Bush's Medicare scandal: BUSH BROKE 5 FEDERAL LAWS WITH ESTIMATES COVERUP. Republicans stonewalling investigation.

Phokus

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Bush wants to increase the government so badly, he's willing to break laws to put his initiatives through :|

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200406010835.asp

1) 5 U.S.C. § 7211 (Lloyd-LaFollette Act, 1912; Treasury and General Government Appropriations, 2003)

As Lloyd-LaFollette, the Congressional Right to Know Act, reads: "The right of employees, individually or collectively, to petition Congress or a Member of Congress, or to furnish information to either House of Congress, or to a committee or Member thereof, may not be interfered with or denied."

2) 5 U.S.C. § 2302(b)(8) (Whistleblower Protection Act).

As the law clearly states: "This subsection shall not be construed to authorize the withholding of information from the Congress or the taking of any personnel action against an employee who discloses information to the Congress."

The CRS paper, by Legislative Attorney Jack Maskell, amplifies this point: "[E]xecutive agencies and their officers do not have the right to prevent or prohibit their officers or employees, either individually or in association, from presenting information to the United States Congress, its Members or committees, concerning relevant public policy issues."

3) 18 U.S.C. § 1001 (False Statements).

CRS explains: "In addition to criminalizing the giving of knowingly false information to the committees or offices of Congress, the statute also makes criminal the affirmative act of withholding by a 'scheme, trick or device' from such entities, pursuant to such investigation or review, material information which one has an obligation to provide."

4) 18 U.S.C. § 1505 (obstructing a congressional inquiry).

According to CRS: "[A]ctions which purposefully result in the transmission of knowingly false information to the United States Congress, and actions involving the intentional and active prevention of the communication of accurate information to the Congress and derogation of federal law or responsibilities, might in certain circumstances involve activities which constitute violations of federal criminal provisions."

5) 42 USC § 1317 [H. Conf. Rpt. 105 - 217, 105th Cong., 1st Sess. 837 (1997)]

As CRS puts it: "Specifically, the position of Chief Actuary itself has been intentionally given a degree of independence from direct executive control by providing in law for removal only 'for cause,' and by requiring in law that the Actuary exercise 'professional standards of actuarial independence' in carrying out his functions."

Democrats complain most loudly about this outrage. Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians, however, should be at least as furious that federal bureaucrats in a GOP administration used coercion and lies to engineer a $534 billion expansion of the welfare state.
 

Bowfinger

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Hang on. I want to grab some popcorn before I sit back to watch the fan-boys dance. It should be a good show.

;)
 

Ozoned

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With such a hot tip as this, I would expect that this criminal 'Bush' will be charged and in jail by morning, Yes??;)
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
With such a hot tip as this, I would expect that this criminal 'Bush' will be charged and in jail by morning, Yes??;)

Not when his republican buddies are stonewalling. And i tend to believe it when a RIGHTWING RAG like national review are making these allegations ;)
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Hang on. I want to grab some popcorn before I sit back to watch the fan-boys dance. It should be a good show.

;)
How you planning on typing with both hands full??
;)
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Hang on. I want to grab some popcorn before I sit back to watch the fan-boys dance. It should be a good show.

;)
How you planning on typing with both hands full??
;)

Well, you're doing a good job with two hands full of kool-aid, so it might not be an impossible task :)
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Ozoned
With such a hot tip as this, I would expect that this criminal 'Bush' will be charged and in jail by morning, Yes??;)

Not when his republican buddies are stonewalling. And i tend to believe it when a RIGHTWING RAG like national review are making these allegations ;)


Stonewalling buddies?? Bush don't have no buddies, right? Making allegations without formidable proof, Not in this country.

If there is proof that you commit a crime, you get arrested, right?

:confused:
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Hang on. I want to grab some popcorn before I sit back to watch the fan-boys dance. It should be a good show.

;)
How you planning on typing with both hands full??
;)

Well, you're doing a good job with two hands full of kool-aid, so it might not be an impossible task :)


Ayup, coors. Good ole rocky mountain kool-aid..

:)
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Hang on. I want to grab some popcorn before I sit back to watch the fan-boys dance. It should be a good show.

;)
How you planning on typing with both hands full??
;)

Well, you're doing a good job with two hands full of kool-aid, so it might not be an impossible task :)


Ayup, coors. Good ole rocky mountain kool-aid..

:)

Coors? Ewwww, i think they make that out of urine or something. Now Harps, THAT'S a beer. :)
 

Phokus

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Bump for the morning krew. It's already 10 posts, and we haven't heard Cad the kool-aid drinking apologist yet? I'm surprised!
 

Bowmaster

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If there is proof that you commit a crime, you get arrested, right?

Ah, I can see how you are confused. That's only true if you are not a rich Neocon with many many connections.

Of course, if you are a poor black male, proof is not even needed...
 

fwtong

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He's not a criminal, because the nation's #1 prosecutor works for him. Remember, the President is above the law, because he is above the nation's #1 prosecutor.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: fwtong
He's not a criminal, because the nation's #1 prosecutor works for him. Remember, the President is above the law, because he is above the nation's #1 prosecutor.


Well, thank god for articles of impeachment, they have initiated these due to these crimes, yes?

;)
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: fwtong
He's not a criminal, because the nation's #1 prosecutor works for him. Remember, the President is above the law, because he is above the nation's #1 prosecutor.


Well, thank god for articles of impeachment, they have initiated these due to these crimes, yes?

;)

Yeah, but if the republican controlled congress has any say, they'll continue to stonewall.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Well since we have two threads on this I'll post in the original one.

I think this is much ado about nothing. So far it's just allegations yet people here seem to claim it is fact. Note the Title as evidence.

I also want to give a big middle finger salute to those who have taken to taunting - you know who you are;) I will respond to issue I wish to respond to. Posting that a thread is a repost is "issue-free". It also seems that some want to make this into a fight and/or game instead of a "discussion"(which they imply by asking for comments).

CkG