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[dmcowen674]

Interesting, a guy from here in Atlanta has started this site, actually Marietta Georgia is a suburb of Atlanta Northwest of the city and the Home of Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr.

2-14-2004 OnShoreAlternatives

Our Mission:

Offshoring, also called offshore outsourcing, is the practice of firing American workers and exporting their jobs overseas.

We know that this is dangerous for our economy today, and even worse for the future of our children.

We believe consumers should have a choice between buying from companies who offshore and companies who value the Americans, workers and customers and stockholders, who made these companies what they are today.

Our mission is to help you make that choice. WHAT WE DO:

We research companies of each type listed in the Company Types box.

The Companies Researched area shows companies who Offshore and companies we know do not offshore.

We found offshoring companies based on internet sources.

For companies listed as not offshoring we searched the web first for evidence of offshoring, and finding none, we contacted the companies directly for definitive answers that they do not offshore.

If a company replied to us with a refusal to say if they offshore, they appear under "Offshoring" with the words "Refused to Say."

ALL COMPANIES CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEB BY TYPING THE 'COMPANY OR BRAND' IN A SEARCH ENGINE. WHERE WE'RE GOING:

This site is a work in process.

We have started research on hundreds more companies of the types listed.

We expect to hear back from many companies we have contacted.

Every week we will have many companies to add.

We ask anyone who knows of companies that do not offshore to let us know about them.

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

More Companies.

LINKS TO COMPANIES WHO DON'T OFFSHORE.

This site was last updated on 01/22/04. * Company/Brand Codes:
(in the company or brand box)
US = Made in US
U = Union made

 

[chess9]

I added that link to my Favorites list.

Thanks, Dave.

-Robert

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: chess9
I added that link to my Favorites list.

Thanks, Dave.

-Robert

Slowly but surely people are realizing we're hitting Critical Mass as more and more are getting affected personally.

The AT Economy Experts in here, Rush, hannity, The President and his Minions and CAD & Co are not personally affected yet so they couldn't give a Rat's A$$. They are nor personally affected because they are in the positions high enough at the top that they personally gain from the exploits of those BELOW them. Well goody goody for them until those that they have trampled will gather in force enough to rise up against them and that is what you are starting to see.

 

[burnedout]

Well goody goody for them until those that they have trampled will gather in force enough to rise up against them and that is what you are starting to see.

Feeling like a proletariat this morning, eh Dave?

 

[chess9]

The Republicans are now scrambling to try to save face on this jobs issue. Disavowing MINKCOW was the first step. But let's see some real action on jobs by Bush. As long as the tax code doesn't penalize companies that send their jobs oversees I don't see the trend changing unless Americans will hold hands together and not buy from those who outsource our work.

I don't see any Republicans endorsing this idea, Dave. And, I'll bet a lot of liberals will oppose it as well.
-Robert

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: burnedout

Well goody goody for them until those that they have trampled will gather in force enough to rise up against them and that is what you are starting to see.

Feeling like a proletariat this morning, eh Dave?

Ah yes, nothing like Communism and the India Caste system.

That's would you would love for the U.S. eh?

India's Caste System

 

[alchemize]

Funny, I don't see Heinz on there...I'm pretty sure they offshore, we'll ask Kerry.

You're screwed if you want healthcare...

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I think the concept is interesting but at least a touch misguided. Sure Cadillac makes the XLR but only the nouveau riche would buy such a vehicle instead of a Jaguar XKR or Aston Martin DB7 Volante. As for the more pedestrian American concerns, WalMart could survive . . . in fact many other business would be competitive with WalMart . . . if WalMart was compelled to use more US-based companies/resources.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Interesting, a guy from here in Atlanta has started this site, actually Marietta Georgia is a suburb of Atlanta Northwest of the city and the Home of Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr.

2-14-2004 OnShoreAlternatives

Our Mission:

Offshoring, also called offshore outsourcing, is the practice of firing American workers and exporting their jobs overseas.

We know that this is dangerous for our economy today, and even worse for the future of our children.

