Buying laptop for graphic design??

igor_kavinski

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Zephyrus GX650RW-LO123X and GX650RM-LO062X would be my choices coz they are mini-LED so black levels should be much better. I hate the raised blacks of IPS.

Zenbook OLED is superior in image quality but I'm wary of burn-in. I suppose you will be working a lot with static images on screen? That's a no-no usage scenario for OLED.

If the mini-LED versions are not an option, I would begrudgingly get the Zephyrus IPS for peace of mind. Go with the OLED only if you are willing to go out of your way to protect it from burn in (not displaying high brightness images for long periods of time, activating the screensaver every five minutes when working in applications with static UI elements etc.)
 
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Zephyrus GX650RW-LO123X and GX650RM-LO062X would be my choices coz they are mini-LED so black levels should be much better. I hate the raised blacks of IPS.

Zenbook OLED is superior in image quality but I'm wary of burn-in. I suppose you will be working a lot with static images on screen? That's a no-no usage scenario for OLED.

If the mini-LED versions are not an option, I would begrudgingly get the Zephyrus IPS for peace of mind. Go with the OLED only if you are willing to go out of your way to protect it from burn in (not displaying high brightness images for long periods of time, activating the screensaver every five minutes when working in applications with static UI elements etc.)
Thank you
But the question is what is best for graphic design and video edit??
1-
mini-Led with
16-inch
WQXGA (2560 x 1600) 16:10

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16-inch
WQUXGA (3840x2400) 16:10 / WUXGA (1920x1200) 16:10
 

igor_kavinski

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WQUXGA (3840x2400) is better since it will give you more screen real estate. Absolutely necessary if you will be editing 4K videos.
 

Commodus

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Which laptops is better for graphic design and video edit ROG Zephyrus Duo 16 (2022) GX650RX-LB011X or Zenbook Pro Duo 15 OLED (UX582, 12th Gen Intel)?

https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/For-Home/Zenbook/Zenbook-Pro-Duo-15-OLED-UX582-12th-Gen-Intel/techspec/

https://rog.asus.com/laptops/rog-zephyrus/rog-zephyrus-duo-16-2022-series/spec
Which software do you intend to use? If I were in your position, I'd get a 16-inch MacBook Pro since it will likely be faster in some tasks (particularly video editing), quieter and last longer on battery. That and Apple does a good job with display color accuracy.

If it has to be a Windows laptop, and that's fine... don't get any laptop with an OLED screen. Don't even consider them. OLED is prone to burn-in (i.e. where traces of images are left permanently or semi-permanently on the screen) with static content, and in graphic design you'll be dealing with a lot of static content. Right now, the technology is better suited to viewing images and videos than editing them.
 

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I agree with Commodus, because the both Graphic artists I know use Macs. It's all about the software though. What software will you be using?
 

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Chances are you will be using an external monitor more often than not. OLED / artifacts should be a concern for the long term. Pick whichever fits your needs w/ external display connectors either HDMI / DP. since you'll also likely be moving data looking at USB4/TB4 as a consideration minimizes your time spent moving images / video back and forth.

I would personally skip the run of the mill laptops that cost too much for what they offer and go with Clevo / Sager models instead as you can get more customized experiences.



Since the new 12700H is still limited in shipping units the choices are a bit more limited but, new models seem to be pushing out every couple of days as I'm watching for something with a 3060/12700h in 15.6" format myself.

Xotic sells both Clevo/Sager models along with other mainstream models as well.

For what I'm focused on it's $300+ cheaper for the same HW inside the case. For someone looking for a top tier option it should still be cheaper and just as good depending on the finer details of what you want to get out of the laptop.
 

Commodus

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Chances are you will be using an external monitor more often than not. OLED / artifacts should be a concern for the long term. Pick whichever fits your needs w/ external display connectors either HDMI / DP. since you'll also likely be moving data looking at USB4/TB4 as a consideration minimizes your time spent moving images / video back and forth.

I would personally skip the run of the mill laptops that cost too much for what they offer and go with Clevo / Sager models instead as you can get more customized experiences.



Since the new 12700H is still limited in shipping units the choices are a bit more limited but, new models seem to be pushing out every couple of days as I'm watching for something with a 3060/12700h in 15.6" format myself.

Xotic sells both Clevo/Sager models along with other mainstream models as well.

For what I'm focused on it's $300+ cheaper for the same HW inside the case. For someone looking for a top tier option it should still be cheaper and just as good depending on the finer details of what you want to get out of the laptop.
I would avoid all Clevo/Sager-based laptops if I depended on one for work, which the OP clearly does.

To start, aftersale support is typically going to be worse than for those 'overpriced' brands. Xotic PC has warranty service, for example, but it's a small outfit and makes patently clear that you need to pay extra to get more than the most basic level of help. If your personal machine is also your work machine, that's not good enough — you could lose business if you have to wait a week or two for your laptop to come back from service, or if the help isn't good enough to get your problem resolved quickly.

I can't definitively speak about ASUS' support, but it's a big company with the infrastructure to deliver quality help and quicker turnaround times. And Apple, of course, has both stores and authorized partners that might fix your machine within a day, or even the same day. That kind of service is vital if you need to meet a project deadline.

