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BYe BYe Seagate, it's been real...

Oh! So Maxtor is selling their Seagate outfit!

Maybe tweakboy will once again buy their HDDs, since they won't be IBM any more.
 
Well the former VP of Marketing & Business Development, Memory Products at Seagate is now the VP of SandForce. That should have told us something when he moved.
 
FishAk said:
Oh! So Maxtor is selling their Seagate outfit!

Maybe tweakboy will once again buy their HDDs, since they won't be IBM any more.
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Seagate bought Maxtor. In 2005 Seagate was the largest, Maxtor was third largest and Seagate bought Maxtor for $1.9 billion
 
Where's the author getting his numbers from? Hard drive sales are, so far, hardly "faltering". A look at the last 10K filings for WDC and Seagate show that Revenue was even (Seagate) or higher (WDC) than 2008 after a decline in sales in 2009 (doubtless because of the U.S. depression).

Seagate's latest annual SEC filing:
http://edgar.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1137789/000104746910007649/a2199925z10-k.htm

WDC's latest annual SEC filing:
http://edgar.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/106040/000095012310077390/a56460e10vk.htm
 
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Seagate was good before the Maxtor merger.

Then Maxtor started making Seagate drives under the Seagate name.

Maxtor drives are horrible the worst drives,, they all go bad. Seagate drives of today are really maxtor so that will go bad in due time.

Alto in 1998 my Seagate Cheetah 10k was ubber.
 
So they might go private. So what? How does the title "bye bye" relate to this in any way, unless you mean the stock. The company isnt going anywhere.
 
I guess I thought the venerable Seagate name might somehow be lost in the sale.

Still, they really should have invested in/bought SandForce. Then they would be a "Force" in the SSD world. I will never forget their CEO quote of "We do not think SSD's are anything to worry about". Or close to that 🙂
 
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I rest my case.
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You know, actually that's sad :/

b2t: Yeah I think seagate also would love to go back in time and invest in SF or another SSD company, that would've given them a nice competive advantage compared to the other big HDD makers... well it's not as if WD or Samsung were that much better off.
And just being bought doesn't mean much, so I don't see much of a problem..
 
They could still turn it all around by making good hybrids. The experience would get them to a solid state.
 
seagate is failing so someone is looking to buy them out and take them off the market?
I am sorry but that makes no sense at all, besides which, seagate has a few good years left in them yet.
now, in a few years when HDD finally reach end of life... thats when seagate will crumble... what worries me is Seagate's CEO's statement about SSDs... he said they have no intention of going into SSD market, and that SSD, as a technology, infringes on seagate patents, which they are looking into...
So maybe seagate will become patent trolls next... but that is for a while, AFAIK seagate is the only company with a hybrid drive for notebooks, and there is still huge demand for bulk storage purposes... people are getting an SSD as an OS drive to go along with their spindle drive, not as a replacement to spindle drives.
 
Platter based HDs will not die off for years simply do to costs. HDs are far cheaper to run for large scale storage.

But yeah I buy WD and Hitachi hard drives only. Too many issues with Seagate & Maxtor over the years.
 
Alright, I've got no historical sales data to back this up but:

From the first paragraph of the article in the first post of this thread:
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The traditional hard drive market is down with many computers, tablets, and other electronic devices that need storage moving to faster and more rugged flash-based offerings. That means that sales of traditional HDDs are faltering due to increased demand on the market for tablets like the iPad that are taking sales from the notebooks and netbooks.
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Since when has an iPad been a device designed to replace notebooks and netbooks? My understanding of the iPad is that it is designed to fill a market niche, and right now, there's no competition. It should be (mostly) increasing the overall demand for mass storage needs.

Anyway, I completely agree with most of the posts above stating traditional HDD's are not going to go away. Cost/GB is getting better every quarter (a nickel per GB is freakin awesome).

In addition, to say SSDs are going to replace traditional HDD's is like saying a new sports car is going to make pickup trucks obsolete. Sure, they can both take you from point A to point B, but every similarity between the two ends there.

Bottom line: SSD's and HDD's are two completely different products aimed towards two completely different uses.

Maybe, in 5-25 years (thinking more along the lines of about a decade, and it all depends on where the development money is put) SSD's cost/GB will move low enough to compete with traditional HDD's. The whole point is SSD's are about 5 years old (I'm guessing here), and we're just seeing the 3rd generation controllers for SSD's. Traditional HDD's have been around for about 30 years (another guesstimate), and the technology has been refined a lot. Whether or not SSD's replace HDD's in the future depends on how much further Spindle technology can be taken, and at what cost, compared to how far SSD technology can be taken, and at what cost.
 
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yeah an 640K is enough forever.

ssd is so big in enterprise nobody can meet the needs reliably. i need many terabytes of mlc flash right now. i could do make a server do 10x the work if i had 16 800gb drives (intel february).

The only other option is filling a 64 dimm chassis with 16gb dimms which would cost more and yield less total sql read iops.
 
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