Will he invade other Muslium countries if elected for a second term? What are the chances of this happening and would you approve or disapprove of the President's choice?
Bush will invade other countries if elected?
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Whitecloak
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Yes, he absolutely will. HE WILL start up the draft as well. They already are using a back-door draft as it is.
I disapprove. Bush must go this November.
btw, did anyone watch the Frontline last night? Wow. I'm even more nervous about Bush now. He's got such a perverted World view.
I disapprove. Bush must go this November.
btw, did anyone watch the Frontline last night? Wow. I'm even more nervous about Bush now. He's got such a perverted World view.
With the Military stretched as thin as it is we cannot grab other Muslim Countries unless the Draft is fired up.
He wants to invade Syria and Iran. But after his mess in Iraq, I doubt he will be able to convince Congress or the American public that it would a good idea.
IHateMyJob2004
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Well, I honestly doubt it. He doesn't have the man power to do so. Iran and N. Korea are issues, but we simply can not invade. We need the UN. This is why we need Kerry. Bush already screwed up big time and hte world will continue to give bush the middle finger if he's in office for 4 more years. Unless FRANCE decideds to build a coalition, we are totally screwed in the middle east! So, it seems we are screwed. Thank You Mr Bush!
Yes, but nowhere near the scale of Iraq.
I'll agree with Conjur's 20 - 30%
Depends on the scale
Link? With many friends around draft age, this concerns me very much
Pliablemoose
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TastesLikeChicken
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Bush could try but the public would no longer back him in such an endeavor which would make it virtually impossible to accomplish. Unless something drastic happened to change public opinion, on a scale even larger than 9/11, it's not going to be. Chance of occurence - less then the possible margin of error to calculate the possibility.
Disapprove.
Disapprove.
Stunt
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I'd be interested to see what would happen if Bush went to war again without the backing of the rest of the world.
Could the first world sanction the US?...The US did this when Iraq invaded Kuwait. Which i find is analogous to the US invasion of Iraq.
The US is heavily dependent on oil imports. Wouldnt take much to punish the US for pointless wars.
Could the first world sanction the US?...The US did this when Iraq invaded Kuwait. Which i find is analogous to the US invasion of Iraq.
The US is heavily dependent on oil imports. Wouldnt take much to punish the US for pointless wars.
I know for a fact that he will be invading Massachusetts, particularly if the BOSOX pull out a miracle. Imagine Boston winning the World Series?! The mind boggles at the thought.... That would be a sure sign that the country is circling the drain. 
-Robert, who still roots for the Indians.
-Robert, who still roots for the Indians.
Hayabusa Rider
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Without the constraint of reelection, Bush is pretty much free to do as he pleases. People supporting the Iraq war action on his position as commander in chief would have to support his right to invade as he pleases.
They may not support the particular action, but would back his right to circumvent Congress. Besides with a Rep. Congress, no one would be able to seriously oppose him.
The only thing lacking is a draft, and with pressure from Cheney on the Congressional leadership, I would expect that a draft is possible. Once the manpower is available, then the sky is the limit. If Congress managed to withstand the pressure from the White House, there are other actions short of war that would magically appear that no one thought of with Iraq.
I would not be surprised to see Bush supporting Israel to attack Iran with promises to block any UN sanctions, and a promise of more aid down the road, and to turn a blind eye (which we are doing anyway) in the Palestinian situation. Again, any UN sanctions would be blocked by us.
At least as likely, we will see a return to the tactics that installed the Shah, Pinochet, and supported Saddam to begin with.
They may not support the particular action, but would back his right to circumvent Congress. Besides with a Rep. Congress, no one would be able to seriously oppose him.
The only thing lacking is a draft, and with pressure from Cheney on the Congressional leadership, I would expect that a draft is possible. Once the manpower is available, then the sky is the limit. If Congress managed to withstand the pressure from the White House, there are other actions short of war that would magically appear that no one thought of with Iraq.
I would not be surprised to see Bush supporting Israel to attack Iran with promises to block any UN sanctions, and a promise of more aid down the road, and to turn a blind eye (which we are doing anyway) in the Palestinian situation. Again, any UN sanctions would be blocked by us.
At least as likely, we will see a return to the tactics that installed the Shah, Pinochet, and supported Saddam to begin with.
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The problem is that sanctioning the US is kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face. The US is so entwined with foreign economies, and foreign economies so entwined with the US, that any sanctions could well have a deleterious effect on the countries levying them and leave them in worse shape than the US itself. It's one of the wonderous side-effects of globalization.
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Not as a long term solution.
The US would be fine on the short term as there are tons of companies who do business beyond american borders. Cash flow would still occur. The only change would be consumer energy prices. Gas and Electricity. With these skyrocketing, the US administration would have no hopes of re-election.
But if you want to start a sanction war...I think the world would win. The US may be the powerhouse in a lot of areas, but the world can survive without it.
By the way i'm am not avocating creating instability in the world. But for rebel leaderships, actions must be taken, just as the US currently does. This is not new policy...just a taste of the exact same thing americans have been doing for years.
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At some level I agree, however there are some countries which would fare well enough. China is getting to the point where it is becoming an economy to itself. No doubt you have noticed that Chinese have been purchasing metals and oil at a fantastically increasing rate. No doubt some of this in anticipation of an eventual conflict. I have every reason that they have their equivalent of a strategic oil reserve, and being less dependent on oil than us, would fare better in the long run.
Twenty years down the road, when we are talking about doing something about the oil problem (once again), China will be sitting in a much better position.
For now, I agree this is not the case, but Americans are not good at looking past the next fiscal quarter, and would rather see us in ruin before paying more in taxes. Of course they would once a crisis is upon us, but by then it's a little late.
I think you are wrong on this. Being the largest economy in the world means if you are cutoff everybody feels the sting. Take a look at our dollar situation. Due to the dollars value falling Europe can not get out of their recession and Asia is feeling it. Imagine if they just up and cut off the US? Full scale depression. This is one of the reasons why nobody has the balls to cut China off from the world eventhough they commit a lot of human right violations.
As for another invasion. This is going to be a tough decision but if Iran doesnt start working with the world then action is going to be needed. We can not let Iran go nuclear. This time however it appears the major nations of the world do not have their hand in the cookie jar and thus have little problem dealing with Iran.
It really all depends on if Iran decides to cooperate or not. But this time I have a feeling the world may want to work on this issue. If we dont then the Isrealis will.
If Presidents could have a 3rd term, then no, he wouldn't invade another country (if elected) but since he'll be on his way out, he'll probably do it with a bang.
So I say 40% he'll invade another country, and yes I'd disapprove
So I say 40% he'll invade another country, and yes I'd disapprove
I'd say about 2% maybe less for an actual invasion.
Bombing somebody? maybe 15% if nothing major happens.
Another 9/11? probly 50% that we will be carpet bombing somewhere, but still no Invasion.
Would I approve? depends who it is and why.
Bombing somebody? maybe 15% if nothing major happens.
Another 9/11? probly 50% that we will be carpet bombing somewhere, but still no Invasion.
Would I approve? depends who it is and why.
If they got some oil, yea he'll invade. Its amazing people are so ignorant to what this seems to be all about. This was his plan all along and he used 9/11 as an excuse.
that just scares me, surrendering authority to a governing body thats worse than our own. I could go as far as saying, lets not go to war without the approval of the democrats in congress (well, except maybe hillary), but the UN, bleh
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