Bush: "The Right Man"

[Rob9874]

Here is an intelligent (yet rare) article on why Bush is the right man for the job (from the Wall Street Journal):
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110002995

"This, truly, is a good man. And that is a rare thing. Agree with Mr. Bush's stands or disagree, there can be no doubting the depth of his seriousness and the degree to which he attempts to do what he is convinced is right, and to lead his country toward that vision of rightness. We have had many unusual men as president and some seemed like a gift and some didn't. Mr. Bush seems uniquely resolved to be as courageous as the times require and as helpful as they allow. There is a profound authenticity to him, and a fearlessness too."

 

[43st]

he attempts to do what he is convinced is right, and to lead his country toward that vision of rightness.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[Queasy]

Countdown to the "Bushisanidiothecan'tformcompletesentencesheisevilIdon'ttrusthimheruinedtheeconomyandwantstodestroytheenvironmentsoheandhisfriendscanprofit" brigade.

 

[feralkid]

Wall Street Journal.....what a load!

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Countdown to the "Bushisanidiothecan'tformcompletesentencesheisevilIdon'ttrusthimheruinedtheeconomyandwantstodestroytheenvironmentsoheandhisfriendscanprofit" brigade.

You forgot a space in there.

And oh, Bush is an idiot indeed, I totally agree with you.

Edit: Totally unbiased person too:

In 1988 she was chief speechwriter for Vice President George Bush as he ran for the presidency.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Countdown to the "Bushisanidiothecan'tformcompletesentencesheisevilIdon'ttrusthimheruinedtheeconomyandwantstodestroytheenvironmentsoheandhisfriendscanprofit" brigade.

Countdown to Theskyisblue.

 

[yowolabi]

It's great he always does what he thinks is right. Too bad I don't in any way trust him to come to the best conclusions about what is right. Calling him an idiot may be an easy thing to do, but on the other hand even the staunchest Republicans don't usually argue that he is intelligent. Usually what I hear is that he "has intelligent advisors". Problem is, he still makes the final decision.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Thera

he attempts to do what he is convinced is right, and to lead his country toward that vision of rightness.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Well said.

 

[Miramonti]

That "article" is a complete joke!

Peggy Noonan also wrote the book about Reagan "Character above all",
She was a speechwriter for George Bush
And has a history of slanting republican.
Discounted Lott's remarks as just "wierd" not racist

It goes on, just google to find the truth.

She's not a journalist, she's a politician.

 

[Red Dawn]

In his SOTU Speech he outlined a bunch of tax cuts he wants to go into effect immediately that sounded great onthe surface. My only question is this: How the hell are we going to bankroll the grand adventure in Iraq is we have less money coming in from taxes? I understand that concept of his tax plan creating more jobs which would result in more money being paid in taxes, but it would take a few years for that to happen. Meanwhile we are going to have a tremendous outflow of funds which combined with out current deficit will only sink us even deeper in debt as a nation.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Thera

he attempts to do what he is convinced is right, and to lead his country toward that vision of rightness.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

And also idleness.

 

[novon]

Some of the most evil men think they are not to blame and were doing the right thing at the time. I rather have a man that has the ability to doubt himself as the leader.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
In his SOTU Speech he outlined a bunch of tax cuts he wants to go into effect immediately that sounded great onthe surface. My only question is this: How the hell are we going to bankroll the grand adventure in Iraq is we have less money coming in from taxes? I understand that concept of his tax plan creating more jobs which would result in more money being paid in taxes, but it would take a few years for that to happen. Meanwhile we are going to have a tremendous outflow of funds which combined with out current deficit will only sink us even deeper in debt as a nation.

Just bankroll it like Reagan and put it on your national deficit visa card and pay interest on it for generations to come, while destroying any chance of salvaging a measley little program called Social Security. Its pretty simple when you think about it.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
In his SOTU Speech he outlined a bunch of tax cuts he wants to go into effect immediately that sounded great onthe surface. My only question is this: How the hell are we going to bankroll the grand adventure in Iraq is we have less money coming in from taxes? I understand that concept of his tax plan creating more jobs which would result in more money being paid in taxes, but it would take a few years for that to happen. Meanwhile we are going to have a tremendous outflow of funds which combined with out current deficit will only sink us even deeper in debt as a nation.

First of all, yes, it will take a couple years for any changes made now to have an effect.

Second, this is to all you liberal whiners, what the hell is wrong with having a deficit if its being used to accomplish things like stimulating the economy and strengthening our national defense? We saw how quickly a deficit can get erased in a good economy. Do you think America should be saving up for retirement? WTF good is a surplus then?

 

[fluxquantum]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
In his SOTU Speech he outlined a bunch of tax cuts he wants to go into effect immediately that sounded great onthe surface. My only question is this: How the hell are we going to bankroll the grand adventure in Iraq is we have less money coming in from taxes? I understand that concept of his tax plan creating more jobs which would result in more money being paid in taxes, but it would take a few years for that to happen. Meanwhile we are going to have a tremendous outflow of funds which combined with out current deficit will only sink us even deeper in debt as a nation.

that is true.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: novon
I rather have a man that has the ability to doubt himself as the leader.

Why, when there's so many in this country, muchless world, willing to do it for him.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

While their objectives are not the same, remember that Bin Laden was doing the right thing when he attacked the WTC. Same for Hitler and so many others. Not to say that Bush is Hitler. Just saying that a leader believing in what he is doing does not automatically mean he is doing the right thing or he is the right man.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: novon
Some of the most evil men think they are not to blame and were doing the right thing at the time. I rather have a man that has the ability to doubt himself as the leader.

kudos

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
While their objectives are not the same, remember that Bin Laden was doing the right thing when he attacked the WTC. Same for Hitler and so many others. Not to say that Bush is Hitler. Just saying that a leader believing in what he is doing does not automatically mean he is doing the right thing or he is the right man.

