hello dear users of this fine forum,
as you can read from my topic, its about watercooling and AMD64. As I have been an avid Intel buyer all my life I think that now really the time has come to finally take the step and go AMD. But as I am a complete noob as far as AMD is concerned I really have no clue what to go for? There are so many AMD models available and I have read quite a bit about many of them but am still left in the lurch. I have listed the prices for my country for the chips available,
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2,0GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 272,-
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2,0GHz, 1MB, OEM) ? 259,-
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0 GHz, 1 MB, Boxed) ? 332,-
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (2,2GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 422,-
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (2,2GHz, 1MB, OEM) ? 394,-
AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 (2,2GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 745,-
AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 (2,4GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 825,-
AMD Opteron 146 (2,0GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 314,-
AMD Opteron 148 (2,2GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 493,-
AMD Opteron 150 (2,4GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 749,-
AMD Opteron 240 (1,4GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 228,-
AMD Opteron 242 (1,6GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 244,-
AMD Opteron 244 (1,8GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 357,-
AMD Opteron 246 (2,0GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 496,-
AMD Opteron 248 (2,2GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 765,-
I have read on many review sites they speak of AMD 3800+ and 3700+ but I cannot find any of these models on that site I allways buy from(site is basically a gathering of all stores in Belgium and Holland and they offre prices going from cheap to most expensive store), look at link for prices to all models??
http://www.tweakers.net/pricewatch/cat/46/top
So can anyone for starters explain to me why I cannot find these 3500+,3600+,3700+,3800+ anywhere, is it hidden under another name?
My current system is,
Processor : Pentium IV 2.8Ghz
Motherboard : Gigabyte SINXP1394
Memory : 1Gb of 400MHZ DDR
Videocard : Asus Radeon 9800pro 256Mb
Harddisk(s) : 15rpm seagate SCSI disk, 160Gb seagate IDE disk
From all the great stuff i read from this latest batch of AMD's I am really looking for a system that can blow my current 2.8 out of the door(cuz lately games have been running on the slow side). Now the question is, do I go for one of the more pricey FX models or should I stick to the lower AMD64's like the 3800+,3700+ and below or any of the Opterons?? I have no clue as I am typing what the 3800+ and others do as I already mentioned above so hoping this will get cleared up while this topic goes on. You should bear in mind that I am looking to purchase a good watercooling system. When looking at some of the setups here my eye fell on Sokratz's setup,
http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?rigid=27628
his temperatures looked real nice(Load:28x43 Idle:25x37)and thats what I hope to accomplish as well, I must stress that I would never get a special watercooling for my HD or VGA card, the main thing for me is a CPU thats watercooled. I don't know if this guy Sokratz's setup only gets these temps cuz he cools both his HD and VGA card with special coolers as well?? Suppose I too bought this Dangerden, the black ice extreme radiator and the waterpump he has would I then get about the same temps for my new AMD when only cooling the CPU and not the VGA/HD? With for example a 3400+ and a good watercooling kit like this sokratz's could you then get speeds faster than any of the Fx-51 or FX53 chips?? As you see I have totally no clue what to do cuz this all seems like a maze to me, so many parts to get and as a total laymen start deciding what to get and what is crap eh, not an easy task I tell you. So best place to ask is a place full of knowledgable people who have tweaked the crap of their systems already:LOL:
From looking at his rig, what stuff from his list do I need to only cool the CPU? So the final question is, what AMD do you recommend, what good solid cooling do you recommend(knowing that my comp sometimes stays on during the night)and what kind of money would I be looking at for all the new goodies. I would need all watercooling parts to cool the CPU, a good motherboard for the AMD you suggest and this mobo has to be rocksolid and should be reasonably good at overclocking and ofcourse it has to be suitable for watercooling. I read on the review pages that the Asus SK8V was a kickass mobo but this ofcourse only for 940 pin processors. So I am gonna wait for your reply what you would recommend I do. I certainly don't want to spend too much, 1100$ would be okay(plus whatever I can get by selling my old parts), so around 1100-1400$ is what I am looking at.
