Bush's advisor on Catholics voters, Deal Hudson, resigns over sex scandal

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In January of that year Cara Poppas signed-up for a Hudson philosophy class.

An 18-year-old freshman from Portland, Maine, Poppas had been in-and-out of foster homes from the age of seven. The fourth of nine children, her mother an alcoholic and her father a troubled and disabled Vietnam veteran, Poppas had a difficult childhood.
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On February 15, "Fat Tuesday," Poppas again visited Hudson at his office.

"He was in high spirits, telling me of how he had searched far and wide for the best marguerite [sic] in town," Poppas wrote. Hudson would be meeting a group of NYU students at Tortilla Flats, a popular West Village bar where, according to a current review, "friendly waiters sometimes surprise you with free shots of tequila."

Would Poppas care to join him?

"I was very reluctant," wrote Poppas, who, at age 18, was still three years shy of the legal drinking age. "I knew I would be the youngest, as well as the newcomer to their frequent gatherings," she wrote. "He promised not to tell the others my age. I decided to go."

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"As we grew more and more drunk, stranger and stranger things began to occur," wrote Poppas. Hudson had his arms around two NYU students, said Poppas. "Dr. Hudson was heavily French kissing both girls, alternating from one to the other? ."

One of the NYU students, wrote Poppas, suggested "body shots" -- where "a girl places the salt on her neck, and the lime in her breasts. Then, the guy tastes the salt from the neck, takes the shot, and eats the lime from the girl's cleavage. Dr. Hudson performed a body shot with [one of the NYU students]."
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In the taxi "Dr. Hudson began pulling me close," according to Poppas.

"On the train, he began to feel my breasts outside my sweater and coat. We missed the Fordham stop (I'm not sure whether on purpose or not). We went to his house, he put me in his car, and he went up to tell his wife he was bringing a student back to Fordham."

Once in the car, said Poppas, "Dr. Hudson told me to lay my head on his lap, suggesting fellatio when he unzipped his zipper. I did both. I sat up and said 'Hold on a second, wait just a minute?' He replied 'Yes, let's wait till we get to my office.'"

Background on Hudson
Deal W. Hudson, the publisher of the conservative Roman Catholic journal Crisis and the architect of a Republican effort to court Catholic voters, says he is resigning as an adviser to the Bush campaign because of a Catholic newspaper's investigation into accusations of sexual misconduct involving a female student at a college where he once taught.
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Mr. Hudson, a former Southern Baptist who converted to Catholicism at the age of 34, has been an influential adviser to President Bush and a close friend of the White House political strategist Karl Rove since the late 1990's. Mr. Hudson first caught Mr. Rove's attention by publishing a study in Crisis in 1998 arguing that Republican candidates could make inroads among traditionally Democratic-leaning Catholic voters by focusing on regular churchgoers, a strategy that dovetailed with Mr. Bush's emphasis on "compassionate conservatism."
 

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The bigger the front, the bigger the back. For reference, peruse the life and times of Rush Limbaugh.

I'd love to have an unfettered look at John AssCough's private life. Just a hunch on my part.
 

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Too bad Clinton didn't resign due to his sex adventures.

More from Hudson
At the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandals, Hudson took on Bill Clinton.

"Over and over again, we hear on the talk shows that we shouldn't hold the president to a 'higher standard.' I would argue quite the opposite? . Those who are not willing to bear the burden of these higher standards should not seek office? . After we have stripped away all idealism from offices that bind our culture together -- president, father, husband -- what will be left for us to aspire to? Who will want to sacrifice personal desires for public responsibilities?"

Of his daughter's reactions to the scandal, Hudson wrote that "she is being imbued with the lie that a person's private conduct makes no difference to the execution of their public responsibilities. It's this lie, alive in our culture of death, that has shaped the character of Bill Clinton and encouraged the moral softness in all of us."

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Klixxer

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Originally posted by: villager
Story

In January of that year Cara Poppas signed-up for a Hudson philosophy class.

An 18-year-old freshman from Portland, Maine, Poppas had been in-and-out of foster homes from the age of seven. The fourth of nine children, her mother an alcoholic and her father a troubled and disabled Vietnam veteran, Poppas had a difficult childhood.
....
On February 15, "Fat Tuesday," Poppas again visited Hudson at his office.

"He was in high spirits, telling me of how he had searched far and wide for the best marguerite [sic] in town," Poppas wrote. Hudson would be meeting a group of NYU students at Tortilla Flats, a popular West Village bar where, according to a current review, "friendly waiters sometimes surprise you with free shots of tequila."

Would Poppas care to join him?