So you're saying nobody can ever truly know if anything they're doing is right or wrong? So it would be best to do nothing rather than risk doing something wrong? Try that the next time you have an infection.

Seriously, take a freakin stand instead of being a critic on the sidelines pointing out the freaking obvious.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
In his SOTU Speech he outlined a bunch of tax cuts he wants to go into effect immediately that sounded great onthe surface. My only question is this: How the hell are we going to bankroll the grand adventure in Iraq is we have less money coming in from taxes? I understand that concept of his tax plan creating more jobs which would result in more money being paid in taxes, but it would take a few years for that to happen. Meanwhile we are going to have a tremendous outflow of funds which combined with out current deficit will only sink us even deeper in debt as a nation.

First of all, yes, it will take a couple years for any changes made now to have an effect.

Second, this is to all you liberal whiners, what the hell is wrong with having a deficit if its being used to accomplish things like stimulating the economy and strengthening our national defense? We saw how quickly a deficit can get erased in a good economy. Do you think America should be saving up for retirement? WTF good is a surplus then?

I'm not a Liberal and I resent you claiming that I am just because I asked a legitimate question. If you can't answer my question then please spare me your Lockstep Limbaughtista Rhetoric.

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
In his SOTU Speech he outlined a bunch of tax cuts he wants to go into effect immediately that sounded great onthe surface. My only question is this: How the hell are we going to bankroll the grand adventure in Iraq is we have less money coming in from taxes? I understand that concept of his tax plan creating more jobs which would result in more money being paid in taxes, but it would take a few years for that to happen. Meanwhile we are going to have a tremendous outflow of funds which combined with out current deficit will only sink us even deeper in debt as a nation.

I know you're trying to be completely fair, but I'll make a leap and say the general concensus out there is the proposed tax reductions have been mostly discounted as fiscal stimulus. If you're a supply-sider, then you'll strongly believe it'll lead to economic growth down the road, but even that's a political opinion rather than scientific reasoning. Like I said in a different thread, labeling his tax breaks as economic stimulus is like selling sex. People will buy it regardless of the details.

As to the crux of your question, the bottom line is Bush Jr. is breaking with 140 years of presidential history. Presidents starting with Abraham Lincoln have imposed taxes to finance wars, but this is the first time a president has essentially passed off the costs of OUR defense onto future generations by reducing taxes. I don't have the exact quote(s), but presidents have at times argued strongly that we need to pay for our own defense.

IMO, Bush's position on the economy is rapidly eroding though. If all his tax cuts do not achieve a sustained economic recovery by mid-2004, he will be in a much more tenuous position for reelection.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider While their objectives are not the same, remember that Bin Laden was doing the right thing when he attacked the WTC. Same for Hitler and so many others. Not to say that Bush is Hitler. Just saying that a leader believing in what he is doing does not automatically mean he is doing the right thing or he is the right man.

So you're saying nobody can ever truly know if anything they're doing is right or wrong? So it would be best to do nothing rather than risk doing something wrong? Try that the next time you have an infection. Seriously, take a freakin stand instead of being a critic on the sidelines pointing out the freaking obvious.

Someone needs to point out the obvious since so many seem to miss it. I was very careful not to be critical of Bush so even you could get it. If Bush (or any other leader) believes that what he is doing is right, does not make him a Clark Kent with a big Presidental S underneath (read the article). A person can absolutely do the wrong thing because he believes he is right. Wise people realize this, the foolish do not. Of course I could be wrong.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
In his SOTU Speech he outlined a bunch of tax cuts he wants to go into effect immediately that sounded great onthe surface. My only question is this: How the hell are we going to bankroll the grand adventure in Iraq is we have less money coming in from taxes? I understand that concept of his tax plan creating more jobs which would result in more money being paid in taxes, but it would take a few years for that to happen. Meanwhile we are going to have a tremendous outflow of funds which combined with out current deficit will only sink us even deeper in debt as a nation.

I know you're trying to be completely fair, but I'll make a leap and say the general concensus out there is the proposed tax reductions have been mostly discounted as fiscal stimulus. If you're a supply-sider, then you'll strongly believe it'll lead to economic growth down the road, but even that's a political opinion rather than scientific reasoning. Like I said in a different thread, labeling his tax breaks as economic stimulus is like selling sex. People will buy it regardless of the details.

As to the crux of your question, the bottom line is Bush Jr. is breaking with 140 years of presidential history. Presidents starting with Abraham Lincoln have imposed taxes to finance wars, but this is the first time a president has essentially passed off the costs of OUR defense onto future generations by reducing taxes. I don't have the exact quote(s), but presidents have at times argued strongly that we need to pay for our own defense.

IMO, Bush's position on the economy is rapidly eroding though. If all his tax cuts do not achieve a sustained economic recovery by mid-2004, he will be in a much more tenuous position for reelection.

His proposals make sense in time of peace but they seem rather optomistic now.

 

[Rob9874]

That is why we have checks and balances in the USA. If we mistakenly elect a leader that believes wrong is right, we have the power to vote down his propositions, impeach him, etc. We are not a dictatorship, like Hitler's Germany. If Bush wasn't doing the right thing, Congress, the UN, and other nations would put an end to it. You think the leaders of those 8 European nations are wrong too? Bush has support throughout the world.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: axiom
Red Dawn: I answered your question already.

No you didn't. Anyways, I doubt that once the bills start rolling in for financing this Military Excursion I doubt that Congress will be in a mood for cutting more taxes.