRM and kernal drivers were causing some of the instability I experienced on my X2 machine. It hasn't been installed on my C2D machine.

 

[clamum]

Sweet. Already have it pre-ordered from Wal-Mart. I had to put $5 down and I get a free map and CD or something.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Soviet
*cough* Sup com *cough*

Not sure what all the hubbub is about SupCom bring down powerful systems. It ran just as well as C&C3 on my machine, though the zoom and unit control took a little getting used to.

The demo ran allright for me too, on my good rig. But merely allright not fantastic. I think theres some driver issues to be ironed out with sup com, theres a lot of people with rigs that should handle it that simply cant.

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
That'd be because C&C3 isn't doing very much. The maps in the demo were small and unless they get much bigger, I assume that means you'd never need as many units as SupCom. Plus the view is restricted, so it doesn't have to do any real work.

Well yeah... overall theres less units, but even with large battles it apparently wont get bogged down, the engine surprised the developers with this whilest beta testing it when during a 40 annihilator vs 40 avata battle there was no detectable lag.

But personally i wasent impressed at all with sup coms graphics, i saw all these screen shots of awsome graphic battles etc and when playing it... all thats irrelivent, you cant see crap when zoomed in that close you have to be zoomed out or get stomped, and when zoomed out things dont look all that fantastic.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Soviet
Well yeah... overall theres less units, but even with large battles it apparently wont get bogged down, the engine surprised the developers with this whilest beta testing it when during a 40 annihilator vs 40 avata battle there was no detectable lag.

I guess 40 vs 40 is big for C&C

But personally i wasent impressed at all with sup coms graphics, i saw all these screen shots of awsome graphic battles etc and when playing it... all thats irrelivent, you cant see crap when zoomed in that close you have to be zoomed out or get stomped, and when zoomed out things dont look all that fantastic.

I think they struck a good compromise between fanciness and functionality. To get the "pimp" views, you have to hold down Space and move the mouse about, I guess that's for when you know you're gonna stomp all over the enemy and want to revel in it, you're having trouble seeing something or want to record a replay of something from another angle. Watching the nukes go off is always LOL-tastic.

I shouldn't compare C&C and SupCom really cos they're doing different things, even if they're in the same genre. I still want to play C&C, I'll just be a bit frustrated with the view and size of the maps, and I'm still thinking the Mammoth tanks are game breakers, at least on single player which is all I normally bother with.