And frankly, it doesn't seem like you're in tune with what the OP actually wants. The OP is clearly a creative worker who needs color accuracy and strong media editing performance; frankly, those Clevo/Sager laptops will suck for that purpose. They're for gamers and certain workstation users who are more interested in spec chasing than the best overall design; they're generic, thick and probably not the best at anything, even if they're unlikely to be terrible.

The ASUS laptops the OP suggested would help by making more screen area available for media editing tools through their secondary displays. They appear to have good color accuracy (100 percent of DCI-P3), and certain models have mini-LED panels that help with contrast. And the MacBook Pro? It'll likely be as fast or faster than those Clevo/Sager machines in editing apps like the Adobe Creative Suite, but it should also have better image accuracy, faster on-battery performance, longer battery life, less noise, a superior keyboard/trackpad combo... you get the idea.
 
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@Commodus

This isn't a pissing contest by any means. The option is there for my recommendation as well as yours.

The brands we have recommended meet the needs in different ways. I spec out lower end machines when it comes to price knowing I'm going to rip them apart when they arrive and put better options into them.

For instance.
https://rjtech.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30903 -- $1309 w/o RAM/Drive/etc.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KRMK2TL/ -32GB RAM $105
Drive - already have an SN850 gen 4 / 1TB and another gen 3 1TB sitting around
Screen - https://www.panelook.com/B173ZAN05.0_AUO_17.3_LCM_overview_46831.html
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https://www.kreplacement.com/product-12963.html - $345

So, in essence taking a "gaming" laptop and turning it into a creator version with tech that isn't widely available in "stock" configurations for about the tame price.

$1759 - w/o drive as I have them already ($~$150/ea/avg)
$2050 - w/ dual NVME 1TB drives

And it's Mini-LED

So, sure, you could pick something with "support" and pay more for it with subpar end results. You could tackle it with an alternative approach and get exactly what you want and DIY or outsource the upgrades. I've had my Clevo for a couple of years and had no issues with it from a HW standpoint and from a SW standpoint there were some drivers updated by Intel that cause some brief issues.

When it comes down to it I've seen more issues with run of the mill products and sticking with the popular click devices. When you stray away from the commercialism and advertising empires you might be surprised at what you can get and do with them. Another benefits is not being in a locked BIOS environment if you decide to tweak things a bit beyond the ordinary.

Since the OP is doing creator type work they probably have a desktop unit as well which means they're able to continue to churn out work if they have to send the laptop into a depot for repairs.
 

Commodus

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@Commodus

This isn't a pissing contest by any means. The option is there for my recommendation as well as yours.

The brands we have recommended meet the needs in different ways. I spec out lower end machines when it comes to price knowing I'm going to rip them apart when they arrive and put better options into them.

For instance.
https://rjtech.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30903 -- $1309 w/o RAM/Drive/etc.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KRMK2TL/ -32GB RAM $105
Drive - already have an SN850 gen 4 / 1TB and another gen 3 1TB sitting around
Screen - https://www.panelook.com/B173ZAN05.0_AUO_17.3_LCM_overview_46831.html
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https://www.kreplacement.com/product-12963.html - $345

So, in essence taking a "gaming" laptop and turning it into a creator version with tech that isn't widely available in "stock" configurations for about the tame price.

$1759 - w/o drive as I have them already ($~$150/ea/avg)
$2050 - w/ dual NVME 1TB drives

And it's Mini-LED

So, sure, you could pick something with "support" and pay more for it with subpar end results. You could tackle it with an alternative approach and get exactly what you want and DIY or outsource the upgrades. I've had my Clevo for a couple of years and had no issues with it from a HW standpoint and from a SW standpoint there were some drivers updated by Intel that cause some brief issues.

When it comes down to it I've seen more issues with run of the mill products and sticking with the popular click devices. When you stray away from the commercialism and advertising empires you might be surprised at what you can get and do with them. Another benefits is not being in a locked BIOS environment if you decide to tweak things a bit beyond the ordinary.

Since the OP is doing creator type work they probably have a desktop unit as well which means they're able to continue to churn out work if they have to send the laptop into a depot for repairs.
I'm glad to know that there are better display options, but you've still largely sidestepped my core argument: that it's not just about cramming the biggest specs into a chassis for the lowest possible price.

Again, this is a work laptop. Once more: work laptop. The OP can't afford to wait a long time for mail-in service or take risks with BIOS tweaks. They might not have the know-how or time for DIY upgrades. You can make unsupported claims about "subpar end results" and rail against "commercialism" as much as you like, but at the end of the day the OP needs to minimize downtime — and if they have a desktop (why are you assuming?), it should serve as a complement to the laptop, not as a crutch for poor support. I wouldn't want to lean solely on anecdotal reports of reliable behavior, either.

And like I said, the Clevo/Sager laptop designs themselves are... eh. Not strictly bad, but there's nothing special to recommend them apart from big-sounding specs on the cheap. They're not necessarily faster for the creative apps the OP will be using, and their designs might be not be as advantageous. I know I'd much rather have a MacBook Pro if I expected to work away from a wall outlet for significant stretches of time.
 

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