We believe consumers should have a choice between buying from companies who offshore and companies who value the Americans, workers and customers and stockholders, who made these companies what they are today.

Our mission is to help you make that choice. WHAT WE DO:

We research companies of each type listed in the Company Types box.

The Companies Researched area shows companies who Offshore and companies we know do not offshore.

We found offshoring companies based on internet sources.

For companies listed as not offshoring we searched the web first for evidence of offshoring, and finding none, we contacted the companies directly for definitive answers that they do not offshore.

If a company replied to us with a refusal to say if they offshore, they appear under "Offshoring" with the words "Refused to Say."

ALL COMPANIES CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEB BY TYPING THE 'COMPANY OR BRAND' IN A SEARCH ENGINE. WHERE WE'RE GOING:

This site is a work in process.

We have started research on hundreds more companies of the types listed.

We expect to hear back from many companies we have contacted.

Every week we will have many companies to add.

We ask anyone who knows of companies that do not offshore to let us know about them.

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

More Companies.

LINKS TO COMPANIES WHO DON'T OFFSHORE.

This site was last updated on 01/22/04. * Company/Brand Codes:
(in the company or brand box)
US = Made in US
U = Union made

That list is so stupid. It unfairly attacks international companies that do buisness all over the world. MS is on the list. Its funny because they add 5-15k new jobs in the US, never laying of 10s of thousdands of people. But because they have offices in other parts of the world making localised products, they are "outsourcing". Give me a break.

All this you call for harkens back to Populism, and Protectionism. Both have failed TIME AND TIME AGAIN. And its quite hilarious because there have been several republicans in the past that ran on a similar populist/protectionist platform, and the democrats and the media, laughed at them and their ideas. Now the democrats are running on the same platform, and they are somehow fighting for the americans.

 

[CanOWorms]

That list is funny since most of the places that don't outsource are pathetic, little companies.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Interesting, a guy from here in Atlanta has started this site, actually Marietta Georgia is a suburb of Atlanta Northwest of the city and the Home of Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr.

2-14-2004 OnShoreAlternatives

Our Mission:

Offshoring, also called offshore outsourcing, is the practice of firing American workers and exporting their jobs overseas.

We know that this is dangerous for our economy today, and even worse for the future of our children.

We believe consumers should have a choice between buying from companies who offshore and companies who value the Americans, workers and customers and stockholders, who made these companies what they are today.

Our mission is to help you make that choice. WHAT WE DO:

We research companies of each type listed in the Company Types box.

The Companies Researched area shows companies who Offshore and companies we know do not offshore.

We found offshoring companies based on internet sources.

For companies listed as not offshoring we searched the web first for evidence of offshoring, and finding none, we contacted the companies directly for definitive answers that they do not offshore.

If a company replied to us with a refusal to say if they offshore, they appear under "Offshoring" with the words "Refused to Say."

ALL COMPANIES CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEB BY TYPING THE 'COMPANY OR BRAND' IN A SEARCH ENGINE. WHERE WE'RE GOING:

This site is a work in process.

We have started research on hundreds more companies of the types listed.

We expect to hear back from many companies we have contacted.

Every week we will have many companies to add.

We ask anyone who knows of companies that do not offshore to let us know about them.

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

More Companies.

LINKS TO COMPANIES WHO DON'T OFFSHORE.

This site was last updated on 01/22/04. * Company/Brand Codes:
(in the company or brand box)
US = Made in US
U = Union made

That list is so stupid. It unfairly attacks international companies that do buisness all over the world. MS is on the list. Its funny because they add 5-15k new jobs in the US, never laying of 10s of thousdands of people. But because they have offices in other parts of the world making localised products, they are "outsourcing". Give me a break.

All this you call for harkens back to Populism, and Protectionism. Both have failed TIME AND TIME AGAIN. And its quite hilarious because there have been several republicans in the past that ran on a similar populist/protectionist platform, and the democrats and the media, laughed at them and their ideas. Now the democrats are running on the same platform, and they are somehow fighting for the americans.

Some of them are definately unfair, because, like you said, some of the companies on there also invest billions into plants and such in the US. However, I find the Harvard one amusing.

