Buy a 5830 or wait for Fermi?

[The Sauce]

Just put together a new system. Everything except the video card. Running an old 8800 GTS 640MB. Plan on gaming. Not sure about 3D yet. I can definitely wait another month or two for Fermis to come out but will there be a competitively priced one? Will it be worth the wait?

 

[poohbear]

is your 8800gts good enough for the games u play now? if so, wait.

if not, u're only gonna save ~$30 if u wait a 2-3 months. I don't know about u, but i spend more than $30 on a regular Friday night, so i'd just stay in 1 Friday if it meant that much to me.

 

[happy medium]

We don't know the price of Fermi, but we know the prices of all cards will go down especially when Nvidia launches Fermi.

I can tell you that the gtx 360 will be faster then the 5850, so expect prices over 300$.
GTx 380 should be over 400$. Thats just common sense guessing.

If you don't want to spend over 300$ for a card, buy a 5830 now and if you can, another one later. If you have a crossfire board.

A 5830 will be 2x your gts 640 easy.

 

[blanketyblank]

Did you mean to say 5850? Cause I don't know where you can get a 5830 now. Besides that point I don't see any reviews or benchmarks for one either so probably not a wise idea to buy one without knowing how well it performs.

 

[jaggerwild]

You should wait and pay more for a FERMI as Nvidia will need your money!

 

[PCboy]

You should wait and pay more for a FERMI as Nvidia will need your money!

I was waiting for a punchline

 

[RaistlinZ]

I was waiting for a punchline

All your cash are belong to them? :awe:

 

[Qbah]

All your cash are belong to them? :awe:

Good one

Anyway, no reviews on either a HD5830 or any of the Fermi models so your guess is as good as anyone's. Unless they're privy to performance numbers for both cards

But if the rumors are true and a GF100 aka "GTX360" is faster than a HD5870 then I'd say it should be just a tad slower than two HD5830's in CrossFire.

 

[RaistlinZ]

Wait at least two weeks for reviews of the 5830 to surface, and if they perform like they're supposed to nab one. I really hope Nvidia releases a FERMI card in the $300 range to put price pressure on the 5800 series.

 

[The Sauce]

Wait at least two weeks for reviews of the 5830 to surface, and if they perform like they're supposed to nab one. I really hope Nvidia releases a FERMI card in the $300 range to put price pressure on the 5800 series.

This sounds like advice I can get behind. I agree the Fermis will be too costly when they arrive and I don't want to spend that much. On the other hand, waiting from them to come out to cash in on the $20-$30 drop in 58xx's is not worth it either. I spend $150 at the grocery store these days for Pete's sake.

PS - TODAY IS OFFICIAL 5830 RELEASE DATE!

 

[aclim]

Its looking like summer for "mainstream" fermi cards to release. Id say grab a 5850 and be happy with that, unless you want to wait. I ordered my 5850 this past week because I just cant wait any longer for nvidia. Too many games releasing that I want to play max!

 

[happy medium]

This sounds like advice I can get behind. I agree the Fermis will be too costly when they arrive and I don't want to spend that much. On the other hand, waiting from them to come out to cash in on the $20-$30 drop in 58xx's is not worth it either. I spend $150 at the grocery store these days for Pete's sake.

PS - TODAY IS OFFICIAL 5830 RELEASE DATE!

The first release date was the 25th ,but then I heard rumurs of the 5th of Feb.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

forget that nvidia crap, they've been doing crap for the past 2 years renaming the g92.
they forgot how to build video cards. Just buy the 5850 now and be done with it. how much is the time worth that you get to play all your games instead of waiting for the latest from nv?

 

[RaistlinZ]

At least hold out until Feb 5th to see how closely the 5830 comes to the 5850, then just choose one of the two. I was an advocate for running two 5830's in CrossFire right off the bat, but that was when I thought the MSRP would be $200, not $240.

I would think 5830x2 would spank a 5870 quite handily. For ~$400 it would be worth it. For ~$500, not so much.

 

[poohbear]

Did you mean to say 5850? Cause I don't know where you can get a 5830 now. Besides that point I don't see any reviews or benchmarks for one either so probably not a wise idea to buy one without knowing how well it performs.

lol dude why would u even bother to post if u don't know the product the OP is talking about?

 

[blanketyblank]

lol dude why would u even bother to post if u don't know the product the OP is talking about?

I know what a 5830 is. I just don't know if the OP was confused or not since it seemed like he was going to buy now. If he was buying now it wouldn't make sense that he was talking about a 5830 since I haven't seen them on sale anywhere and there aren't even any reviews on it. As such I was just making sure the OP didn't mean a 5850 which is what he could be buying now.

 

[Mona2010]

You better wait for about 1 or 2 months until the new version coming.

 

[PingviN]

Fermi might be a killer, but I doubt that Nvidia will have anything competing with AMD at less than $350 (if that). HD5830 will probably not have a Fermi competitor for a couple of more months, so it's HD5830 or rebranded G92.

 

[Ares202]

fermi will launch at $350 and above, anything else would be suicide as far as profit is concerned

 

[Rifter]

fermi will launch at $350 and above, anything else would be suicide as far as profit is concerned

Yeah, im expecting $399 if it can't beat a 5870, or $599 if it can.

 

[Acanthus]

Yeah, im expecting $399 if it can't beat a 5870, or $599 if it can.

It will be faster than the 5870. It would be an abomination if it didn't.

The chip is far too large to go sub-$350, even the value version.

 

[v8envy]

It will be faster than the 5870. It would be an abomination if it didn't.

The chip is far too large to go sub-$350, even the value version.

Keep in mind Fermi is meant first and foremost a product for the high performance computing market. The only reason you're getting it as a gaming card is: nv needs high volumes to keep the HPC part pricing "reasonable." Volumes which can only come from a mass market part.

There's a lot of silicon there for GPU compute which doesn't necessarily mean great performance in current or shortly upcoming titles.

From what we've seen the GF100 should do very, very well with complex geometry and tessellation. But I'm just saying, don't be too surprised if the lead over the current cards is minimal or even negative in some instances. We'd already have a $600-800 halo card if there was an indisputable lead over the 5xxx series with the A2 spin.

 

[Rezist]

I expect the GTX360 to be as fast as a 5870 and priced higher. Ditto with the GTX380 faster yet and priced higher still.

Really nothing new in the nV line up to go against the 5830.

 

[Leyawiin]

is your 8800gts good enough for the games u play now? if so, wait.

This is the sensible statement regardless what cards are on the horizon.

 

[stag3]

i had an 8800gts g92
but wanted an upgrade for mw2, world of diff for me as i play 1920x1200