BUYER BEWARE: EMSComputing.com Namechange: TechSavings.com

Tal

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:(:(Warning, I'm not seeing Techsavings.com on ResellerRatings, and my friend just bought some Z-560's from Techsavings.com
His Credit Card receipt showed a charge from EmsComputing/Techsavings!!!!! They are back, and after they screwed so many people with their false "Free Shipping" deal, I'm gonna leave some negative feedback at Reseller after they get listed.

FYI: He did get his Z-560's, but originally had placed the order with EMS, and should have paid $122 with Free Shipping, and through TechSavings, paid $121 PLUS $19 SHIPPING. Those RATS!:disgust::disgust::disgust::disgust:

-TAL
 

beeebeeebeee

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So, you're friend placed an order with EMS when they had a free shipping promotion. Then, at the same time, EMS had a ill planned office move which delayed a lot of orders. So, your friend canceled his order because the wait was too long. Then replaced an order with TechSavings which did not offer free shipping.

Now, you're going to file negatives on Techsavings even though their prices are fairly reasonable for the Z560s?

Do you have dual personalities? Why are you placing a negative if you never placed an order in either instance? Why are you so mad for your friend?

EMS made a blunder when they made their office move ... why do they have to get punished again? EMS apologized and shipped all orders that weren't canceled.

No, I didn't take part in the free shipping promotion but I did experience the delays due to returning a monitor during their office move and waiting and waiting for the replacement. However, when I e-mailed them, they were very polite and didn't give me any trouble or BS. They were very straight forward eventually sent out my replacement monitor. I don't think they should be penalized since they just made a planning error. It's not like they scammed anyone like TigerDirect (who scams as a way of business and has deceitful customer service). Besides, EMS's prices are pretty good ... slightly cheaper than Newegg (who charges restocking fees for exchanges).
 

Tal

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I got an order of mine screwed up by EMS computing with their Free Shipping deal. They canceled my order, I did not. If TechSavings.com is the new name for EMSComputing, I will leave bad feedback to warn others, because I feel EMS didn't provide quality service.


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Nah, I'm still bitter about EMS, and I don't like it when they change their name because of poor reputation and then keep info on their site saying, established in 1997, etc. If I'm mistaken and Techsavings isn't EMS computing, then I'll open mouth, insert foot. Just trying to give folks a heads up who swore to never deal with EMS again..... -TAL

PS: Planning error? A Free Shipping special the same time as an office move? Pretty big planning error!!!!!
 

KF

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Here is the way I understand some of these outfits work. (I have no specific info on EMS.) They are "order takers" that may not have any stock of their own, and what they describe as "shipping from many warehouses" is really just taking orders for many separate companies that contract through them. It's a way for small companies to get a lot of orders at a low cost, or for an entrepeneur to load up on one popular item and have simple, cheap way to distribute to customers. The actual companies the order takers deal with vary from time to time.
 

Banana

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Originally posted by: Tal
Warning, I'm not seeing Techsavings.com on ResellerRatings, and my friend just bought some Z-560's from Techsavings.com
His Credit Card receipt showed a charge from EmsComputing/Techsavings!!!!! They are back, and after they screwed so many people with their false "Free Shipping" deal, I'm gonna leave some negative feedback at Reseller after they get listed.

FYI: He did get his Z-560's, but originally had placed the order with EMS, and should have paid $122 with Free Shipping, and through TechSavings, paid $121 PLUS $19 SHIPPING. Those RATS!

-TAL
Uh . . . How did Techsavings screw your pal? When he ordered the speakers from Techsavings, why was he expecting free shipping? Did Techsavings promise free shipping? If yes, then you should post that as a HOT DEAL! :D

1YP
 

KF

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I have nothing but good to say about EMS computing. Fast, cheap, correct.

I saw this thread about EMSComputing, and there have been others, so I thought I would start a similar one on the behavior of SVCompucyle. But the thread-masters here locked it, unlike those which have been going on for a long time. I wonder why?
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: beeebeeebeee
So, you're friend placed an order with EMS when they had a free shipping promotion. Then, at the same time, EMS had a ill planned office move which delayed a lot of orders. So, your friend canceled his order because the wait was too long. Then replaced an order with TechSavings which did not offer free shipping.

Now, you're going to file negatives on Techsavings even though their prices are fairly reasonable for the Z560s?

Do you have dual personalities? Why are you placing a negative if you never placed an order in either instance? Why are you so mad for your friend?

EMS made a blunder when they made their office move ... why do they have to get punished again? EMS apologized and shipped all orders that weren't canceled.

No, I didn't take part in the free shipping promotion but I did experience the delays due to returning a monitor during their office move and waiting and waiting for the replacement. However, when I e-mailed them, they were very polite and didn't give me any trouble or BS. They were very straight forward eventually sent out my replacement monitor. I don't think they should be penalized since they just made a planning error. It's not like they scammed anyone like TigerDirect (who scams as a way of business and has deceitful customer service). Besides, EMS's prices are pretty good ... slightly cheaper than Newegg (who charges restocking fees for exchanges).