Any replies are most welcome, at the moment I feel like I am stepping into a very dark forest with no lights up ahead, plz be my guiding light
friendly greetings for the AMD/Watercooling noob,
Laymen
as you can read from my topic, its about watercooling and AMD64. As I have been an avid Intel buyer all my life I think that now really the time has come to finally take the step and go AMD. But as I am a complete noob as far as AMD is concerned I really have no clue what to go for? There are so many AMD models available and I have read quite a bit about many of them but am still left in the lurch. I have listed the prices for my country for the chips available,
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2,0GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 272,-
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2,0GHz, 1MB, OEM) ? 259,-
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2.0 GHz, 1 MB, Boxed) ? 332,-
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (2,2GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 422,-
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (2,2GHz, 1MB, OEM) ? 394,-
AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 (2,2GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 745,-
AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 (2,4GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 825,-
AMD Opteron 146 (2,0GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 314,-
AMD Opteron 148 (2,2GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 493,-
AMD Opteron 150 (2,4GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 749,-
AMD Opteron 240 (1,4GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 228,-
AMD Opteron 242 (1,6GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 244,-
AMD Opteron 244 (1,8GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 357,-
AMD Opteron 246 (2,0GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 496,-
AMD Opteron 248 (2,2GHz, 1MB, Boxed) ? 765,-
I have read on many review sites they speak of AMD 3800+ and 3700+ but I cannot find any of these models on that site I allways buy from(site is basically a gathering of all stores in Belgium and Holland and they offre prices going from cheap to most expensive store), look at link for prices to all models??
http://www.tweakers.net/pricewatch/cat/46/top
So can anyone for starters explain to me why I cannot find these 3500+,3600+,3700+,3800+ anywhere, is it hidden under another name?
My current system is,
Processor : Pentium IV 2.8Ghz
Motherboard : Gigabyte SINXP1394
Memory : 1Gb of 400MHZ DDR
Videocard : Asus Radeon 9800pro 256Mb
Harddisk(s) : 15rpm seagate SCSI disk, 160Gb seagate IDE disk
From all the great stuff i read from this latest batch of AMD's I am really looking for a system that can blow my current 2.8 out of the door(cuz lately games have been running on the slow side). Now the question is, do I go for one of the more pricey FX models or should I stick to the lower AMD64's like the 3800+,3700+ and below or any of the Opterons?? I have no clue as I am typing what the 3800+ and others do as I already mentioned above so hoping this will get cleared up while this topic goes on. You should bear in mind that I am looking to purchase a good watercooling system. When looking at some of the setups here my eye fell on Sokratz's setup,
http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?rigid=27628
his temperatures looked real nice(Load:28x43 Idle:25x37)and thats what I hope to accomplish as well, I must stress that I would never get a special watercooling for my HD or VGA card, the main thing for me is a CPU thats watercooled. I don't know if this guy Sokratz's setup only gets these temps cuz he cools both his HD and VGA card with special coolers as well?? Suppose I too bought this Dangerden, the black ice extreme radiator and the waterpump he has would I then get about the same temps for my new AMD when only cooling the CPU and not the VGA/HD? With for example a 3400+ and a good watercooling kit like this sokratz's could you then get speeds faster than any of the Fx-51 or FX53 chips?? As you see I have totally no clue what to do cuz this all seems like a maze to me, so many parts to get and as a total laymen start deciding what to get and what is crap eh, not an easy task I tell you. So best place to ask is a place full of knowledgable people who have tweaked the crap of their systems already:LOL:
From looking at his rig, what stuff from his list do I need to only cool the CPU? So the final question is, what AMD do you recommend, what good solid cooling do you recommend(knowing that my comp sometimes stays on during the night)and what kind of money would I be looking at for all the new goodies. I would need all watercooling parts to cool the CPU, a good motherboard for the AMD you suggest and this mobo has to be rocksolid and should be reasonably good at overclocking and ofcourse it has to be suitable for watercooling. I read on the review pages that the Asus SK8V was a kickass mobo but this ofcourse only for 940 pin processors. So I am gonna wait for your reply what you would recommend I do. I certainly don't want to spend too much, 1100$ would be okay(plus whatever I can get by selling my old parts), so around 1100-1400$ is what I am looking at.
Any replies are most welcome, at the moment I feel like I am stepping into a very dark forest with no lights up ahead, plz be my guiding light
friendly greetings for the AMD/Watercooling noob,
Laymen