Bwahahaha PC Yoga.....

[highland145]

A yoga instructor who teaches at the University of Ottawa says she is fighting to keep her program alive after the school’s student body suspended it over concerns that “cultural issues” relating to the class could offend students.
Jennifer Scharf, who has been offering free weekly sessions at the university’s Center for Students with Disabilities since 2008, told the Ottawa Sun that she was informed in September that the program would not come back for the fall semester.


In an email exchange between Scharf and a representative of the university’s Student Federation -- which was viewed by the newspaper -- a student wrote that “while yoga is a really great idea and accessible and great for students... there are cultural issues of implication involved in the practice.
"Yoga has been under a lot of controversy lately due to how it is being practiced," the email continues, and which cultures those practices "are being taken from."
The Student Federation, which operates the center, went on to say that many of those cultures “have experienced oppression, cultural genocide and diasporas due to colonialism and Western supremacy... we need to be mindful of this and how we express ourselves while practicing yoga."
Student Federation Acting President Romeo Ahimakin told the Ottawa Sun that the class has been put on hold until a way can be figured out "to make it better, more accessible and more inclusive to certain groups of people that feel left out in yoga-like spaces.
“We are trying to have those sessions done in a way in which students are aware of where the spiritual and cultural aspects come from, so that these sessions are done in a respectful manner,” he added.
But Scharf, who instructed about 60 students each week in the program, said, "people are just looking for a reason to be offended by anything they can find."
Scharf says she offered the student body leaders a compromise by suggesting she change the name of the course to “mindful stretching,” but after some debate, they couldn’t reach an agreement.
"I guess it was this cultural appropriation issue because yoga originally comes from India," she told CBC News. "We're not going through the finer points of Scripture. We're talking about basic physical awareness and how to stretch so that you feel good.”
Scharf added that she is “fighting so hard” to keep the class.

Grow an effing paiR and have the classes anyway.

Idiots.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/1...ts-cultural-issues-could-offend/?intcmp=hpbt2

 

[notposting]

Lol at the whole cultural appropriation, oh the oppressor's stealing from the oppressed.

Damn Canuck's oppressing India. When was that? During the great Poutine-Curry wars of the 20th century?

 

[Ham n' Eggs]

If this is what America is becoming all I can say is: how pathetic and sad, and absurd.

 

[highland145]

If this is what America is becoming all I can say is: how pathetic and sad, and absurd.

Canada....


...but we're no better.

Edit: Actually, I'd be happy to ogle at the yoga girls...depending on the girls, that is.

 

[Ham n' Eggs]

Canada....


...but we're no better.

Edit: Actually, I'd be happy to ogle at the yoga girls...depending on the girls, that is.

there's a reason he's smiling

 

[IronWing]

I guess if we need to give up yoga it's only fair that Indians give up indoor plumbing.





Okay, we're all done here. Next issue.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Grow an effing paid and have the classes anyway.

Idiots.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/1...ts-cultural-issues-could-offend/?intcmp=hpbt2

Say what now?

And the thing is, they are right. Yoga as people like you know it is a bastardized appropriated/co-opted version of actual religious practice. Without knowing who filed the complaints exactly, it will be difficult to say, but absolutely it could be a legitimate grievance. Take for instance people like Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow that would go around preaching yoga/Kabbalah type stuff, they were often incredibly ignorant insipid dumbshits. Imagine if you're someone who has heritage with real yoga, and you come to practice it and basically find a bunch of white women that are just doing pose stretching.

And that's not saying it is the case here, but this blanket "durr fucking PC!" Mr Garrison-esque South Park caricature reaction people are having is every bit as stupid as what you're railing against. But don't let knowledge get in the way of you thinking that everyone should just deal with it. Hell, knowing the average fact checking that local news and blogs do, we'll probably find out in a few days that the person running it has been kicking out very specific types of people, and somehow they just happened to gloss right over that.

And yeah, at people saying "how sad it is" when they can't even be assed to read a two paragraph article that is pasted in the OP. Its not sad at all how woefully uninformed people are though, right? Goddamn...

 

[darkswordsman17]

there's a reason he's smiling

Because he can tell the guy behind him is staring at his ass?

 

[destrekor]

Say what now?

And the thing is, they are right. Yoga as people like you know it is a bastardized appropriated/co-opted version of actual religious practice. Without knowing who filed the complaints exactly, it will be difficult to say, but absolutely it could be a legitimate grievance. Take for instance people like Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow that would go around preaching yoga/Kabbalah type stuff, they were often incredibly ignorant insipid dumbshits. Imagine if you're someone who has heritage with real yoga, and you come to practice it and basically find a bunch of white women that are just doing pose stretching.

