Busting Flu Vaccine Myths and Misconceptions

Amused

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Flu Vaccine Myths, Misconceptions

By Anita Manning, USA TODAY

(Sept. 26) -- Flu shots can't cause the flu. But this is perhaps the most persistent of the myths about flu vaccine, experts say.

The viruses in flu shots are dead. In the nasal spray vaccine FluMist, they're live, but weakened and unable to grow in the lungs and cause illness.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends flu vaccine for more than 238 million of the USA's 300 million citizens, including children 6 months to 5 years old; pregnant women; people age 50 or older; and anyone with a chronic medical condition such as asthma or diabetes. It is also recommended for health care workers and people who live with anyone in those risk groups.

After getting a flu vaccine, many people experience symptoms such as a runny nose or achiness for a day or so. That means the immune system is responding, and it's a good sign, says Neil Schachter, a lung specialist at Mount Sinai Medical Center, and author of The Good Doctor's Guide to Colds & Flu (Collins, $14.95). "It means your body is processing this material (in the vaccine), but it's not flu."

Among other vaccine myths:

--I was vaccinated and got the flu anyway. Flu vaccine prevents influenza, not illnesses caused by other germs, says epidemiologist Kathleen Gensheimer of the Maine Department of Health and Human Services. "What people don't understand is there are multiple respiratory viruses out there," Gensheimer says. But, she says, "it's not impossible to get the vaccine and still get flu." In years when it is well-matched to the flu viruses in circulation, the vaccine is 70% to 80% effective in healthy adults, less in older people.

Flu vaccine takes about two weeks to become fully effective, so people exposed to flu during that window may become sick. But even when it doesn't prevent infection with flu, Gensheimer says, it does reduce the risk of severe flu complications.

--I've never had flu, so I don't need a shot. About 20% of the population catches flu each year; nobody is completely immune, the CDC says.

--The flu shot causes side effects. Flu vaccine is very safe and is given to millions of people each year. Some people get soreness at the injection site or experience mild flu-like symptoms, caused by the body's immune system responding and building up to protect against infection with the real thing. These symptoms usually last a day or two.

--I'm not getting a flu shot because I'm pregnant. The physical effects of pregnancy put women at risk for serious complications of flu, and studies have found no harmful effects on the fetus associated with flu vaccine. The CDC says women who are at any stage of pregnancy during flu season should be immunized.
 

moshquerade

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do you get a flu shot every year?

last year i didn't, because of the shortage. i'm a strong healthy young adult. the flu most likely wouldn't kill me compared to the very young and the old.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
do you get a flu shot every year?

last year i didn't, because of the shortage. i'm a strong healthy young adult. the flu most likely wouldn't kill me compared to the very young and the old.

Yep, I sure do. It beats getting the flu.

And the shortage wasn't last year, it was the year before.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: moshquerade
do you get a flu shot every year?

last year i didn't, because of the shortage. i'm a strong healthy young adult. the flu most likely wouldn't kill me compared to the very young and the old.

Yep, I sure do. It beats getting the flu.

And the shortage wasn't last year, it was the year before.


I am immune
 

Gibsons

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I skip the shot pretty often because I get the flu-like side effects (fever, headache, loss of appetite) in a major way. Might get it this year considering the crowded conditions I work in.
 

lokiju

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I've never taken it and am not going to start either.

Humans have made it this far without it.
 

waggy

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i used to get it. but every time i have gotten the flu shot i ended up sick. When i don't get it i am fine.

 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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I don't take the shots. I haven't even been sick in about 15 years, except for food poisoning in 1997 that almost killed me. DAMN YOU ISLAND'S IN MONTCLAIR!!!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: lokiju
I've never taken it and am not going to start either.

Humans have made it this far without it.

Meanwhile, the spread of the flu kills tens of thousands of elderly, immune deficient and young each year and hospitalizes hundreds of thousands.

There is no reason to spread a virus if you don't have to. Just because your body can handle it does not mean those you spread it to can.
 

vi edit

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I will...but then again I'm in hospitals pretty regularly where there are high levels of sick people and people with weak immune systems that don't need anyone else trying to spread the flu.
 

sygyzy

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Here's another misconception - Most of the time when you are sick, you have a cold, NOT the flu. The flu, or influenza, often is a hospital trip worthy infection. I always get a laugh when people ask me "I heard you were sick. What do you have? A cold?" No s#$#$ it's a cold. If it was a flu, I wouldn't be here.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: Amused
Flu Vaccine Myths, Misconceptions

By Anita Manning, USA TODAY

(Sept. 26) -- Flu shots can't cause the flu. But this is perhaps the most persistent of the myths about flu vaccine, experts say.

The viruses in flu shots are dead. In the nasal spray vaccine FluMist, they're live, but weakened and unable to grow in the lungs and cause illness.


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends flu vaccine for more than 238 million of the USA's 300 million citizens, including children 6 months to 5 years old; pregnant women; people age 50 or older; and anyone with a chronic medical condition such as asthma or diabetes. It is also recommended for health care workers and people who live with anyone in those risk groups.

