But for me, we'd be in a world-wide depression!

[AgaBoogaBoo]

http://www.breitbart.tv/reid-but-for-me-wed-be-in-world-wide-depression/

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[Craig234]

http://www.breitbart.tv/reid-but-for-me-wed-be-in-world-wide-depression/

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First, you should learn to use the message subject and even the post to actually say what you're talking about. Harry Reid isn't mentioned anywhere.

But this is another 'Gore claimed to invent the internet!' lie from the right.

I criticized Alan Grayson for quoting an opponent out of context for saying the opposite of what he'd said, and Breitbart - the longtime supplier of lies - does almost as bad here.

Reid was referring to a HYPOTHETICAL comment he WAS NOT making.

He said it would do not good FOR HIM TO MAKE THAT CLAIM - and it clearly referred to his role in the GOVERNMENT taking actions to avoid economic crash, as a candidate.

As I watched, I suspected Breitbart would close with an edited version that left out the 'it would do no good for me to say' part in front and leave just the later part, to mislead viewers in what they remembered him saying, just as Gore's attackers changed his words to fit their lie, 'I invented the internet!', and Breitbart did exactly the edit.

Reid was saying it would not be a good idea for him to say that. He didn't say it.

And when a candidate is campaigning, it's not uncommon for him to speak of his votes as doing what the vote did. If he says 'I chose to stop insurance companies from turning down people with pre-existing conditions', he means he voted for a bill to do that, obviously, not that he went to their offices and stole the forms.

But are you one of those who will fall for the propaganda lies? You are so far.

 

[her209]

LOL http://www.breitbart.tv

 

[PeshakJang]

First, you should learn to use the message subject and even the post to actually say what you're talking about. Harry Reid isn't mentioned anywhere.

But this is another 'Gore claimed to invent the internet!' lie from the right.

I criticized Alan Grayson for quoting an opponent out of context for saying the opposite of what he'd said, and Breitbart - the longtime supplier of lies - does almost as bad here.

Reid was referring to a HYPOTHETICAL comment he WAS NOT making.

He said it would do not good FOR HIM TO MAKE THAT CLAIM - and it clearly referred to his role in the GOVERNMENT taking actions to avoid economic crash, as a candidate.

As I watched, I suspected Breitbart would close with an edited version that left out the 'it would do no good for me to say' part in front and leave just the later part, to mislead viewers in what they remembered him saying, just as Gore's attackers changed his words to fit their lie, 'I invented the internet!', and Breitbart did exactly the edit.

Reid was saying it would not be a good idea for him to say that. He didn't say it.

And when a candidate is campaigning, it's not uncommon for him to speak of his votes as doing what the vote did. If he says 'I chose to stop insurance companies from turning down people with pre-existing conditions', he means he voted for a bill to do that, obviously, not that he went to their offices and stole the forms.

But are you one of those who will fall for the propaganda lies? You are so far.

Here's the full video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk9yY_57s0s

About 3:00 mark is where that particular exchange comes.

It's pretty clear it wasn't meant as a hypothetical... he says it like "It doesn't matter if I tell them that I prevented a worldwide depression, they want to do know what I have done for THEM".

Nice try to spin it though... but it's pretty clear that you're wrong. If you have an ounce of intellectual honestly, you'll see that.

 

[theeedude]

That is true, if we had GOP senate, no stimulus, economic collapse.

 

[theeedude]

Plus he was saying it as a hypothetical phrase he would say. Talk about lack of context.

 

[Craig234]

Oh by the way, in addition to the usual way candidates refer to their votes as things they did, the stimulus passed with zero votes to spare - 60, to end the filibuster.

So every one of those 60 votes can say that if not for their vote for the stimulus, it would not have passed, and take credit - good or bad - for the stimulus passing.

Saying 'if not for me, the stimulus would not have passed' is an accurate statement for these Senators, and if they are claiming the stimulus prevented a larger crash, then they can say 'if not for me, the economy would have crashed without the stimulus', as their opinion.

Do our righties really need it explained to them that Reid's point was that things are still not good, and that politically just saying that they'd be even worse without the measures he supported isn't enough, he has to do more for them? Sadly, it seems they do. This site is trash propaganda for the candidate of the wealthy.

 

[boomerang]

Harry Reid, isn't he one of those rich old white men?

 

[Sinsear]

Harry Reid, isn't he one of those rich old white men?

But he's not bitter, clinging to guns and religion...

 

[werepossum]

It certainly looks like he meant it literally, as an example of voters never being satisfied and being too stupid or selfish to recognize his electrifying almightiness even though he's just singlehandedly saved the world. But it could also be just a badly worded complaint about voters caring only about themselves, not about the larger world. That would be a politically stupid thing to say, but not completely untrue.

Reid's reply (from ABC News):

Reid spokesman Jon Summers replied:

"It's clear that Sen. Reid was making the point that he gets how people are struggling and that long explanations about policy aren't what they are looking for, but that we have passed policies that have prevented a bad situation from becoming worse."

That's a completely nonsensical response, but it certainly supports the contention that he intentionally claimed that he had saved the world. But it doesn't definitely tell us if Reid really thinks he saved the world from a world-wide depression (a position with obvious support from the usual suspects to judge from ATP&N), or if he meant it as a hypothetical comment about the venality of his constituents and realizes that pointing this out would be even more stupid than saying it originally. We may never know for sure, so unless he repeats this claim I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he just had a brain fart and accidentally let his natural progressive disdain for the voters shine through.

 

[sactoking]

I think Reid is pretty much a worthless turd sandwich but I don't see how this can be taken as literal.

i went to Foxnews.com, figuring they'd give me the most biased view possible. Reid's quote:

We were at the top and we've fallen very hard. So people have been hurting, and I understand that, and it doesn't give them comfort or solace for me to tell them, you know, but for me we'd be in a worldwide depression.

That makes it sound like a literal statement: Nevadans don't care that he saved the world.

Put in context though, the rest of the quote shows it is not literal:

We were at the top and we've fallen very hard. So people have been hurting, and I understand that, and it doesn't give them comfort or solace for me to tell them, you know, but for me we'd be in a worldwide depression. They want to know what I've done for them, and that's why it's important for me, any chance I get, to say that my number one job is to create jobs.

That second sentence makes it pretty apparent that his point was "I can tell Nevadans I'm Jesus Christ reincarnated and they're going to say: 'Well, what have you done for me lately?'."

The gist is that he could have literally saved the world but so long as Nevada has the highest unemployment in the country (and climbing in Clark County...) Nevadans aren't going to care. He is showing his frustration that any positive campaigning he does on his national accomplishments is lost on Nevadans. What he doesn't get is that Nevadans feel that he has no interest in representing them anymore and that he should be doing a hell of a lot more for his constituents and a hell of a lot less for his buddies on the Hill.

 

[BoberFett]

Eh, it's what every politicians does best. Manufacture crises so they can "save the world."

 

[Jhhnn]

Contrived outrage and deliberate quoting out of context on the Right... Breitbart doing what he does best.

So, uhh, what's new? Anything?

 

[Jiggz]

It's called Al Gore Syndrome! Keep raising the bar and level of personal accomplishment even though no one believes it including yourself.