"I was very reluctant," wrote Poppas, who, at age 18, was still three years shy of the legal drinking age. "I knew I would be the youngest, as well as the newcomer to their frequent gatherings," she wrote. "He promised not to tell the others my age. I decided to go."

...
"As we grew more and more drunk, stranger and stranger things began to occur," wrote Poppas. Hudson had his arms around two NYU students, said Poppas. "Dr. Hudson was heavily French kissing both girls, alternating from one to the other? ."

One of the NYU students, wrote Poppas, suggested "body shots" -- where "a girl places the salt on her neck, and the lime in her breasts. Then, the guy tastes the salt from the neck, takes the shot, and eats the lime from the girl's cleavage. Dr. Hudson performed a body shot with [one of the NYU students]."
...
In the taxi "Dr. Hudson began pulling me close," according to Poppas.

"On the train, he began to feel my breasts outside my sweater and coat. We missed the Fordham stop (I'm not sure whether on purpose or not). We went to his house, he put me in his car, and he went up to tell his wife he was bringing a student back to Fordham."

Once in the car, said Poppas, "Dr. Hudson told me to lay my head on his lap, suggesting fellatio when he unzipped his zipper. I did both. I sat up and said 'Hold on a second, wait just a minute?' He replied 'Yes, let's wait till we get to my office.'"

Background on Hudson
Deal W. Hudson, the publisher of the conservative Roman Catholic journal Crisis and the architect of a Republican effort to court Catholic voters, says he is resigning as an adviser to the Bush campaign because of a Catholic newspaper's investigation into accusations of sexual misconduct involving a female student at a college where he once taught.
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Mr. Hudson, a former Southern Baptist who converted to Catholicism at the age of 34, has been an influential adviser to President Bush and a close friend of the White House political strategist Karl Rove since the late 1990's. Mr. Hudson first caught Mr. Rove's attention by publishing a study in Crisis in 1998 arguing that Republican candidates could make inroads among traditionally Democratic-leaning Catholic voters by focusing on regular churchgoers, a strategy that dovetailed with Mr. Bush's emphasis on "compassionate conservatism."

Let him, it is between him and his wife, what are you, the moral majority?
 

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Too bad Clinton didn't resign due to his sex adventures.

Too bad Stalin didn't, you have anything more relevant or are you saying "don't vote for Clinton"?

Don't worry, no one will vote for him.
 
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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Too bad Clinton didn't resign due to his sex adventures.

Too bad Stalin didn't, you have anything more relevant or are you saying "don't vote for Clinton"?

Don't worry, no one will vote for him.



The year: 2120. The setting: the commuter's hoverbus in New Los Angeles, Nevada (we lost the old one to the Big Quake of 2081). The topic of conversation: the sex scandal that has has the nation abuzz - President Dan Quayle VII was caught rogering one of his son's fellow Astro Scouts. Predictably, a Republican commuter chimes in, "Clinton was worse - at least the kid isn't fat!"
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Too bad Clinton didn't resign due to his sex adventures.

Too bad Stalin didn't, you have anything more relevant or are you saying "don't vote for Clinton"?

Don't worry, no one will vote for him.



The year: 2120. The setting: the commuter's hoverbus in New Los Angeles, Nevada (we lost the old one to the Big Quake of 2081). The topic of conversation: the sex scandal that has has the nation abuzz - President Dan Quayle VII was caught rogering one of his son's fellow Astro Scouts. Predictably, a Republican commuter chimes in, "Clinton was worse - at least the kid isn't fat!"

LMAO! that is just hilarious! I love it, do you mind if i use it to give some other guys a well deserved laugh?
 
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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Too bad Clinton didn't resign due to his sex adventures.

Too bad Stalin didn't, you have anything more relevant or are you saying "don't vote for Clinton"?

Don't worry, no one will vote for him.



The year: 2120. The setting: the commuter's hoverbus in New Los Angeles, Nevada (we lost the old one to the Big Quake of 2081). The topic of conversation: the sex scandal that has has the nation abuzz - President Dan Quayle VII was caught rogering one of his son's fellow Astro Scouts. Predictably, a Republican commuter chimes in, "Clinton was worse - at least the kid isn't fat!"

LMAO! that is just hilarious! I love it, do you mind if i use it to give some other guys a well deserved laugh?

Knock yourself out.
 
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More from Hudson
At the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandals, Hudson took on Bill Clinton.

"Over and over again, we hear on the talk shows that we shouldn't hold the president to a 'higher standard.' I would argue quite the opposite? . Those who are not willing to bear the burden of these higher standards should not seek office? . After we have stripped away all idealism from offices that bind our culture together -- president, father, husband -- what will be left for us to aspire to? Who will want to sacrifice personal desires for public responsibilities?"