The above is your opinion. The following is mine:
EMS is a fvcked up company. They didn't make a blunder.
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They used us by charging all of our cc's (all together for probably 10's of 1000's of dollars) for an interest free loan...to help with their move or some other reason. Then they cancelled most everyone's order (which, IMO, was the intention from the outset) and shipped a tiny few to try and appease the masses.
<<...and shipped all orders that weren't cancelled.>>
I think you probably should've said ..and shipped all orders that they did not cancel.


<<I have nothing but good to say about EMS computing. Fast, cheap, correct.>>

I have nothing but bad things to say about EMS computing. Crooks, liars, jackasses.


EMS Computing is scum!!
 

clarkmo

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Originally posted by: KF
I have nothing but good to say about EMS computing. Fast, cheap, correct.

I saw this thread about EMSComputing, and there have been others, so I thought I would start a similar one on the behavior of SVCompucyle. But the thread-masters here locked it, unlike those which have been going on for a long time. I wonder why?

Probably because you hadn't tried very hard to resolve your situation. You could call or use one of their other emails.
The situations are not the same. You just wanna use the forums to wail and scream. Give the co. a call or use one of their other addresses.

EMS on the other hand always charges your card immediately, whether or not your part is gonna ship anytime soon. I think that is illegal
and they were incommunicado for a while. Different sitation entirely.

In before the lock.
:)
 

yellowperil

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Originally posted by: beeebeeebeee
So, you're friend placed an order with EMS when they had a free shipping promotion. Then, at the same time, EMS had a ill planned office move which delayed a lot of orders. So, your friend canceled his order because the wait was too long. Then replaced an order with TechSavings which did not offer free shipping.

Now, you're going to file negatives on Techsavings even though their prices are fairly reasonable for the Z560s?

Do you have dual personalities? Why are you placing a negative if you never placed an order in either instance? Why are you so mad for your friend?

EMS made a blunder when they made their office move ... why do they have to get punished again? EMS apologized and shipped all orders that weren't canceled.

No, I didn't take part in the free shipping promotion but I did experience the delays due to returning a monitor during their office move and waiting and waiting for the replacement. However, when I e-mailed them, they were very polite and didn't give me any trouble or BS. They were very straight forward eventually sent out my replacement monitor. I don't think they should be penalized since they just made a planning error. It's not like they scammed anyone like TigerDirect (who scams as a way of business and has deceitful customer service). Besides, EMS's prices are pretty good ... slightly cheaper than Newegg (who charges restocking fees for exchanges).

Correction - EMS cancelled the orders and delayed returning the charges. In my case they never refunded the money - I had to get it back through my credit card company, by contesting the charges. I have other information that suggests they weren't being entirely forthright about their practices/intentions, but I won't disclose it here.
 

slycat

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regardless of what they rename themselves to...yes, please put the word out that
they are EMS.

That IS relevant information.
Thanks, Tal
 

KF

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Originally posted by: clarkmo
Originally posted by: KF
I have nothing but good to say about EMS computing. Fast, cheap, correct.

I saw this thread about EMSComputing, and there have been others, so I thought I would start a similar one on the behavior of SVCompucyle. But the thread-masters here locked it, unlike those which have been going on for a long time. I wonder why?

Probably because you hadn't tried very hard to resolve your situation...
In before the lock.
:)

They aren't going to lock it. EMS is the topic, not SVC. They may delete my comments.

> Probably because you hadn't tried very hard to resolve your situation.
If they haven't answered the email in 9 days, they aren't going to.

SVC has an in at Anandtech. Either that or SVC lawyers have made contact before. Too bad EMS doesn't have that advantage. This thread is as off topic if EMS is the subject as it is if SVC is the subject.

> You could call or use one of their other emails.
I used the email SVC says they want me to use. All the emails are somebody@svcompucycle.com. Calling transcontinental and being put on hold will run up a big bill. SVC knows that and they use it to their advantage.

>The situations are not the same. You just wanna use the forums to wail and scream.

I got the mistaken idea that SVC was a good place to deal with from reading the SVC fanboys here, and not "Brag and Moan." The word has to get out about SVC. I am far from the only one SVC treated this way. Other people were speaking up before they did a panic, emergency deletion of the thread within a half hour. They were five SVC fanboys that hopped on the topic within 15 minutes. I never got that amount of response to anything I ever wrote. At that rate it would have been one of the longest threads within a few hours. If you know where to look on the 'net, you can find more about the problems with SVC. That's the trouble. It should be a topic here where people will be warned. No one reads Brags and Moans. "Brags and Moans" is not about anything. It is all about miscellaneous. It's boring. They delete it periodically, so you can't follow anything. You would never know if SVC was even mentioned unless you read every word of every message. Meanwhile EMS gets worked over the coals regularly. I'm not saying EMS doesn't deserve some of it. It just happens I got great service and a great deal from them. I ordered from SVC and EMS within hours of each other, but got my stuff 2 days earlier from EMS. The orders came through the UPS same shipping depot in California. The SVC order was all in small box (heatsinks, cables, fans). The EMS order was a big computer case.

