buying a diesel ?

cprince

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Diesels have more torque, but lack the high rpm as in gasoline engine. So you can't accelerate as fast. Also, they used to be not as clean burning as gasoline engines. There are less filling stations with Diesel so you have plan ahead of where you are going.
 

Toastedlightly

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Originally posted by: cprince
Diesels have more torque, but lack the high rpm as in gasoline engine. So you can't accelerate as fast. Also, they used to be not as clean burning as gasoline engines. There are less filling stations with Diesel so you have plan ahead of where you are going.

rpm has nothing to do with acceleration. RPM has to do with the horsepower, as it is derived from torque. Diesels can accelerate just fine with the proper gearing.
 

Sunrise089

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Diesels can be filled up anywhere, and accelerate just as quickly as gas powered cars. In fact, I'd imagine the average diesel will be quicker, since marketing folks will want a minimum amount of hp in their cars. What would you rather drive - an economy car with 140hp and 130lb/ft, or 120hp and 230/lb/ft?

The only application where diesels aren't superior is performance driving, especially if you want a light, tossable feeling car. Look up Car and Driver's review of the Euro diesel 3-series, and they admit that while the car is "better" than ours, the engine isn't as fun.
 

Jahee

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Originally posted by: cprince
Diesels have more torque, but lack the high rpm as in gasoline engine. So you can't accelerate as fast. Also, they used to be not as clean burning as gasoline engines. There are less filling stations with Diesel so you have plan ahead of where you are going.


Tell that to the Audi r10.
RPM doesn't necessarily have anything to do with high rpm. My old diesel made the same power at 3300 RPM as my current petrol does at 5500.

There's not really many reasons to not buy a diesel nowdays and every reason to. With diesel and petrol models of the same car being basically the same speed. But with diesel being more efficient and much easier to drive in everyday conditions it wins hands down.
About half of new cars bought today here are diesel!
 

Jahee

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Originally posted by: Sunrise089
Diesels can be filled up anywhere, and accelerate just as quickly as gas powered cars. In fact, I'd imagine the average diesel will be quicker, since marketing folks will want a minimum amount of hp in their cars. What would you rather drive - an economy car with 140hp and 130lb/ft, or 120hp and 230/lb/ft?

The only application where diesels aren't superior is performance driving, especially if you want a light, tossable feeling car. Look up Car and Driver's review of the Euro diesel 3-series, and they admit that while the car is "better" than ours, the engine isn't as fun.

Fun is percieved, but i do know what you mean..
 

amish

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my big plan is to take a old wrangler (TJ) and drop a cummins 4BTA into it. unfortunately the overall cost is huge. new axles, transmission, transfer case, suspension, etc. but it would be so much fun to build and drive.
 

nweaver

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Originally posted by: amish
my big plan is to take a old wrangler (TJ) and drop a cummins 4BTA into it. unfortunately the overall cost is huge. new axles, transmission, transfer case, suspension, etc. but it would be so much fun to build and drive.

just buy a 3/4 ton short bed and be done with it...

and find the manual tranny, the auto in those sucks. I'm partial to the first gen cummins (91-93) as it's more mechanical rather then computerized, and easy to work on/beef up.

gov. spring, plate, little bit of alcohol, maybe a bigger turbo/better compressor and grinding your pin...lots -o- HP then