And that's not saying it is the case here, but this blanket "durr fucking PC!" Mr Garrison-esque South Park caricature reaction people are having is every bit as stupid as what you're railing against. But don't let knowledge get in the way of you thinking that everyone should just deal with it. Hell, knowing the average fact checking that local news and blogs do, we'll probably find out in a few days that the person running it has been kicking out very specific types of people, and somehow they just happened to gloss right over that.

And yeah, at people saying "how sad it is" when they can't even be assed to read a two paragraph article that is pasted in the OP. Its not sad at all how woefully uninformed people are though, right? Goddamn...

That is all well and fair, and is likely very much the reason these people are against the yoga instruction... but I am curious if this yoga class is not just pure stretching and meditating and does include more "cultural" and spiritual aspects that reflect traditional yoga. That would cause some people to get themselves in a tizzy.

However, the reason we have yoga today that is mostly just meditation in motion and stretching (and hot damn is it relaxing - I like it but don't partake in classes), is because of the PC types that got offended by the spirituality that used to be "pushed" in the traditional yoga here in the West before it really became the new hot thing for white girls everywhere.

So, to reach a larger population and get more people into a style of meditation(1) that has a broader appeal, western yoga has removed much of the spirituality aspect but otherwise tries to keep as much of the "zen" nature as is possible.

(1)which is an awesome idea - more Americans need to meditate dammit, we have the worst style of work ethic and employers expect too much because of those who came before us - people need to unwind and be at peace

edit: so really... yoga, in the western world where yoga and meditation in general were never, ever part of our historic cultural upbringing, it's truly a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Yoga will people off people no matter which approach do take: the classical, spiritual take, or the more modern, relaxed variant.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I guess the folks who are against the class also don't eat Indian, Chinese or, Middle Eastern food because, you know, they might catch the evil culture.

 

[KMFJD]

In true Ottawa fashion they tried to call the class something different to keep it running but they disagreed on what to call it in french and dropped it until further discussion next semester...

 

[highland145]

nvm

 

[Rakehellion]

Grow an effing paid and have the classes anyway.

Idiots.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/1...ts-cultural-issues-could-offend/?intcmp=hpbt2

It doesn't look as if they were told to change anything, so your outrage is premature. Find something else to be offended about.

 

[highland145]

Hell, that's 2 in the same thread.

 

[notposting]

So basically, you didn't bother to read the CBC link the in the OP's post at all, is what you're saying?

Say what now?

And the thing is, they are right. Yoga as people like you know it is a bastardized appropriated/co-opted version of actual religious practice.

"But at the Hindu Temple of Ottawa-Carleton, one husband and wife said they didn't have an issue with what they've seen around the community and didn't agree with the idea that non-Hindus teaching yoga is culturally insensitive.

"In Hindi 'yog' means to unite. To unite with who? With your true self. That's what yoga is. Here we tend to relate it with the postures but it's not just postures... and it has nothing to do with religion," said Girija Waghray, who's been teaching yoga around Ottawa for more than 10 years."

Without knowing who filed the complaints exactly, it will be difficult to say, but absolutely it could be a legitimate grievance. Take for instance people like Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow that would go around preaching yoga/Kabbalah type stuff, they were often incredibly ignorant insipid dumbshits. Imagine if you're someone who has heritage with real yoga, and you come to practice it and basically find a bunch of white women that are just doing pose stretching.

And that's not saying it is the case here, but this blanket "durr fucking PC!" Mr Garrison-esque South Park caricature reaction people are having is every bit as stupid as what you're railing against. But don't let knowledge get in the way of you thinking that everyone should just deal with it. Hell, knowing the average fact checking that local news and blogs do, we'll probably find out in a few days that the person running it has been kicking out very specific types of people, and somehow they just happened to gloss right over that.

"In a French-language interview with Radio-Canada, student federation president Roméo Ahimakin said there were no direct complaints about the class, more general questions about the issues and ideas around it.

Ahimakin said they suspended the class as part of a review of all their programs to make them more interesting, accessible, inclusive and responsive to the needs of students."

And yeah, at people saying "how sad it is" when they can't even be assed to read a two paragraph article that is pasted in the OP. Its not sad at all how woefully uninformed people are though, right? Goddamn...

Something is sad here :hmm:

 

[CPA]

Say what now?

And the thing is, they are right. Yoga as people like you know it is a bastardized appropriated/co-opted version of actual religious practice. Without knowing who filed the complaints exactly, it will be difficult to say, but absolutely it could be a legitimate grievance. Take for instance people like Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow that would go around preaching yoga/Kabbalah type stuff, they were often incredibly ignorant insipid dumbshits. Imagine if you're someone who has heritage with real yoga, and you come to practice it and basically find a bunch of white women that are just doing pose stretching.