I've got nothing against SVC. They are one of the amazing places on the Internet. I figure I came out ahead compared to some other places. I didn't get first-class quality, but I didn't expect it either. It was satisfactory. I just don't get why they won't straighten out my order. Are they bankrupt? Are they folding?
 

AgentHEX

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<B>KF:</B>

Perhaps you are not aware of the subtle difference here between SVC and EMS. EMS *scammed* people by charging them for merchandise that they weren't even going to deliver. They didn't credit a lot of people when they cancelled orders. That is considered fraud.

SVC sent you a wrong part, and they were busy last few days because yahoo didn't calculate shipping correctly for a cheap PS that a lot of people bought. Still, I reached Shervin fine and Wong answer my later emails within a day. This is NOT considered fraud.

See the difference?

HEX
 

TechZen

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FYI- I've never bought anything from EMS... because there used to be a website that highlighted how they do business. I can't find the site now, just spent 1/2 hour searching for it. There was an old thread here about them with a link, couldn't find that either. Basicly the site detailed how the owners started off with one name around four-five years ago. At first they had good deals/great service, got peoples trust. Then they had great deals/no service, scammed a bunch of people, shut down. Sold the company to a friend, he changed the name, reopened and they did it all over again. And again.And again.And again. The website had pics of the building,owners,workers,stock,etc. taken buy a person who lived close by who was ripped off. I don't know if the site was truthful, but with all the complaints for all the different names EMS has gone by, and with all the choices of places to shop on the net. I just stayed away. If anyone remembers the thread or site I'm talking about please post links thanks.
 

pitupepito2000

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Hi,

I have dealt with EMSComputing, and they are the worst company I have ever seen. The are afwul. The offered this free shipping deal and a lot of people bought from them. But EMS Computing just canceled all the orders after making everybody wait for 2 weeks, no notice or contact from them at all.

I'll never buy from them.
thanks for the good info:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|
 

bpctech

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yeah i got screwed too with that recent ems deal. i emailed them several times and never once got a response. there phone system doesn't allow you to actually speak to a person either! I finally got the CEO's extension and actually got in touch with him to get my order cancelled. pretty ridiculous customer service just based on that evidence alone.
 

Kay0909

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My brother bought z-560s from them over 1 1/2 months ago and they still havent done ANYTHING.

They charged my fathers CC card also.

What should he do?:|:|:|:|:|:|
 

amdskip

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Originally posted by: Kay0909
My brother bought z-560s from them over 1 1/2 months ago and they still havent done ANYTHING.

They charged my fathers CC card also.

What should he do?:|:|:|:|:|:|
Call them for already!
 

Kay0909

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Originally posted by: amdskip
Originally posted by: Kay0909
My brother bought z-560s from them over 1 1/2 months ago and they still havent done ANYTHING.

They charged my fathers CC card also.

What should he do?:|:|:|:|:|:|
Call them for already!

He did!!!

Like others said, they dont actually have ANYONE to pick up the phone!! :(
 

Mangler

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After reading many posts about the issue with EMS computing I know must add my $.02!

I have ordered 4 times from the company and have gotten all the items which were on time and billed correctly. (3 cases, 1 monitor)

My Antec SX1040B blew its powersupply 7 months after I bought it and I just happened to loose the reciept, so I called EMS and they E-Mailed me a new receipt! They also gave me all the numbers to Antec to RMA it. Plus, they did all this for me on the first phone call.

I am sorry to all you guys that got the one over with the "free shipping" deal, but I am like KF and have nothing but good things to say about the old company! God only know wtf happended to them now!

Will I buy from them now? Prolly not after seeing you guys and your issues! anandtech making me change my ways again!
 

JoeS

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Tal - Thanks for the info!
I have ordered from the following:
EMS (free shipping) ... Will not buy from them again :frown:
Newegg .................... Always excellent service and quick shipping. I will buy from them again and again:D
SVC ........................... Ordered parts, next day SVC e-mailed HS oos, changed to different HS by phone (fast response), parts arrived quickly by priority mail. I will buy from them again :D
 

Celstar

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Internet shoppers are more saavy than some etailers expect. Boo on EMS! I would expect all involved to leave appropriate reseller feedback.
 

Bobartig

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Definitely good to know. EMS is DEFINITELY a scam, and anyone still thinking otherwise is ignoring all the evidence, or got lucky with a purchase or two.

Having to call the CC company on all these stupid tech companies that can't run an honest biz is a complete pain. It shouldn't be the exception to find an online vendor that's actually legit. It was really fun watching Anandtech kill their ResellerRating. I guess this way we get to do it twice! ;)