Buying cat5

[ni4ni]

I recently purchased the house next door to where I live. (My family still lives there.) I want to run cat5 cable to my house and outer building from my parent's house. They have no problem with this, as I will be paying half of the internet.

Is this legal? What is the easist way to do this? I was thinking of buying pvc conduit and putting regular cat5 in it.

What do you think?

 

[Kur]

Wifi?

 

[MikeShunt]

Originally posted by: ni4ni
I recently purchased the house next door to where I live. (My family still lives there.) I want to run cat5 cable to my house and outer building from my parent's house. They have no problem with this, as I will be paying half of the internet.

Is this legal? What is the easist way to do this? I was thinking of buying pvc conduit and putting regular cat5 in it.

What do you think?

In your sutiation I woudl do the same thing, you can get 1gig that way.

anyway, standard cat 5 cabel would start to deteriorate afrter 5 years. you could buy strips of plastic cable shield from these guys: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/

I cannot see any reason why this would not be legal. When I was younger I did the same thing to my mates house next door to my parents house so we could play doom2 over co-ax. so long ago now.

 

[peterm]

I think you have got the right idea.

You will need to use PVC Conduit, just make sure both ends are sealed off after the cable is put through it, or you will have a freeway for creapy crawlys and rodents.
On one end use a switch to connect the cable and the other to a router. Just as a note the cat5 10/100 cannot be longer than 100M, ( i use max 90M as a safe guard) as the signal breaks down, and gets very week. and everything should be sweet.

 

[Modelworks]

If you didn't mind lower speeds and cat5 becomes a problem to run you could use ehternet extenders. They have a limit of 5000 feet.

They work well and only require a single twisted pair wire.
It works similar to how dsl works.

Here is one such device.
http://www.netsys-direct.com/p...prod=NH-300EEKIT&cat=7

 

[kevnich2]

What are you all talking about that this is legal? Do you have any idea of electrical codes for this??? If the copper wiring leaves the building and it is not grounded, it is automatically against electrical code as well as fire code and you have just voided your home owner's insurance for BOTH houses. You can do one of three things, go with your original plan and then ground the CAT5e on both sides, go with fiber instead and then just get fiber to ethernet converters (this would be the way I would go as it's probably cheaper and easier) or you can go with wifi. But again, if the copper leaves the building ungrounded, it's against electrical code and fire code.

 

[pradeep1]

Originally posted by: kevnich2
What are you all talking about that this is legal? Do you have any idea of electrical codes for this??? If the copper wiring leaves the building and it is not grounded, it is automatically against electrical code as well as fire code and you have just voided your home owner's insurance for BOTH houses. You can do one of three things, go with your original plan and then ground the CAT5e on both sides, go with fiber instead and then just get fiber to ethernet converters (this would be the way I would go as it's probably cheaper and easier) or you can go with wifi. But again, if the copper leaves the building ungrounded, it's against electrical code and fire code.

Even if this poses such a small risk, it is still worth considering, because insurance companies will do and find anything to screw you out of money when the time comes.

Best bet, use a good wireless router placed close to the wall closest to your parents house and blast them with a connection. If they don't have a laptop, buy them a wifi receiver with a directional antenna to get your signal. You may be even able to mount an external antenna on your house with some directionality to focus the signal to your parents house.

Put some strong security and MAC filtering on your wireless connection and you should be fine without having to worry about violating building codes.

 

[kevnich2]

I don't consider it a small risk. I used to think it wasn't a problem until a lightning storm came through a building I was in that wasn't properly grounded, lightning struck outside, it followed the outside copper wiring, came inside the building & jumped onto the phone lines. They were lucky it stopped there. They had to go through all of the wiring and replace it.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: kevnich2
I don't consider it a small risk. I used to think it wasn't a problem until a lightning storm came through a building I was in that wasn't properly grounded, lightning struck outside, it followed the outside copper wiring, came inside the building & jumped onto the phone lines. They were lucky it stopped there. They had to go through all of the wiring and replace it.

yep. It can destroy a house/building. That's why theres codes/regulations all over ANY copper or conducting material that enters a building.

Not doing it properly between two buildings/houses is actively inviting serious consequences.

If it's the cable or phone company then they are liable. If you do it, you are. If you ever want to see just how serious grounding is look at where phones lines come into a building. Big huge green ground wire directly into earth ground. My next house is going to have a large copper busbar for all central grounding, right now it's just a large rod some 8 feet into the ground.

 

[kevnich2]

This is why I love fiber more and more, probably why telcos do as well. When you really get down to stuff like this, there's really no good reason for running copper. Fiber has much higher bandwidth, has no risk for fire, has no noise or interference problems, it can be run huge distances. It's a very nice advancement as communication is concerned.

 

[WackyDan]

Originally posted by: kevnich2
What are you all talking about that this is legal? Do you have any idea of electrical codes for this??? If the copper wiring leaves the building and it is not grounded, it is automatically against electrical code as well as fire code and you have just voided your home owner's insurance for BOTH houses. You can do one of three things, go with your original plan and then ground the CAT5e on both sides, go with fiber instead and then just get fiber to ethernet converters (this would be the way I would go as it's probably cheaper and easier) or you can go with wifi. But again, if the copper leaves the building ungrounded, it's against electrical code and fire code.

Low voltage wiring does not fall under these concerns in regard to the NEC. If he was running 110 AC, then yes, he'd have to comply with the NEC and other local ordinances.