Buying a gaming laptop with GTX 970M

Gam3r

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1) What is your budget?
around $1400 USD

2) What size notebook would you prefer?
15.6" screen


3) Where will you buying this notebook?
United States of America (USA)

4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
I believe in quality and performance over brand.

5) Would you consider laptops that are refurbished/redistributed? If good warranty and service.
Only brand new, no refurbished

6) What are the primary tasks will you be performing with this notebook?
Web Surfing, Video Editing, Photo Editing, Highes end video games.

7) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places, leaving it on your desk or both?
Mainly taking it around the house and outside, but not too far.

8) Will you be playing games on your notebook? If so, please state which games or types of games?
Most games, high settings, 4-5 years down the line.

9) How many hours of battery life do you need?
longer is better, minimum should be 4 hours.

10) Would you prefer to see the notebooks you're considering before purchasing it or buying a notebook on-line without seeing it is OK?
Cheapest deal possible

11) What OS do you prefer? Windows (Windows 7 / 8), Mac OS, Linux, etc.
Windows 8.1 or DOS

Screen Specifics

12) From the choices below, what screen resolution(s) would you prefer?
1920x1080p

13) Do you want a Glossy/reflective screen or a Matte/non-glossy screen?
I like high contrast glossy but anti-glare would be fine.

Build Quality and Design

14) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?
No

15) When are you buying this laptop?
As soon as possible, I can wait for deals though.

16) How long do you want this laptop to last?
It would be nice if it lasted 4-5 years.

Notebook Components

17) How much hard drive space do you need? Do you want a SSD drive?
I kind of wanted a SSD but I heard the speed doesn't help gaming that much.
The device should be at least 256GB if SSD, 1TB if HDD.


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There are two choices I saw online.
Alienware 15 with GTX 970M costs $1425 (included offer discount)
SAGER NP8651 with GTX 970M costs $1182
If there is some better laptop than these, tell me. I am buying from US in the end of May.

The advantage of alienware over sager for an extra $243 is that I will get an IPS panel 1080p display, 8-cell battery, genuine pre-loaded windows 8.1, ability to shift country warranty, brand value in India as well reselling, because I live in India.

The advantage of sager over alienware is that it is the cheapest option with my requirements, thinner (25mm) and lighter weight (2.6kg), even it has smaller 4 cell battery, it will provide good battery backup of 3-4 hours.
 

Aristotelian

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It may be a bit more expensive, but I've enjoyed my razer blade immensely. The 2015 model has the 970m and if I remember correctly you can downgrade the screen to a 1080p one from the 4k one.
 

Gam3r

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It may be a bit more expensive, but I've enjoyed my razer blade immensely. The 2015 model has the 970m and if I remember correctly you can downgrade the screen to a 1080p one from the 4k one.

Sorry, can not afford razer blade. I am tight on my budget.
 

Stuka87

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No laptop is going to run games 4-5 years down the line on high settings. Most will have issues keeping up with high settings with current AAA games.

If you really want a machine to last that long, get a desktop. For $1500 you can build a desktop that would wipe the floor with any laptop.
 

Gam3r

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No laptop is going to run games 4-5 years down the line on high settings. Most will have issues keeping up with high settings with current AAA games.

If you really want a machine to last that long, get a desktop. For $1500 you can build a desktop that would wipe the floor with any laptop.

It would be alright if games run of medium settings after 4-5 years. I know desktop would be killer, but I am a college student, move here and there so laptop only.
 

gothamhunter

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Alright! can you give reasons of this Sager model over Alienware 15?

Slightly better processor and a significant discount in price. Use that price difference to get a nice SSD from Amazon.

I own a Sager and it's an excellent machine. Don't pay for the Alienware brand name.
 

Gam3r

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At xoticpc.com there is also an option to customize with an extra internal storage in which I can put 120GB Samsung SSD by paying extra $95. I will use that as C: drive for windows 8.1
Plus I will customize SAGER NP8651 with IPS panel by paging extra $45.
Final price would be $1318 (84k INR)

Can you tell me how much time it will take to deliver after all these customization?
 

gothamhunter

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At xoticpc.com there is also an option to customize with an extra internal storage in which I can put 120GB Samsung SSD by paying extra $95. I will use that as C: drive for windows 8.1
Plus I will customize SAGER NP8651 with IPS panel by paging extra $45.
Final price would be $1318 (84k INR)

Can you tell me how much time it will take to deliver after all these customization?

I have no idea, but they have excellent support. You could try their live-chat on the website or sending them an email with your question.
 

Gam3r

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Thanks a lot @gothamhunter :)
One last question. Would I able to put an extra SSD manually like RAM in alienware 15 (2015)?
 
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For the value, the Sagers are a better purchase. The difference in performance won't be enormous and you get the brand name and design behind your purchase. You seem to be enthusiastic about the Alienware so go for it. It is also a good option.
 

PrincessFrosty

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No laptop is going to run games 4-5 years down the line on high settings. Most will have issues keeping up with high settings with current AAA games

Stuka87 is right, you need to hugely modify your expectations of mobile equipment, they simply don't have the space, cooling or power to deliver the kind of graphical processing power to keep up with high end games, the mobile variants of GPUs are always a lot slower and expecting something to last 4-5 years with high settings is a real stretch for a desktop computer with SLI much less a laptop with only a mobile GPU.

You'd be lucky to get a lot of modern games maxed out today much less in 4-5 years time when the requirements are 4x-6x higher.
 

sweenish

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I do agree with tempering expectations, but at the same time, the 970M is probably the way to go. nvidia's mobile and desktop parts are closer to the same performance than they've ever been, which has been a major boon for mobile.
 

SithSolo1

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I do agree with tempering expectations, but at the same time, the 970M is probably the way to go. nvidia's mobile and desktop parts are closer to the same performance than they've ever been, which has been a major boon for mobile.

While it may be true that the mobile parts are closer than ever to the desktop parts you still need to put that in perspective.


The GTX 970M at best is about 60% as fast as a desktop GTX 970 or about as fast as an R9 280X. At this point the R9 280X is almost three generations old.



If it were me I'd drop ~$1000-1200 on a decent desktop(maybe mini-itx) w/ monitor for gaming and media editing. The cpu and gpu will be faster than anything in a laptop in that price range. Then I'd spend whatever was left over on a bay-trail laptop or a chromebook for web surfing, media consumption, and mobile documents.