Buy 8rda+, 2100+ at newegg.What memory and fan??

[pebe]

Hello everyone!
I'm going to order a 8rda+ and a 2100+ and a slk 800a from newegg.
But I dont know what to choose from:
1. Memory, was thinking about 2x256 geil 3500 up, is it better whit one stick 512 or another memory?
2. Which fan to go with the slk 800? was thinking about a thermo controlled but leaning towards a nexus multifunction panel and a heavy fan
3. round cables, are there any of them to avoid? is it better to have burner and cdrom on one cable each?
4. radio controlled mini cars they say 5$ of when you buy memory but they still show up at 12$
Thats it for now
Grateful for help
thanx

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: pebe
Hello everyone!
I'm going to order a 8rda+ and a 2100+ and a slk 800a from newegg.
But I dont know what to choose from:
1. Memory, was thinking about 2x256 geil 3500 up, is it better whit one stick 512 or another memory?
2. Which fan to go with the slk 800? was thinking about a thermo controlled but leaning towards a nexus multifunction panel and a heavy fan
3. round cables, are there any of them to avoid? is it better to have burner and cdrom on one cable each?
4. radio controlled mini cars they say 5$ of when you buy memory but they still show up at 12$
Thats it for now
Grateful for help
thanx

1) Whether one stick or two is better is up for debate. The performance difference between SCDDR and DCDDR is small, and usually 2 x 256MB sticks don't OC as well as 1 x 512MB stick. I just bought that board (haven't received it yet) and am using that exact RAM, so you know where my recommendation is.

2) For the fan, I'd suggest this one from Sunon. It's very reasonably quiet and the noise it does make is a low noise rather than the annoying high-pitched whine that some fans have. If you're going to OC, you might want to ask someone that actually HAS that heatsink what they use. They'll know better than I (Swiftech MCX462+).

3) If you can get one that's sheilded, that's better, but I wouldn't say that there is one to avoid. If they don't work, send them back. Mine are just generic rounded cables, but if I had to buy all over again, I'd get sheilded or grounded versions. As far as your burner and CDROM, it only really matters if you're going to be copying a CD that's in your CDROM drive. Honestly, I recommend NOTHING being on the same channel for that, including your boot disk. Others would call this excessive. Honestly, I never use my drives for this, so maybe you'll want to ask that in a different forum.

4) IIRC, Newegg's discounts will show up when you get to the order screen.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: pebe
Hello everyone!
2. Which fan to go with the slk 800? was thinking about a thermo controlled but leaning towards a nexus multifunction panel and a heavy fan

there was a thread at cases and cooling about the nexus failing and causing the processor to burn because the fan didn't work

try a search for it

 

[hoihtah]

actually, i'm looking at a similar configuration
ep-8rda, 2100+, and 512mb

haven't decided on the ram though.

any recommendations?

 

[BigJ]

Top of the line? Corsair CMX256A-3500C2PT 256MB DDR433 PC3500 Memory w/Silver Heat Spreader Retail for 96.50$ a stick shipped Timings: 2-3-3-7-T1

Good ram at a lower price: Kingston HyperX PC3500 88.50$ a stick Timings: 2-4-4-8-1T

Obviously a difference in the timings. You could always go with PC3000 Kingstong HyperX for a stick:
Timings: $61.50 2-3-3-1T

I would stay away from Geil and OCZ. OCZ doesn't need an explanation, and Geil doesn't always run at the speeds its rated for. This is from my personal experience w/ OCZ and Geil, and also a general consensus reached by many of the members on the board.

On average, you'll normally get a 5-9% increase in performance with DC DDR over SC DDR. But if you get PC3500, the memory should NOT be a limitation anyway, considering its rated to do 216mhz SPD. If it is, exchange it, cause you didn't get what you paid for.

 

[tbates757]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078
I would stay away from Geil and OCZ. OCZ doesn't need an explanation, and Geil doesn't always run at the speeds its rated for. This is from my personal experience w/ OCZ and Geil, and also a general consensus reached by many of the members on the board.

Come back to this thread with one negative review for any PC3200 / PC3500 product from either OCZ or GEIL.


Eat your heart out sweety

Enjoy, zealot

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: tbates757

Originally posted by: BigJ2078
I would stay away from Geil and OCZ. OCZ doesn't need an explanation, and Geil doesn't always run at the speeds its rated for. This is from my personal experience w/ OCZ and Geil, and also a general consensus reached by many of the members on the board.

Come back to this thread with one negative review for any PC3200 / PC3500 product from either OCZ or GEIL.