And that's not saying it is the case here, but this blanket "durr fucking PC!" Mr Garrison-esque South Park caricature reaction people are having is every bit as stupid as what you're railing against. But don't let knowledge get in the way of you thinking that everyone should just deal with it. Hell, knowing the average fact checking that local news and blogs do, we'll probably find out in a few days that the person running it has been kicking out very specific types of people, and somehow they just happened to gloss right over that.

And yeah, at people saying "how sad it is" when they can't even be assed to read a two paragraph article that is pasted in the OP. Its not sad at all how woefully uninformed people are though, right? Goddamn...

No, it is stupid and it is PC. I read the article yesterday, and I still don't have a fucking clue how her free class of an exercise method has anything to do with oppression. Who fucking gives a rat's ass if it's co-opted. Do we have to run every single thing through a PC filter to determine if we could, should do it? This is one of the stupidest things I have come across lately. Absolutely disgustingly stupid.

 

[Ichinisan]

I guess if we need to give up yoga it's only fair that Indians give up indoor plumbing.





Okay, we're all done here. Next issue.

:awe:

 

[destrekor]

No, it is stupid and it is PC. I read the article yesterday, and I still don't have a fucking clue how her free class of an exercise method has anything to do with oppression. Who fucking gives a rat's ass if it's co-opted. Do we have to run every single thing through a PC filter to determine if we could, should do it? This is one of the stupidest things I have come across lately. Absolutely disgustingly stupid.

Seriously, the entire American way of life (and, by that extension, Canadian, minus the Quebecois), is a culture defined by co-opting elements of other cultures. Thus the U.S. being known as a "melting pot."

PC culturally-sensitive folk are always up in arms over various issues relating to these usually boiled-down cultural elements stripped of their historic meaning. Guess what? Fuck off, I say. You have a right to be offended, and I have a right to say fuck off.

 

[boomerang]

That is all well and fair, and is likely very much the reason these people are against the yoga instruction... but I am curious if this yoga class is not just pure stretching and meditating and does include more "cultural" and spiritual aspects that reflect traditional yoga. That would cause some people to get themselves in a tizzy.

Which might be understandable if the class was a requirement. As long as it's voluntary, people who get their panties in a twist over it deserve to be ignored or laughed at.

 

[highland145]

Which might be understandable if the class was a requirement. As long as it's voluntary, people who get their panties in a twist over it deserve to be ignored or laughed at.

The required classes were "The Awesomeness of Shari Law" and "What not to wear."

 

[purbeast0]

Say what now?

And the thing is, they are right. Yoga as people like you know it is a bastardized appropriated/co-opted version of actual religious practice. Without knowing who filed the complaints exactly, it will be difficult to say, but absolutely it could be a legitimate grievance. Take for instance people like Madonna and Gwyneth Paltrow that would go around preaching yoga/Kabbalah type stuff, they were often incredibly ignorant insipid dumbshits. Imagine if you're someone who has heritage with real yoga, and you come to practice it and basically find a bunch of white women that are just doing pose stretching.

And that's not saying it is the case here, but this blanket "durr fucking PC!" Mr Garrison-esque South Park caricature reaction people are having is every bit as stupid as what you're railing against. But don't let knowledge get in the way of you thinking that everyone should just deal with it. Hell, knowing the average fact checking that local news and blogs do, we'll probably find out in a few days that the person running it has been kicking out very specific types of people, and somehow they just happened to gloss right over that.

And yeah, at people saying "how sad it is" when they can't even be assed to read a two paragraph article that is pasted in the OP. Its not sad at all how woefully uninformed people are though, right? Goddamn...

so you're saying if they simply called it something else like GOYA you would have no problem with it? well maybe you would because some hispanics may be offended since that is a staple food product brand.

you're a moron.

 

[TwiceOver]

They do know that the American culture has a history of oppression and genocide, right?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

God damnit, now what am I going to do? I didn't oppress anyone, I was just in the back of the room eating funyuns and taking some pictures. What gives, assholes?

No but seriously, more PC news. I knew this issue would explode like a giant turd. The question is if we squash the issue or let it keep getting bigger.

 

[IronWing]

They do know that the American culture has a history of oppression and genocide, right?

Right, so don't piss us off. Oh, and keep the gold out of sight. Say, that's some fine looking farm land you got there. Want to share a blanket?

 

[Rakehellion]

If this is what America is becoming all I can say is: how pathetic and sad, and absurd.

Slippery slope nonsense.

And there are three more threads on the main page about how everyone is too "politically correct" but zero threads about real world issues of oppression. As if your complaints about someone else's complaints are more important than life-threatening experiences people deal with every day.

You whiny nerds have such dichotomous thinking, this belief that everything must be one way or the other with no middle ground.

First world problems. :thumbsdown: