Business Weeks's World's Best Places to Live -- Cities in Evil Socialist States

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I just found Business Weeks's 2009 list of the best places in the world to live. Guess what? They are cities located in almost exclusively evil socialist states such as Western Europe. (That...that's impossible! We all know that socialism and socialized medicine leads to a societal breakdown and ruin!)

The U.S. had two exotic cities on the list, Honolulu and San Francisco.

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/04/0428_best_places_to_live/index.htm
 

Schadenfroh

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Silly mixed economies, true socialism is where it is at. Checkout all the great locations:

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khon

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Silly mixed economies, true socialism is where it is at. Checkout all the great locations:

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You might went to recheck that. Many of those countries aren't socialist by any stretch of the imagination.
 

yllus

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Can I safely assume it's both hideously expensive and extremely difficult to immigrate to Austria (Vienna) and Switzerland (Zurich and Geneva)? I've been to Auckland in New Zealand and it's both (expensive and impossible to immigrate to).

The fourth city on the list, Vancouver, is Canada's priciest.

Apparently I live in the #15 best city in the world. Go Toronto!
 
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werepossum

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India is Socialist?
India has historically been very socialist. The USA's relationship with Pakistan for instance was based solely on the perceived need to offset Soviet-leaning India. In the last couple decades India has been moving away from socialism though, as the glory of being a dirt-poor socialist hell-hole fades with time. Now India is enthusiastically embracing capitalism with all its warts and is building wealth and breaking down caste barriers, albeit slowly.
 

sunzt

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"India is federation with a parliamentary form of government, governed under the Constitution of India.[51] It is a constitutional republic and representative democracy, "in which majority rule is tempered by minority rights protected by law." Federalism in India defines the power distribution between the center and the states. The government is regulated by a checks and balances defined by Indian Constitution, which serves as the country's supreme legal document."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#Government
 

Genx87

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Europe are socialist states? Which ones? I'd say they are definately tilting towards more state intervention in some of the countries. But mixed economies they are.
 

khon

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_states

It is a list of current and former socialist states. Many of the former ones are still recovering from their previous socialist economies or have experienced total political collapse (like Somalia).

Seems like this is the map you should actually have used:

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And those aren't even communist/socialist, though their rulers claim they are. But then the US isn't really capitalist either.
 
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India has historically been very socialist. The USA's relationship with Pakistan for instance was based solely on the perceived need to offset Soviet-leaning India. In the last couple decades India has been moving away from socialism though, as the glory of being a dirt-poor socialist hell-hole fades with time. Now India is enthusiastically embracing capitalism with all its warts and is building wealth and breaking down caste barriers, albeit slowly.

And pretty soon they too will outsource jobs to other poor socialist nations :p
 

ShawnD1

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Europe are socialist states? Which ones?
Uhhhh all of them? Free healthcare, hardcore pension, hardcore vacation time, hardcore education system, etc.


I'm hoping to eventually land a job in Calgary, #26 on the list. It's a pretty nice town. The transit system is pretty good, but everyone drives way too fucking slow.
 

CanOWorms

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I recall that the factors they use are quite limited. For example, they don't consider weather, suburbia (only look at the city limits rather than the metro area), or discrimination. Discrimination itself would wipe out most of the European cities to Baghdad's level. So I guess Vancouver or Auckland should be #1. Vancouver should be hurt by factoring in weather though.
 

PokerGuy

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How good a city is to live in depends on each person's subjective likes and dislikes. Zurich and Geneva might be great places for some, but I absolutely hated living in Geneva for even a short time. Can't take a pee without paperwork and some bureaucrat approving it.
 

ShawnD1

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I recall that the factors they use are quite limited. For example, they don't consider weather, suburbia (only look at the city limits rather than the metro area), or discrimination. Discrimination itself would wipe out most of the European cities to Baghdad's level. So I guess Vancouver or Auckland should be #1. Vancouver should be hurt by factoring in weather though.
Because Europe is one big pile of racism while the US has no racism at all.
 

Pneumothorax

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Because Europe is one big pile of racism while the US has no racism at all.

I wouldn't say all of Europe, but my wife and I (she's hispanic, I'm Filipino) definately felt discrimination while we were there in multiple countries (France - worst by far, nice country, but the people there are A-holes to brown people, GB, Italy, and Germany) OTOH, my wife and I have been to the "racist" deep south, and we've met the nicest white folk in Missisippi, Alabama, and Georgia.
 

BurnItDwn

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Logic fail.

No shit ...


20% of the population vote for socalist candidates, and thus, the country is must be socalist! If one tiny bit of population "catches" socialism, it spreads and the whole country gets infected with bolshevism and they want to kill americans with nukes and eat our hearts and invade us like in Red Dawn! Red Dawn is based on facts, but there was a big coverup by the secret communist government that controls Obama!