After getting a flu vaccine, many people experience symptoms such as a runny nose or achiness for a day or so. That means the immune system is responding, and it's a good sign, says Neil Schachter, a lung specialist at Mount Sinai Medical Center, and author of The Good Doctor's Guide to Colds & Flu (Collins, $14.95). "It means your body is processing this material (in the vaccine), but it's not flu."

Among other vaccine myths:

--I was vaccinated and got the flu anyway. Flu vaccine prevents influenza, not illnesses caused by other germs, says epidemiologist Kathleen Gensheimer of the Maine Department of Health and Human Services. "What people don't understand is there are multiple respiratory viruses out there," Gensheimer says. But, she says, "it's not impossible to get the vaccine and still get flu." In years when it is well-matched to the flu viruses in circulation, the vaccine is 70% to 80% effective in healthy adults, less in older people.

Flu vaccine takes about two weeks to become fully effective, so people exposed to flu during that window may become sick. But even when it doesn't prevent infection with flu, Gensheimer says, it does reduce the risk of severe flu complications.

--I've never had flu, so I don't need a shot. About 20% of the population catches flu each year; nobody is completely immune, the CDC says.

--The flu shot causes side effects. Flu vaccine is very safe and is given to millions of people each year. Some people get soreness at the injection site or experience mild flu-like symptoms, caused by the body's immune system responding and building up to protect against infection with the real thing. These symptoms usually last a day or two.

--I'm not getting a flu shot because I'm pregnant. The physical effects of pregnancy put women at risk for serious complications of flu, and studies have found no harmful effects on the fetus associated with flu vaccine. The CDC says women who are at any stage of pregnancy during flu season should be immunized.


Virii are not dead or weakened... since they were "never alive" to begin with.
Its just a piece of complex DNA, there are no life processes.
The correct description would be they have been inactivated or genetically altered, so that they are harmless, but still illicit the desired immuno responce.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sao123

Virii are not dead or weakened... since they were "never alive" to begin with.
Its just a piece of complex DNA, there are no life processes.
The correct description would be they have been inactivated or genetically altered, so that they are harmless, but still illicit the desired immuno responce.

Get too technical and you'll lose the layman. For all intents and purposes, their wording gets the point across.
 

Thraxen

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The company I used to work for gave out flu shots for free. A company nurse would come to our building one day and gives shots to anyone that wanted one. One year I got the shot, but on pretty much every other year I was out of town on business. So most of the time I never bothered to get one. I'm with a different company this year, not sure if they do the same thing or not. If not, it's unlikely I'll get a shot.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Here's another misconception - Most of the time when you are sick, you have a cold, NOT the flu. The flu, or influenza, often is a hospital trip worthy infection. I always get a laugh when people ask me "I heard you were sick. What do you have? A cold?" No s#$#$ it's a cold. If it was a flu, I wouldn't be here.


Most often a upper sinus infection or fall allergies are mistaken for the common cold. This is a bacteria infection and is treatable with antibiotics.

People often refer to an illness with vomiting as the flu... This sickness is usually gastroenteritis as a result of an stomach / intestine virus. Influenza is actually an infection of the respiratory system, and rarely involes vomiting.



 

dullard

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Originally posted by: sao123
Virii are not dead or weakened... since they were "never alive" to begin with.
Its just a piece of complex DNA, there are no life processes.
True.
The correct description would be they have been inactivated or genetically altered, so that they are harmless, but still illicit the desired immuno responce.
Flu vaccines should be just the protein shell of the flu virus without DNA (called a virus like particle or VLP). The protein shell is what your immune system must respond to, as it makes the antibodies.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Here's another misconception - Most of the time when you are sick, you have a cold, NOT the flu. The flu, or influenza, often is a hospital trip worthy infection. I always get a laugh when people ask me "I heard you were sick. What do you have? A cold?" No s#$#$ it's a cold. If it was a flu, I wouldn't be here.


Most often a upper sinus infection or fall allergies are mistaken for the common cold. This is a bacteria infection and is treatable with antibiotics.

People often refer to an illness with vomiting as the flu... This sickness is usually gastroenteritis as a result of an stomach / intestine virus. Influenza is actually an infection of the respiratory system, and rarely involes vomiting.

And a great many "stomach flus" are, in reality, mild food poisoning.
 

TraumaRN

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I ALWAYS get mine. I work at an inner city trauma hospital. It would do me and my patients very well to get it. And it's free from the hospital. So of course I get it.
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Here's another misconception - Most of the time when you are sick, you have a cold, NOT the flu. The flu, or influenza, often is a hospital trip worthy infection. I always get a laugh when people ask me "I heard you were sick. What do you have? A cold?" No s#$#$ it's a cold. If it was a flu, I wouldn't be here.


Most often a upper sinus infection or fall allergies are mistaken for the common cold. This is a bacteria infection and is treatable with antibiotics.

People often refer to an illness with vomiting as the flu... This sickness is usually gastroenteritis as a result of an stomach / intestine virus. Influenza is actually an infection of the respiratory system, and rarely involes vomiting.

And a great many "stomach flus" are, in reality, mild food poisoning.

Thanks fellas. In short, if you are sick, it's probably not the flu.