Bush to allow hunters to kill endangered species

[Amused]

Can we start a dinner club like they did in The Freshman?

<drool> Mmmmmm, endangered species. <drool/>.

 

[Turin39789]

CNN

 

[Zebo]

Bush Sucks but I want a big horn sheep on my wall really bad.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: lirion
A lot of confusion comes from the term "endangered species". For instance all orchids are under CITES 1 protection, even the ones mass produced by the tens of thousands by tissue culture in a lab. A lot of corals are the same way. The term "endagered species" really doesn't mean much anymore, at least in the media. People see "endangered species" on something and freak out.

It doesn't sound like any more killing is going to be taking place. The species affected are in poor countries that are already selling these species to less lucritive markets elsewhere in the world. Opening this pre-existing market to crazy Americans with more money than sense might give these poor countries a new source of revenue and even motivate them to create a renewable market. It's not an open season on all species.

This is something I would have to give a lot of thought before forming an intelligent opinion on, but I don't think it's inherently bad. Exploiting nature is something I hate, but if good can come from it then I think maybe it's worth a shot.

While that is true, some of the animals listed are far more "rare" than the orchid and those class of species.

I agree, but an orchid is not an asian elephant

 

[TommyVercetti]

Good riddance.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Good riddance.

Idiot. :disgust:

 

[Lyfer]

Originally posted by: ROTC1983

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
WHAT THE HELL

That is what I was thinking...

 

[Turin39789]

so how are you sitting around one day and not only come up with this ides, but decide it is actually something worth doing?

 

[Wallydraigle]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: lirion
A lot of confusion comes from the term "endangered species". For instance all orchids are under CITES 1 protection, even the ones mass produced by the tens of thousands by tissue culture in a lab. A lot of corals are the same way. The term "endagered species" really doesn't mean much anymore, at least in the media. People see "endangered species" on something and freak out.

It doesn't sound like any more killing is going to be taking place. The species affected are in poor countries that are already selling these species to less lucritive markets elsewhere in the world. Opening this pre-existing market to crazy Americans with more money than sense might give these poor countries a new source of revenue and even motivate them to create a renewable market. It's not an open season on all species.

This is something I would have to give a lot of thought before forming an intelligent opinion on, but I don't think it's inherently bad. Exploiting nature is something I hate, but if good can come from it then I think maybe it's worth a shot.

While that is true, some of the animals listed are far more "rare" than the orchid and those class of species.

I agree, but an orchid is not an asian elephant

You're quite right, an orchid is not an elephant 😀 It was only an example of why the term "endangered species" doesn't mean a whole lot. I'll use it as an example again. The first orchids to come across the Atlantic to Europe did so in the dark, stuffy boiler rooms of the cargo ships seeking to exploit the New World. Orchids live up among the treetops, where light and wind are plentiful, so not many survived the trip. The ones that did though sparked a new market which today is a multi-billion dollar global business that is entirely renewable. If some entrepreneurial-minded person could do the same thing with the African elephant for the sake of its tusks, wouldn't it be worth it? The reason most of these animals are so rare to begin with is because they are already being poached and sold on the black market. By opening the market I think it's possible to turn some of these animals into lucritive businesses. What's being done to save them now isn't working in most cases. If there's a buck to be made they'll save themselves.

 

[Adul]

bush is a fuggin moron :disgust:

 

[Harvey]

Are terminally stupid, currently sitting presidents considered rare enough to qualify? :disgust:

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Harvey
Are terminally stupid, currently sitting presidents considered rare enough to qualify? :disgust:

In some cultures, I understsand they are considered quite tasty.

 

[Azraele]

I think that idea stinks. :disgust:

 

[Anubis]

i typically stay out of threds like this but this is rediclious. bush just proved to me that he is a compleat moron. looks like i wont be voteing for him this year either

 

[Anubis]

is buch an edangerd species theres only like 10 of them right??? that meanm i can shoot him and mount him on my wall?

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: lirion

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: lirion
A lot of confusion comes from the term "endangered species". For instance all orchids are under CITES 1 protection, even the ones mass produced by the tens of thousands by tissue culture in a lab. A lot of corals are the same way. The term "endagered species" really doesn't mean much anymore, at least in the media. People see "endangered species" on something and freak out.

It doesn't sound like any more killing is going to be taking place. The species affected are in poor countries that are already selling these species to less lucritive markets elsewhere in the world. Opening this pre-existing market to crazy Americans with more money than sense might give these poor countries a new source of revenue and even motivate them to create a renewable market. It's not an open season on all species.

This is something I would have to give a lot of thought before forming an intelligent opinion on, but I don't think it's inherently bad. Exploiting nature is something I hate, but if good can come from it then I think maybe it's worth a shot.

While that is true, some of the animals listed are far more "rare" than the orchid and those class of species.

I agree, but an orchid is not an asian elephant

You're quite right, an orchid is not an elephant 😀 It was only an example of why the term "endangered species" doesn't mean a whole lot. I'll use it as an example again. The first orchids to come across the Atlantic to Europe did so in the dark, stuffy boiler rooms of the cargo ships seeking to exploit the New World. Orchids live up among the treetops, where light and wind are plentiful, so not many survived the trip. The ones that did though sparked a new market which today is a multi-billion dollar global business that is entirely renewable. If some entrepreneurial-minded person could do the same thing with the African elephant for the sake of its tusks, wouldn't it be worth it? The reason most of these animals are so rare to begin with is because they are already being poached and sold on the black market. By opening the market I think it's possible to turn some of these animals into lucritive businesses. What's being done to save them now isn't working in most cases. If there's a buck to be made they'll save themselves.

Or they'll go the way of the Dodo...

 

[Brutuskend]

What a crock.

But then what can you expect comming from Dubya?!

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
What a crock.

But then what can you expect comming from Dubya?!

maybe he could just sit out this last year quietly? Is that too much to ask?

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Anubis
i typically stay out of threds like this but this is rediclious. bush just proved to me that he is a compleat moron. looks like i wont be voteing for him this year either

Not many people will...as the election is next year. However, I doubt many people will vote for him even then.