Bush's televised farewell: 'Gratitude'

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: spidey07

I've always liked his speeches. Steadfast and with resolve. You guys can bash him all you want but he did have to make some pretty tough decisions and that's what a leader does.

That's how the Germans felt about Hitler....

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: spidey07
You have to admire his principles and leadership. Great speech. Thank God we had him. God Bless every one of us and the U.S.A.

No you don't.

He stuck to his FLAWED principles. Bush can go F himself, thank you very much.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: spidey07

I've always liked his speeches. Steadfast and with resolve. You guys can bash him all you want but he did have to make some pretty tough decisions and that's what a leader does.

That's how the Germans felt about Hitler....

Probably how the people of every major country involved in world war 2 felt..

Your point

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Dari

Some people I know will be celebrating like it was New Years.

I'll be mourning because it didn't happen years ago, before that piece of shit and his criminal gang started their war of lies broke the nation.

agreed. fuck that asshole and the last 8 years of complete bullshit. i still can't take people seriously who believe we should have invaded iraq

 

[trenchfoot]

I assume he would be true to form, so I'm not watching it based on the fact that 100% of what he has to say are either lies or convoluted doublespeak, exactly as he was trained to do by the conniving cunning twins Cheney and Rove.

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Reckoner

Originally posted by: spidey07
You have to admire his principles and leadership. Great speech. Thank God we had him. God Bless every one of us and the U.S.A.

What have you been smoking? Can I have some?

I've always liked his speeches. Steadfast and with resolve. You guys can bash him all you want but he did have to make some pretty tough decisions and that's what a leader does.

He made tough decisions without looking at the facts, without thinking about the situation, and basically listened to what he wanted to hear. I mean, this is the guy who said that the head of FEMA was doing a great job when New Orleans became America's first lost city. He's the guy who refused to listen to his top generals on the situation in Iraq, because his buddy Dumsfeld said they were wrong. Turns out they were right and vilified for it at the time. It literally took 3 years of doing things the wrong way before Bush finally had enough of it. This is a man who would eat shit if enough yes-men said it tasted like candy.

His entire administration was basically a giant crony machine. Yes-men got promoted, thinkers and dissidents were ostracized and expelled. If you ran a business like how Bush ran the government for the last 8 years, it would have been driven so far into the ground, you'd strike Texas Tea digging the poor bastard out. If Bush made a 100 decisions, 90 of them were just completely wrong in almost every way. He did a few things right, but goddamn, I haven't seen a catastrophe this bad in all my readings of American history. Even the bad old days during the post-Civil War era, the magnitude of fuck-ups never came close to this president's administration.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: BigJelly

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Good riddance.

GroundedSailor just so you know you can keep your sig since it applies to the next president too.

Thanks or the reminder to change my signature in a few days.

 

[Thump553]

Typical bushisms. Lept right into 9/11 first thing after he got done thanking Cheney, et al. Still hung up on this liberty is a gift from god and we are going to force it upon every other country-at the same time as drastically curtailing liberty in the USA.

I don't really care for him but Chris Matthews hit it right on the head in ripping Bush a new one for his wasted years and delusional presidency.

January 20th can't come soon enough. Bush's farewell tour seems like it has gone on longer than Cher's.

 

[zerocool84]

How come we never impeached the guy?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Typical bushisms. Lept right into 9/11 first thing after he got done thanking Cheney, et al. Still hung up on this liberty is a gift from god and we are going to force it upon every other country-at the same time as drastically curtailing liberty in the USA.

I don't really care for him but Chris Matthews hit it right on the head in ripping Bush a new one for his wasted years and delusional presidency.

January 20th can't come soon enough. Bush's farewell tour seems like it has gone on longer than Cher's.

Bush was a God send and took his oath to uphold The Constitution very seriously. I suggest you read it.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
How come we never impeached the guy?

Because there was no case, no charge, no nothing, no high crimes, no nothing.

 

[JSt0rm]

this speech sucks.

Spidey07: There will be no revisionist history on this one. This goose is cooked. you are so far out in left field you are hanging out with like 10% of the population maybe 10%.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
How come we never impeached the guy?

So Cheney can be president? lol.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Bush never admitted mistakes.

He should have knelt down, raised his hands and pleaded for forgiveness for the whole world to see. This would bring a tear to Iran and Russia's eyes and we would all live in peace.

Or he could do what we all do and rationalize his decisions.
I never thought it was a big deal that he didn't admit mistakes.

I want to see results.

I'll give him that we've not been attacked since Sept 11th 2001.
Iraq was botched in the begining and it drained resources from Afghanistan.