Of his daughter's reactions to the scandal, Hudson wrote that "she is being imbued with the lie that a person's private conduct makes no difference to the execution of their public responsibilities. It's this lie, alive in our culture of death, that has shaped the character of Bill Clinton and encouraged the moral softness in all of us."
Mccain has said the exact same thing more or less. I'll try to find the link; its in his senate testimony during Clinton's impeachment trial.
 
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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous

Mccain has said the exact same thing more or less. I'll try to find the link; its in his senate testimony during Clinton's impeachment trial.

Where's the relevance? Last time I checked, McCain wasn't forced to resign due to sexual misconduct, or involved in any sex scandal whatsoever.
 
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Just to show that someone else (a respected someone else, on this forum anyway), agrees with Hudson on this topic. In any case you are right, it's not really relevant to the topic, so I'll deviate from this discussion.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Too bad Clinton didn't resign due to his sex adventures.

Too bad Stalin didn't, you have anything more relevant or are you saying "don't vote for Clinton"?

Don't worry, no one will vote for him.



The year: 2120. The setting: the commuter's hoverbus in New Los Angeles, Nevada (we lost the old one to the Big Quake of 2081). The topic of conversation: the sex scandal that has has the nation abuzz - President Dan Quayle VII was caught rogering one of his son's fellow Astro Scouts. Predictably, a Republican commuter chimes in, "Clinton was worse - at least the kid isn't fat!"

LMAO! that is just hilarious! I love it, do you mind if i use it to give some other guys a well deserved laugh?

Knock yourself out.

Thank you!
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
More from Hudson
At the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandals, Hudson took on Bill Clinton.

"Over and over again, we hear on the talk shows that we shouldn't hold the president to a 'higher standard.' I would argue quite the opposite? . Those who are not willing to bear the burden of these higher standards should not seek office? . After we have stripped away all idealism from offices that bind our culture together -- president, father, husband -- what will be left for us to aspire to? Who will want to sacrifice personal desires for public responsibilities?"

Of his daughter's reactions to the scandal, Hudson wrote that "she is being imbued with the lie that a person's private conduct makes no difference to the execution of their public responsibilities. It's this lie, alive in our culture of death, that has shaped the character of Bill Clinton and encouraged the moral softness in all of us."
Mccain has said the exact same thing more or less. I'll try to find the link; its in his senate testimony during Clinton's impeachment trial.

Mccain, hmmm. well i will extend it, don't vote for Clinton OR Mccain!

Neither of them are even qualified for presidency nor VP candidates, WTF is your point?

I get it, Bush rocks because those two suck? No, i actually don't get it, explain it to me.
 

tallest1

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Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
More from Hudson
At the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandals, Hudson took on Bill Clinton.

"Over and over again, we hear on the talk shows that we shouldn't hold the president to a 'higher standard.' I would argue quite the opposite? . Those who are not willing to bear the burden of these higher standards should not seek office? . After we have stripped away all idealism from offices that bind our culture together -- president, father, husband -- what will be left for us to aspire to? Who will want to sacrifice personal desires for public responsibilities?"

Of his daughter's reactions to the scandal, Hudson wrote that "she is being imbued with the lie that a person's private conduct makes no difference to the execution of their public responsibilities. It's this lie, alive in our culture of death, that has shaped the character of Bill Clinton and encouraged the moral softness in all of us."
Mccain has said the exact same thing more or less. I'll try to find the link; its in his senate testimony during Clinton's impeachment trial.

If you know of some McCain affair scandal, perhaps your point would be relevant
 

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Originally posted by: tallest1
Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
More from Hudson
At the height of the Monica Lewinsky scandals, Hudson took on Bill Clinton.

"Over and over again, we hear on the talk shows that we shouldn't hold the president to a 'higher standard.' I would argue quite the opposite? . Those who are not willing to bear the burden of these higher standards should not seek office? . After we have stripped away all idealism from offices that bind our culture together -- president, father, husband -- what will be left for us to aspire to? Who will want to sacrifice personal desires for public responsibilities?"

Of his daughter's reactions to the scandal, Hudson wrote that "she is being imbued with the lie that a person's private conduct makes no difference to the execution of their public responsibilities. It's this lie, alive in our culture of death, that has shaped the character of Bill Clinton and encouraged the moral softness in all of us."
Mccain has said the exact same thing more or less. I'll try to find the link; its in his senate testimony during Clinton's impeachment trial.

If you know of some McCain affair scandal, perhaps your point would be relevant
Bush Campaign 2000 made up some . . . I mean they advertised some interesting information about Senator McCain . . .