Buying a new gaming system. How does this look???

PVD

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Ok guys. Going to buy within the next week. Idon't have money to wait for SLI. I will upgrade in the future (1-2 years). How does this system look:

AMD 3200+ 90nm Winchester (O/C to hopefully 2.4-2.5)
Asus Av8 rev2 motherboard
OCZ El Platinum rev2 1GB RAM
Leadtek Geforce 6800 GT
2 WD 10,000 rpm Raptors in RAID config
Black Thermaltake Tsunami with included 400W Power Supply



What do you guys think about this gaming rig?? It will cost around $1500. I am recycling my old Audigy 2.
DO you think this is the best RAM? I read the Anandtech article and they got the 3000+ to insane speeds with this RAM. I was going to go with the 3200+ over the 3000+ b/c of the multipliers. Opinions???
 

Demo24

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looks great. but see if you can get a Gainward 6800gt golden sample :p(course if you hate noise then keep the leadtek)
 

imported_Computer MAn

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Looks good. I've heard only good things about that ram and have fun with the new system. Just wondering what heatsink do you plan on using for the processor.
 

Shortass

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If you're willing to spend so much on a computer, why not go the extra mile and get a better power supply? If you're going to be overclocking and using such a high end video card, you might as well make sure you have no voltage problems. Everything else looks sick though!
 

PVD

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Computer man- Hmm. I guess the xp-90???

Demo24- I didn't know the leadtek had alot of noise. Does the golden sample make that much of a difference? I know they are alot more. I planned on O/C my 6800 to Ultra speeds , which seems like every 6800 can.
 

PVD

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Shortass- Is the included Thermaltake PS crap?? I thought they were decent. To be honest, this is my max I can spend ($1500). I can't blow $150 on an OCZ Powerstream :)
 

imported_Computer MAn

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Originally posted by: PVD

Demo24- I didn't know the leadtek had alot of noise. Does the golden sample make that much of a difference? I know they are alot more. I planned on O/C my 6800 to Ultra speeds , which seems like every 6800 can.

The thing with a Golden Sample is that it is warenteed to Ultra speeds and it guarenteed to run there. Not all 6800's will run at Ultra mine won't so its basically insurance for Ultra speeds.

 

Demo24

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Originally posted by: PVD
Computer man- Hmm. I guess the xp-90???

Demo24- I didn't know the leadtek had alot of noise. Does the golden sample make that much of a difference? I know they are alot more. I planned on O/C my 6800 to Ultra speeds , which seems like every 6800 can.

nono the golden sample is loud. the leadtek is quite but I believe it also runs hotter. nad like computer man said its warrneted to run ultra speeds. just push a button and voila. overclcok the leaktek a mhz and youv voided the warrenty
 

Rapsven

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No, have you seen the heatsink on the Leadtek 6800 GT? It's a beautiful, massive, copper heatsink, it's the coolest of its peers.
 

everman

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I just posted a similar comment in another post: Are you sure the raptors are what you need? Especially raid-0 in this case...have you seen the appropriate benchmarks?
Just trying to save you money :cookie:
 

Gagabiji

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Gainward 6800 GT Golden Sample. I see the Leadtek card you were looking at is $395. This one is $429, so basically you are getting an Ultra for less then $30 more. I would highly reccomend this card to anyone looking to purchase a 6800 GT, as I am reccomending it to you. :)
 

PVD

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the golden sample is out at NewEgg.


Everman- No I haven't seen the benchmarks. I have a friend who swears RAID is SOO much faster (1/2 the access time). Is that wrong??
 

everman

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I need to dig up benchmarks, but it's really not worth it for gaming. If you're working with giant video files that's another story.

Ok here ya go, Article.
Summary: In UT2K4 the 2 in Raid0 performed exactly the same. And seemed slower in Farcry.

Also which I believe is very important: A single raptor shaves a mere 10% or less on level load time here, or 1-4 seconds. Is that really worth the enormouse price premium? I'd rather spend all that money on 2-3x the storage capacity.
 