Maybe in 20 yrs his presidency will be seen as 50-50 instead of 33-66 good/bad.

Feel free to disagree but please don't insult -- I've a headache

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Reckoner

Originally posted by: spidey07
You have to admire his principles and leadership. Great speech. Thank God we had him. God Bless every one of us and the U.S.A.

What have you been smoking? Can I have some?

I've always liked his speeches. Steadfast and with resolve. You guys can bash him all you want but he did have to make some pretty tough decisions and that's what a leader does.

He made tough decisions without looking at the facts, without thinking about the situation, and basically listened to what he wanted to hear. I mean, this is the guy who said that the head of FEMA was doing a great job when New Orleans became America's first lost city. He's the guy who refused to listen to his top generals on the situation in Iraq, because his buddy Dumsfeld said they were wrong. Turns out they were right and vilified for it at the time. It literally took 3 years of doing things the wrong way before Bush finally had enough of it. This is a man who would eat shit if enough yes-men said it tasted like candy.

His entire administration was basically a giant crony machine. Yes-men got promoted, thinkers and dissidents were ostracized and expelled. If you ran a business like how Bush ran the government for the last 8 years, it would have been driven so far into the ground, you'd strike Texas Tea digging the poor bastard out. If Bush made a 100 decisions, 90 of them were just completely wrong in almost every way. He did a few things right, but goddamn, I haven't seen a catastrophe this bad in all my readings of American history. Even the bad old days during the post-Civil War era, the magnitude of fuck-ups never came close to this president's administration.

Why don't you make us a list of the fuck-ups. It would make good reading.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: zerocool84
How come we never impeached the guy?

Because there was no case, no charge, no nothing, no high crimes, no nothing.

Yes, but there is a forum full of people here that would have done it better.

 

[colonel]

stop saying goodbye, go home loser..

 

[microbial]

Get out of my House!

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Reckoner

Originally posted by: spidey07
You have to admire his principles and leadership. Great speech. Thank God we had him. God Bless every one of us and the U.S.A.

What have you been smoking? Can I have some?

I've always liked his speeches. Steadfast and with resolve. You guys can bash him all you want but he did have to make some pretty tough decisions and that's what a leader does.

He made tough decisions without looking at the facts, without thinking about the situation, and basically listened to what he wanted to hear. I mean, this is the guy who said that the head of FEMA was doing a great job when New Orleans became America's first lost city. He's the guy who refused to listen to his top generals on the situation in Iraq, because his buddy Dumsfeld said they were wrong. Turns out they were right and vilified for it at the time. It literally took 3 years of doing things the wrong way before Bush finally had enough of it. This is a man who would eat shit if enough yes-men said it tasted like candy.

His entire administration was basically a giant crony machine. Yes-men got promoted, thinkers and dissidents were ostracized and expelled. If you ran a business like how Bush ran the government for the last 8 years, it would have been driven so far into the ground, you'd strike Texas Tea digging the poor bastard out. If Bush made a 100 decisions, 90 of them were just completely wrong in almost every way. He did a few things right, but goddamn, I haven't seen a catastrophe this bad in all my readings of American history. Even the bad old days during the post-Civil War era, the magnitude of fuck-ups never came close to this president's administration.

Why don't you make us a list of the fuck-ups. It would make good reading.

Political firings (eg US attorneys)

The Valerie Plume debacle.

Katrina/New Orleans ("No one was prepared for the levees to break" when his own internal assessment said that the levees had a very high probability of breaking).

Lying about WMDs to goad the public into a war.

Labeling dissent as unpatriotic behavior.

Ignoring Afghanistan, which allowed the Taliban to regroup in the South.

Pursuing the same failed strategy for 4 years in Iraq before embracing the generals who called for more boots on the ground (who were branded as unpatriotic, armchair generals who had no idea of the situation on the ground).

Ignoring the building evidence that deregulation was about to come crashing down on the economy.

Doubling the national debt, in part with a massive tax cut directed mainly towards the top 1% of income earners.

Allowed politics to corrupt scientific endeavors. Flat out refused to acknowledge science when it contradicted his ideology.





And that's just what I can think off the top of my head, I'm sure Google has hundreds more, both minor and major.

I mean honestly, what do you think he did right? The only one thing I can think of is that he is fighting AIDS in Africa more diligently than any other President in history. Do you honestly think these last 8 years have been nothing less than a disaster? Do you think his policies have been successful? On any objective level, Bush has been a complete disaster. Honestly, at this point we are talking magnitude. Is he Chicxulub or just Tunguska? Google them if you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[Kanalua]

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[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Kanalua
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