 

[PELarson]

Yup... that is why I bought my Mazda 626!

 

[charrison]

Hey Dave are the modems you sell made by a real american company?

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Ah yes, nothing like Communism and the India Caste system.

That's would you would love for the U.S. eh?

India's Caste System

The answer to that particular question, good sir, is for me to know and for you to speculate.

 

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Interesting, a guy from here in Atlanta has started this site, actually Marietta Georgia is a suburb of Atlanta Northwest of the city and the Home of Newt Gingrich and Bob Barr.

2-14-2004 OnShoreAlternatives

Our Mission:

Offshoring, also called offshore outsourcing, is the practice of firing American workers and exporting their jobs overseas.

We know that this is dangerous for our economy today, and even worse for the future of our children.

We believe consumers should have a choice between buying from companies who offshore and companies who value the Americans, workers and customers and stockholders, who made these companies what they are today.

Our mission is to help you make that choice. WHAT WE DO:

We research companies of each type listed in the Company Types box.

The Companies Researched area shows companies who Offshore and companies we know do not offshore.

We found offshoring companies based on internet sources.

For companies listed as not offshoring we searched the web first for evidence of offshoring, and finding none, we contacted the companies directly for definitive answers that they do not offshore.

If a company replied to us with a refusal to say if they offshore, they appear under "Offshoring" with the words "Refused to Say."

ALL COMPANIES CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEB BY TYPING THE 'COMPANY OR BRAND' IN A SEARCH ENGINE. WHERE WE'RE GOING:

This site is a work in process.

We have started research on hundreds more companies of the types listed.

We expect to hear back from many companies we have contacted.

Every week we will have many companies to add.

We ask anyone who knows of companies that do not offshore to let us know about them.

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

More Companies.

LINKS TO COMPANIES WHO DON'T OFFSHORE.

This site was last updated on 01/22/04. * Company/Brand Codes:
(in the company or brand box)
US = Made in US
U = Union made

Oh no Capitalism, everyone run and hide

 

[tallest1]

Thanks for the list. I stopped buying from Walmart since a month or two ago - hopeing to help out the small businesses in town.


Oh on a side note, I noticed this big sticker on my now very-retired (aka. totaled) Gary Fisher bike that read "Made on Earth". Sneaky sneaky

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: charrison
Hey Dave are the modems you sell made by a real american company?

You keep coming back to that well. There is a lot more to the whole picture.

Here is another piece of why they had to let 195 American jobs go last year.

Directly because of American Corporate Corruption in closing what is supposed to be a Free Open Market Society.

I am not going to go into details here but it is the reason I say right in my signature that Americans now have a choice.

A choice the Greedy colluding Telephone Corporate Thugs decided Americans no longer deserved to have just like Americans used to pay rent for their phones, in fact there was a report recently of an old lady that just got the rental fee taken off her phone bill, she paid thousands and thousands for what is a now cheap $5 phone.

Meanwhile over in Europe you can find this American Company Modem on shelves of every store that sells electronics and is the Number One Brand in Europe through REAL competition.

Did you see a DSL Modem on a store shelf here in the U.S.? No of course not, the Telephone Companies shut the Modem Market down simply by telling anyone that wanted to use any other Modem other than the Modem Manufacturer they are in bed with that they do not support any other Modem and you should take your Modem back.

Would you put a product on the shelf that the other end that your customer is trying to hook up tells you it will not work? You buy a phone at Circuit City and the Phone Company tells your customer it won't work because it is not the Western Electric Phone they push, take it back to the store.

So I started to sell the Modems directly to Americans. What are the Giant bloodsucking Phone Companies going to do to me? Nothing. So just 6 months later Retailers like CompUSA, MicroCenter etc say, hey this little guy is selling Modems, that's our business. They pressed back on the Phone Companies and the Phone Co's finally backed down and you now can find the Modems on the store shelves.

In a nutshell I cracked the perverbial door and started getting the American Market open again. They are in fact now selling more DSL Modems than they ever did before in the U.S., in fact if you look at my website right now you will see now out of stock for at least 2 weeks.