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I think the Thermaltake is pretty good for the money, but you can get a 480W PSU for $55, that's what I'd recommend. Sure, there are better brands, but for $55, you'd be getting like a 300-350W PSU, so this really shines for the money, and is pretty solid, too. Also, The setup looks, good, there are just a few alternatives you may want to at least consider.
1. The 3000+ will clock just as high as the 3200, and since the FSB will be higher, it will perform better. However, obviously there is a risk of pushing the FSB too high. If you wanna go to 2.3-2.4, then save the money and go with a 3000+. If you wanna hit 2.5-2.6, and don't want a FSB of 290 or higher, than the 3200 is a bit safer. Of course, with the $40-50 you save, you could get some nice cooling.
2. Make sure you get good cooling. 1st priority - get some Arctic Silver 5 - it's like $12, and it can lower your temps by like 15 degrees celsius over standard thermal grease. 2nd, a good heatsink/fan. I've heard great things about the Thermalright XP-90, but between that and a fan, it'll run $50 or so. A cheaper alternative is a Thermaltake Venus 12. It's $30 with the heatsink, fan, and adjustable fan controller. It's not as good as the Thermalright, but it's $20 cheaper, and still does a pretty damn good job.
3. Memory - That memory is good, but consider Crucial Ballistix also. It's rated at 2-3-2-6, but it can run 2-2-2-5 pretty easily, holding those timings all the way up to DDR438. Also, at DDR500, it's got some of the best timings around, and that's the speed you'll be running if you have a 3200+ @2.5GHz. It's $255 shipped free from their website for 1GB (they give you a 4% off coupon code if you buy a matched pair). Another good choice is PQI Turbo 2-2-2-5 Ultra series ($245 shipped at newegg)
4. Those raptors are the fastest around, but the gains of raid 0 are not that substantial in a desktop environment. A nice alternative is the Maxtor Diamondmax 10 300GB drive. It's the fastest 7200RPM drive around, not too much slower than a raptor. It's $205 at newegg, so you save $150 and get a drive that is pretty damn fast with twice the storage space as the raptors. Or, you could spend $50 more than the raptors and get a pair of the drives for 600GB! It's got NCQ for use in new mobos as well.
5. The BFG 6800 OC is overclocked by default for the same price, and has a lifetime warranty, so I'd get that over the leadtek. No matter what, though, the 6800GT is a friggin sweet card, just make sure you don't get the ASUS V9999 Gamer Edition 6800, it's just a 6800 with extra memory, not a GT, so don't be fooled.
6. You mentioned wanting to upgrade in a year or 2. If that's important for you, I'd seriously consider waiting for a PCI-express mobo. I don't necessarily recommend waiting for SLI, since it might not even be out this year, but the nForce4 boards are supposed to be available in retail by the second week of november. ATI and nVidia have made it pretty clear that the future is gonna be on PCIe, and their recent product lineups reflect this. The X700, 6600, 6200, NV41, NV45, R430, and R480 families are all PCIe only, and the only ones with plans for an AGP version are the 6600s. Graphics cards with AGP will all be just leftovers and limited runs of newer cards when you are trying to upgrade. It will be pretty much like PCI graphics cards are now. Socket 939 has so much life in it (3200 up to 4400 at least on single core, not to mention dual core compatibility), it'd be a shame for it to be limited by the lack of a good graphics slot, and the high bandwidth PCIe x1 slots for peripherals.
 

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Originally posted by: PVD
Everman- No I haven't seen the benchmarks. I have a friend who swears RAID is SOO much faster (1/2 the access time). Is that wrong??

The the sustained rate to transfer is much higher on benchmarks, in the real world you would be hard pressed to notice the difference between a single raptor, and two raptors in raid 0. I already threw money in that direction only to notice no measurable performance increase over the 2x80gb 8mb 7200rpm Raid 0 it replaced. The only noticable difference was higher case temps.