Eat your heart out sweety

Enjoy, zealot

Ask the people on this forum who have gotten burned by OCZ and Geil if I'm a zealot. I've gotten burned on their PC2700, PC3000, and their PC3200 from OCZ, and Geil PC3200. Stuff would not run at its rated speed and timings. Sure if you like running 2.5-5-5-8 on your memory when its supposed to do much more aggressive timings, by all means, stay with OCZ and Geil.

Also, have you any idea that Geil and OCZ pick what memory gets sent to reviewers? Not just, oh, lets just give 'em one out of this batch. It's more like "hmmm, well all these memory modules manage to scrape by, but this once in a million stick was really able to get high. Lets send it to these guys to get a good rating." Maybe you didn't know about this notorious reputation of theirs? Also, remember OCZ setting up hardware sites to review their own memory?

And why do you think Anandtech refused to carry OCZ on its memory pricing guide for the longest time? Do a poll and see how many people got burned by those 2 companies. A zealot? Not by any means. Not gonna get screwed over again by OCZ and Geil? You better believe it.

Few brands I trust anymore when it comes to memory. Crucial, Corsair, Samsung, Mushkin for performance.

Fine, call me a zealot, a fanboy, whatever you want. But until I see your average Joe getting a satisfactory product from these guys, satisfactory to the likes of Crucial and Corsair, my stance holds.

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

my friends geil pc3200 isnt stable past 166ish mhz
memtest86 errors galore

 

[tbates757]

Sorry, I didn't mean to lash out BigJ, well, I mean I did, but I shouldn't have. It just really irratates me when people slam OCZ & Geil based on their old products lines (ie pc2400). Every recent review I have read regarding OCZ & GeIL is outstanding, and they almost always win the PC3200 / PC3500 roundups. Over at xtremesystems forums, some customer got burnt, and then an OCZ rep is a poster on the forum, saw that he bought some bunk pc2400 memory, and ocz sent him a replacement PC3500 memory stick which I thought really showed how they are trying to turn their reputation around.

 

[Shimmishim]

i'd say go with corsair XMS series or with samsung...

i have my pc2700 running at 180 and i've had it up to 188 before at 2.5-3-3-7

 

[pebe]

bgeh that wasnt the multifunction panel
Maybe I shouldn't bother with 2x 256 3500 just buy 2x512 2700 and have the fsb below 200 and rise the multiplier instead??

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: pebe
bgeh that wasnt the multifunction panel
Maybe I shouldn't bother with 2x 256 3500 just buy 2x512 2700 and have the fsb below 200 and rise the multiplier instead??

oh I see
you can do that, but some people have been reporting being limited by their multipliers that can't go over 12.5x
thus limiting your overclock
you will also get higher bandwidth if you overclock

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: pebe
bgeh that wasnt the multifunction panel
Maybe I shouldn't bother with 2x 256 3500 just buy 2x512 2700 and have the fsb below 200 and rise the multiplier instead??

I'll pass on commenting about the memory-maker sidebar , but I chose Corsair TwinX b/c I want to leave no doubt it'll do as advertised.

As for 2x512 PC2700, you are definitely NOT guaranteed 200FSB with 2 fully populated high-density modules on dual-bank dimms in a dual-channel DDR set-up. Better off spending more now if you want 200FSB and have a reason for a return/exchange rather than expect 200FSB and be met with disappointment (along with PC2700 that may not do more than PC2700 JEDEC specs).

Chiz

Edit: Just reread your post
The 2100+ is unlocked from 13x and below on most mobos, all multis are unlocked in most KT400 and all nForce2 boards. In general, you want faster memory (PC3200 to PC3500) if you have the low multis, or a higher multi if you have slower memory (PC2100). PC2700 will give you some nice flexibility at 13x, but again, you may not be able to get much more out of it depending on its quality. 13x166 will give you a healthy 2.167ghz, but in order to go into the 2300-2400 range, you're memory will need to be able to do ~180+. On the other hand, 14 x 166mhz will yield ~2330, and only a slight FSB increase will be necessary to get you to 2400mhz. If that's the case, a 2400+ with the 13.5x and higher multis would be better; otherwise, the lower multis of the 2100+ are clearly more beneficial (as you can keep dropping the multi to suit your FSB). Of course, with the nForce2, none of this should be an issue , but faster RAM will still give you more control over your total frequency, as each increase in FSB will yield a smaller incremental clock increase and raise overral system bandwidth.

 

[pebe]

Ok thanx all!
I think I go with the geil 3500 UP then, 2x256. There is two reasons for not taking corsair, first I read more about people having problem with corsair then geil, second. geil is cheaper
I hope newegg get them in this week