I don't work there but I would not be surprised if they are able to hire some of the people they let go, back.

I've said it before and say it again. I am proud of what I accomplished. While not a financial windfall for me it is most certainly a Political Victory for not just me, that Manufacturer but for the American public.

So to answer your question, yes an American Company coming back from fighting corrupt American Greed & Politics. Fighting a War in our own back and frontyard we shouldn't be having to fight.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: charrison
Hey Dave are the modems you sell made by a real american company?

You keep coming back to that well. There is a lot more to the whole picture.

Here is another piece of why they had to let 195 American jobs go last year.

Directly because of American Corporate Corruption in closing what is supposed to be a Free Open Market Society.

I am not going to go into details here but it is the reason I say right in my signature that Americans now have a choice.

A choice the Greedy colluding Telephone Corporate Thugs decided Americans no longer deserved to have just like Americans used to pay rent for their phones, in fact there was a report recently of an old lady that just got the rental fee taken off her phone bill, she paid thousands and thousands for what is a now cheap $5 phone.

Meanwhile over in Europe you can find this American Company Modem on shelves of every store that sells electronics and is the Number One Brand in Europe through REAL competition.

Did you see a DSL Modem on a store shelf here in the U.S.? No of course not, the Telephone Companies shut the Modem Market down simply by telling anyone that wanted to use any other Modem other than the Modem Manufacturer they are in bed with that they do not support any other Modem and you should take your Modem back.

Would you put a product on the shelf that the other end that your customer is trying to hook up tells you it will not work? You buy a phone at Circuit City and the Phone Company tells your customer it won't work because it is not the Western Electric Phone they push, take it back to the store.

So I started to sell the Modems directly to Americans. What are the Giant bloodsucking Phone Companies going to do to me? Nothing. So just 6 months later Retailers like CompUSA, MicroCenter etc say, hey this little guy is selling Modems, that's our business. They pressed back on the Phone Companies and the Phone Co's finally backed down and you now can find the Modems on the store shelves.

In a nutshell I cracked the perverbial door and started getting the American Market open again. They are in fact now selling more DSL Modems than they ever did before in the U.S., in fact if you look at my website right now you will see now out of stock for at least 2 weeks.

I don't work there but I would not be surprised if they are able to hire some of the people they let go, back.

I've said it before and say it again. I am proud of what I accomplished. While not a financial windfall for me it is most certainly a Political Victory for not just me, that Manufacturer but for the American public.

So to answer your question, yes an American Company coming back from fighting corrupt American Greed & Politics. Fighting a War in our own back and frontyard we shouldn't be having to fight.

That is all well and good, but you cant on one hand complain about what imports are doing to this country, and then turn around and be profiting off of them. Seems you want your cake and be able to eat it to.

Obviously you are not bothered enough by cheap labor to find another line of work.

 

[CanOWorms]

I heard Bubba's BBQ Shack down in Mississippi doesn't outsource. Another prominent addition to the list!

 

[daniel1113]

Looks like none of us will be able to fly anymore. After all, Boeing and Lockheed Martin offshore...

I sure hope none of you are wearing Gap clothing, or Hanes, because they offshore too.

No more hot deals from Best Buy either, or Coca Cola. Both offshore.

Might as well stop using a computer right now, too...

You do realize how ridiculous this is, right?

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I heard Bubba's BBQ Shack down in Mississippi doesn't outsource. Another prominent addition to the list!

Not true. It gets shrimp from an offshore source.

 

[Rio Rebel]

In response to daniel's straw person comments:

How remarkably shortsighted. Why don't you just keep burying your head in the sand and belittling any effort to address a VERY REAL problem?

I am a far cry from liberal - I have voted Republican in every election but one (Clinton's first term) since Reagan. I still am leaning toward Bush in this one, since Clark dropped out and there's nobody left among the democrats that I would consider moderate.

All that being said, I am extremely concerned about the fact that the Republicans are ignoring this horrible threat to our workforce (much like the democrats being just as shortsighted about the pharmaceutical industry). We are not talking about undesirable jobs being lost, or companies having "overseas offices". We are talking about companies profiting predominantly on American markets, benefitting from American patent protections and other advantages, and in every way calling themselves an American company, yet outsourcing their work to India to avoid paying fair labor costs.

