Busted Bars Suing Underage Drinkers
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Although I have some friends who're underage, and they have fakes so we can go out together... I think this is probably fair. Maybe not 3k each, but enough that makes people think twice.
Sounds good to me.
In the 7 months I've lived in Indiana, one thing is evident. They are VERY tough on alcohol related offenses. You can't even enter a liquor store if you're under 21 here.
Back in may we stopped in an applebeas before the movie we were going to see started for some drinks. Two of us, we both order a margarita, THREE different people checked our ID's before we got out drinks. Apparently in a city about 45 miles away applebeas had been busted for selling alcohol to minors, so they were being extra vigilant.
In the 7 months I've lived in Indiana, one thing is evident. They are VERY tough on alcohol related offenses. You can't even enter a liquor store if you're under 21 here.
Back in may we stopped in an applebeas before the movie we were going to see started for some drinks. Two of us, we both order a margarita, THREE different people checked our ID's before we got out drinks. Apparently in a city about 45 miles away applebeas had been busted for selling alcohol to minors, so they were being extra vigilant.
Screw those little bastards. If they want to use a fake ID and jeapordize the liqour license of an establishment, then they shouldn't be surprised when the establishment tries to recoup the damages.
Wait until you are 21 to go to bars. Come on, especially if you are in college. It's not like you can't find other places to socially drink. Or maybe ISU is the only college where you can walk down a street at random near the campus and find a party on the weekends.
I'm with the bar owner "kinda". If a few get sneak in with fake id I have no problem with them suing the kids but the fact that 212 were in there shows that it must have been a well known place for slack rules on underage drinking.
This bar seems rather shady.
213 underaged drinkers were caught in this 1 sting. It's not terribly hard to spot fake ids (most are not of high quality) and the machines at doors can tell the difference between most fakes. It seems to me that the establishment allowed underage drinkers but when they got caught are now suing who they can. It doesn't seem that the business did anything worthwhile to prevent this type of fraud and are looking to score a windfall from these students. I could see if it was a handful of people that got through, but 213? Ignorance on the business's part isn't excuse, especially considering the nature of the business.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not siding with the students on this. But the business was happy to admit underage drinkers (and make money off them) as long as they weren't caught. They got caught and don't want to deal with the consequences they brought on themselves.
213 underaged drinkers were caught in this 1 sting. It's not terribly hard to spot fake ids (most are not of high quality) and the machines at doors can tell the difference between most fakes. It seems to me that the establishment allowed underage drinkers but when they got caught are now suing who they can. It doesn't seem that the business did anything worthwhile to prevent this type of fraud and are looking to score a windfall from these students. I could see if it was a handful of people that got through, but 213? Ignorance on the business's part isn't excuse, especially considering the nature of the business.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not siding with the students on this. But the business was happy to admit underage drinkers (and make money off them) as long as they weren't caught. They got caught and don't want to deal with the consequences they brought on themselves.
all my friends are 21 and go to bars without me. Thats life. Its not worth it getting busted with a fake anyway, I'd rather wait the month I have left and go from there. Its not like I can't find enough alcohol to kill an elephant anyway.
Yup, I waited as well.
Had plenty of alcohol around the house whenever I wanted it, but it did suck not being able to go out with people.
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I dont mind it so much. Bars around here are really expensive. You have to pay a cover, then for drinks and most of the time my friends go to multiple bars. I'll save my money for as long as I can thank you. Besides, my friends drink before they go to the bars (walking distance, college town), and sometimes afterwards, so its not like I'm all alone.
I've never been to a bar that had card readers to check. College bar bouncers are usually employees who glance at the date on the ID and let you in. Anytime they're checking ID there's always several people waiting and it's to the bars advantage to get as many in as quickly as possible.
I can't believe anyone is taking this story at face value. The bar of course is going to say they checked IDs, but when you have over 200 people caught it seems pretty damn shady. The past 50 times or so I have been to bars, I have not been carded once. This includes other states than my own. Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee. Never had an issue with getting carded. I think everyone underage knows what places are lax, and those places KNOW they are lax. This is the largest pile of BS that I have seen shoveled in a while.
The bar owners and the bouncers knew a lot more than they are letting on. People aren't stupid.
This story is just another reason the drinking age should be 18.
The bar owners and the bouncers knew a lot more than they are letting on. People aren't stupid.
This story is just another reason the drinking age should be 18.
what's to stop bars from selling to whoever they want then? if they get busted, they can always sue. seems like a bad precedent to establish.
"This bar seems rather shady." "213 underaged drinkers were caught in this 1 sting."
Yep, sounds like a place I used to buy liquor from when I was in high school.
I remember being in there one friday night seeing a girl by herself at the bar. She was obviously wearing a wig (a bad one at that). She didn't appear to be more than 12 or 13, if that... stitting at the bar and drinking! :Q
At the time, I felt sorry for her. It was a sad sight to see.
But 213 underaged drinkers is WAY too many to get caught with. They should have the place shut down.
Yep, sounds like a place I used to buy liquor from when I was in high school.
I remember being in there one friday night seeing a girl by herself at the bar. She was obviously wearing a wig (a bad one at that). She didn't appear to be more than 12 or 13, if that... stitting at the bar and drinking! :Q
At the time, I felt sorry for her. It was a sad sight to see.
But 213 underaged drinkers is WAY too many to get caught with. They should have the place shut down.
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That sounds fair. I used a fake ID to get into bars when underaged and it passed even the closest scrutiny by the doormen and bouncers. By todays standards it wasn't even that good a fake, bit it was close enough that you'd need a magnifying glass to notice what was wrong. With color copiers and computers, anyone with a shred of ability can churn out IDs that are completely indistinguishable from the real thing. Why should the bars be held responsible? Hell, the government is changing the money (again) because color copiers make counterfeiting so easy that anyone can do it. How are bars supposed to protect themselves against a kid with a perfect fake? They can't, the onus needs to be placed on the people actually breaking the law.
Yea same reason why all speeding stories are a reason to make the speeding limit 120 mph. Now don't even get me going on the murder or child molestation cases..
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