Bush Wants to Create More Jobs, but How?

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LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Since George W. Bush became president, the country has lost 2.7 million payroll jobs. Even the most optimistic White House economists do not believe that so many new jobs can be found between now and January 2005. So this will almost certainly be the first presidential term since Herbert Hoover's in which fewer Americans were at work at the end of the four years than at the beginning, even though other presidents experienced recessions deeper than Mr. Bush's.

This is just an amazing statistic.

How is simple. Shut the borders down and anything comming in get a 100% tarriff slapped on it. Bankers will get pissed initially be we'll all be gainfully employed so screw them. This is how we funded and built this nation from the 1700's until the 1970's from a bunch of broke dirt farmers making nothing, importing everything, into the worlds envy. Now we are liquidating everything. Foreigners own our stock market with the proceeds WE have given to them for thier goods and we are loosing our sovernty and productivity which in bad for your average american and a breech of national security.

My grandson just read this and said.."well.. if we can't be competitive we should learn how... wait a minute... we can't compete against slave labor and we're losing jobs hand over fist.. tell that guy that I think I finally understand.. close all the borders.. hire Buchanan to watch the people who make the tariff and make... why is this happening? This is crazy. Where will I go to work when I graduate... crazy"
I guess he's seen the light.. the force is strong with that boy.. :)

 

Zebo

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Tell him not to worry LR, I make it out worse than it is mainly so people are actually employed in every facet of trades and professions. I believe work and achievment is what makes us happy and nice communities in general. As long as we have the guns and everyone around the globe is so addicted to our worthless dollars we will always have a better standard of living...Working or not. We simply print more money for more goodies and resources. We'll get more jobs when people demand it and get a watered down Buchanan elected.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Tell him not to worry LR, I make it out worse than it is mainly so people are actually employed in every facet of trades and professions. I believe work and achievment is what makes us happy and nice communities in general. As long as we have the guns and everyone around the globe is so addicted to our worthless dollars we will always have a better standard of living...Working or not. We simply print more money for more goodies and resources. We'll get more jobs when people demand it and get a watered down Buchanan elected.
Too dangerous. A watered down Buchanan might grow into a Buccaneer.
 

LunarRay

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Too dangerous. A watered down Buchanan might grow into a Buccaneer

Better than a Bush growing into anything..
 

wirelessenabled

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Wolfdog
yeah having the utilities go out of business because they can't pass resource price increases on would sure help the economy
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There has to be some middle ground. In my area there is going to be both a %40 increase in natural gas prices and a hike in electricity costs. They should be looking for creative ways to shield the consumer. I do find it very odd that they would pick winter to ask/initiate these increases, especially since most houses built in the city are heated by natural gas, not electric. Public utilities are some of the last vestiges of true monopolic power. They really don't have to compete with anyone else here, and haven't a clue how to run thier business. If they did compete, they would surely want to keep thier customers. Since most would abandon ship, and move towards a cheaper alternative.

quite a few generators run on gas. local utilities are very highly regulated. most have set profit margins from the state board regulating them.


As you said utilities are regulated at the state level. Many utilities are interstate in fact. This is where the Feds in the guise of FERC are supposed to step in. We can see what an effective job FERC did reining in the excesses of the likes of Enron, Duke Reliant et al a couple of years ago. Cheney stepped in and let the robber barons do what they pleased. All of us in the West paid the price.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: wirelessenabled


As you said utilities are regulated at the state level. Many utilities are interstate in fact. This is where the Feds in the guise of FERC are supposed to step in. We can see what an effective job FERC did reining in the excesses of the likes of Enron, Duke Reliant et al a couple of years ago. Cheney stepped in and let the robber barons do what they pleased. All of us in the West paid the price.

the rest of the country isn't supposed to bail you out of your own bad decisions.