Here's the most ridiculous of all - you have American pharmaceutical companies begging the American people to accept paying far more than their fair share of the cost of drug research, and fighting tooth and nail to disallow re-importation of drugs from other countries (which have fixed prices), but then turning around and outsourcing their entire IT department to India. Are they American companies or not? They want all the benefits and protections of being an American company, but they want to screw the people they sell to, by giving their high-paying, white collar IT jobs to someone in India willing to make $6,000 a year.

It is disgusting, and no amount of Republican sheep spinning this will make it right.

 

[A5]

Free Open Market Society

From a purely economic perspective, in a market economy, exporting jobs helps the economy because it leaves us more laborers to specialize in things that the US is good at/can do easier than the rest of the world (engineering, design, etc.), rather than things that other places can do for much less money (e.g. manufacturing). This is even beginning to happen in Japan, with them exporting their labor/manufacturing to SE Asia and even Mexico (especially now with NAFTA).

Again, this is just an economic perspective, ignoring political realities as economists are want to do.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
In response to daniel's straw person comments:

How remarkably shortsighted. Why don't you just keep burying your head in the sand and belittling any effort to address a VERY REAL problem?

I am a far cry from liberal - I have voted Republican in every election but one (Clinton's first term) since Reagan. I still am leaning toward Bush in this one, since Clark dropped out and there's nobody left among the democrats that I would consider moderate.

All that being said, I am extremely concerned about the fact that the Republicans are ignoring this horrible threat to our workforce (much like the democrats being just as shortsighted about the pharmaceutical industry). We are not talking about undesirable jobs being lost, or companies having "overseas offices". We are talking about companies profiting predominantly on American markets, benefitting from American patent protections and other advantages, and in every way calling themselves an American company, yet outsourcing their work to India to avoid paying fair labor costs.

Here's the most ridiculous of all - you have American pharmaceutical companies begging the American people to accept paying far more than their fair share of the cost of drug research, and fighting tooth and nail to disallow re-importation of drugs from other countries (which have fixed prices), but then turning around and outsourcing their entire IT department to India. Are they American companies or not? They want all the benefits and protections of being an American company, but they want to screw the people they sell to, by giving their high-paying, white collar IT jobs to someone in India willing to make $6,000 a year.

It is disgusting, and no amount of Republican sheep spinning this will make it right.

And refusing to buy these products is going to solve the problem? Good plan...

 

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
In response to daniel's straw person comments:

How remarkably shortsighted. Why don't you just keep burying your head in the sand and belittling any effort to address a VERY REAL problem?

I am a far cry from liberal - I have voted Republican in every election but one (Clinton's first term) since Reagan. I still am leaning toward Bush in this one, since Clark dropped out and there's nobody left among the democrats that I would consider moderate.

All that being said, I am extremely concerned about the fact that the Republicans are ignoring this horrible threat to our workforce (much like the democrats being just as shortsighted about the pharmaceutical industry). We are not talking about undesirable jobs being lost, or companies having "overseas offices". We are talking about companies profiting predominantly on American markets, benefitting from American patent protections and other advantages, and in every way calling themselves an American company, yet outsourcing their work to India to avoid paying fair labor costs.

Here's the most ridiculous of all - you have American pharmaceutical companies begging the American people to accept paying far more than their fair share of the cost of drug research, and fighting tooth and nail to disallow re-importation of drugs from other countries (which have fixed prices), but then turning around and outsourcing their entire IT department to India. Are they American companies or not? They want all the benefits and protections of being an American company, but they want to screw the people they sell to, by giving their high-paying, white collar IT jobs to someone in India willing to make $6,000 a year.

It is disgusting, and no amount of Republican sheep spinning this will make it right.

And refusing to buy these products is going to solve the problem? Good plan...

Refusing to buy these products is going to make a bunch of idiots feel like they are actually helping out, when they are just going against the foundations of this country.