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CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
And you don't think some here would like to see a bigger body count to help turn opinion against the war? Come on now - don't kid yourself...

CsG

There might be one or two but your comment was addressed to Conjur and I see no evidence that Conjur is one of those who feel that way.

Well, he isn't as overt about wishing for our failure as some of the others - I'll give him that. However there was a thread a while back about the report that there were less battlefield deaths. It was quite interesting that people weren't happy that we are saving more soldiers but rather gnashing their teeth that they were permanently injured. I suggest conjur or the rest ask an injured soldier and their family if they are happy that we now have protection that only gets them injured instead of killed.

CsG
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: kage69
"Through your service and sacrifice in the war on terror, you're making America safer."
BULLSHIT! :| They're being used in a way to make America LESS SAFE!
Ooh. Capital letters. Now I'm really scared. :roll:

Your statement is nothing more than fearmongering FUD and has no basis to back it up.
Being a prime Bush-God fanboi, you'd know all about fearmongering and FUD.
Good to see you're still confused, lack any real informative input, and still rely primarily on rhetoric and hyperbole to make any statements. It warms my heart. Really, it does. :roll:

Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: kage69
"Through your service and sacrifice in the war on terror, you're making America safer."


BULLSHIT! :| They're being used in a way to make America LESS SAFE!

Really, inciting more enemies to take up arms against us is an intelligence strategy. Yeah, that's how we flush 'em out!
And sitting around in a Clintonesque manner with our collective thumbs up our butts - and our cigars who knows where - was a complete failure and didn't prevent enemies from taking up arms against us on our very own soil. Yeah, that was a real sound strategy.

Clinton's administration stopped the millenium plot and stopped any further terror attacks after the first attack on the WTC. They handed over power to the Bushites who promptly ignored the information given them on Osama and the terrorist threat, deciding rather to start up another giant useless military pork project to benefit their friends.

Then, under Bush's watch, al Qaeda attacked on 9/11.

How is that Clinton's fault? And why don't you cut that Clinton umbilical chord already? Bush has had four years to work on problems you people claim were Clinton's fault (I only wish we had those problems back today). But Bush instead used that time to screw up the country and the planet, and he's done a remarkably effective job at both.

It can't still be Clinton's fault after four years of Bush. Especially since, in truth, it was never Clinton's fault to begin with.

 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
And you don't think some here would like to see a bigger body count to help turn opinion against the war? Come on now - don't kid yourself...

CsG
:roll::cookie::roll:
The baby is just a wee bit upset that the war in Iraq isn't going according to the fantasies of the neocons he worships.

Yeah, Bowfinger probably is upset that the War is being won.

Oh, you were trying to call me names? How nice. First off - I'm not upset at how the WAR is going when put in the perspective of WAR. However I do have problems with the way the media is reporting(or rather not reporting) the whole story over there. Oh, and I don't worship neo-cons.

CsG

Why do you think the media is not portraying the war over there accurately. I have a freind that came back from there and he pretty much agreed with the impressions you get from the TV news. Do you have experience that claims otherwise?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
And you don't think some here would like to see a bigger body count to help turn opinion against the war? Come on now - don't kid yourself...

CsG

There might be one or two but your comment was addressed to Conjur and I see no evidence that Conjur is one of those who feel that way.

Well, he isn't as overt about wishing for our failure as some of the others - I'll give him that. However there was a thread a while back about the report that there were less battlefield deaths. It was quite interesting that people weren't happy that we are saving more soldiers but rather gnashing their teeth that they were permanently injured. I suggest conjur or the rest ask an injured soldier and their family if they are happy that we now have protection that only gets them injured instead of killed.

CsG
Conjur's point was obvious, that they shouldn't have been there in the first place to get horribly maimed. You have and are twisting his words which is also just as obvious.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage

Amputations account for 2.4 percent of all wounded in action in the Iraq war
Which makes about 250 amputees
And the rest of that quote:

twice the rate in World War I and World War II, said Chuck Scoville, the amputee program manager of Walter Reed. Sophisticated body armor and medical techniques in the battlefield have preserved lives but not necessarily limbs.
Yeah, too bad they aren't dead right? I mean that would help your body-count cause, no? :roll:

Disgusting...

CsG
Go "Cheney"


And you damn well better apologize for that ridiculous remark.

<ahem>
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: tss4
Why do you think the media is not portraying the war over there accurately. I have a freind that came back from there and he pretty much agreed with the impressions you get from the TV news. Do you have experience that claims otherwise?


I have read various reports from soldiers on the ground. Also, you can look at official websites that detail events going on in Iraq. Where do you think I get my "good news" to post? It sure isn't from the MSM - because they won't report on it - and we all know why.

CsG
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage

Amputations account for 2.4 percent of all wounded in action in the Iraq war
Which makes about 250 amputees
And the rest of that quote:

twice the rate in World War I and World War II, said Chuck Scoville, the amputee program manager of Walter Reed. Sophisticated body armor and medical techniques in the battlefield have preserved lives but not necessarily limbs.
Yeah, too bad they aren't dead right? I mean that would help your body-count cause, no? :roll:

Disgusting...

CsG
Go "Cheney"


And you damn well better apologize for that ridiculous remark.

<ahem>
I wouldn't press it as it will come back to bite you in the ass!
 

Grunt03

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the bad thing about this is that he can ask all he wants to, it is the military generals that need to tell him to f^ckoff, but they will not they are all kissing his ass every step of the way.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: conjur
I have never gone that far across the line.

Because you're no fascist.

Unlike those who do go that far across the line.

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
I have never gone that far across the line.

Because you're no fascist.

Unlike those who do go that far across the line.
And we can see the quality of his character from his resounding silence in this thread now.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
And you don't think some here would like to see a bigger body count to help turn opinion against the war? Come on now - don't kid yourself...

CsG

There might be one or two but your comment was addressed to Conjur and I see no evidence that Conjur is one of those who feel that way.

Well, he isn't as overt about wishing for our failure as some of the others - I'll give him that. However there was a thread a while back about the report that there were less battlefield deaths. It was quite interesting that people weren't happy that we are saving more soldiers but rather gnashing their teeth that they were permanently injured. I suggest conjur or the rest ask an injured soldier and their family if they are happy that we now have protection that only gets them injured instead of killed.

CsG
Conjur's point was obvious, that they shouldn't have been there in the first place to get horribly maimed. You have and are twisting his words which is also just as obvious.

Exactly, he wouldn't ever come out and say it directly - he's not that dumb.
Did conjur even answer the questions posed? No. He and you are getting all worked up over something that he hasn't even answered. Hey, answer "no" then. It's not that difficult.

CsG
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
I have never gone that far across the line.

Because you're no fascist.

Unlike those who do go that far across the line.
And we can see the quality of his character from his resounding silence in this thread now.

:roll:
Some of have work to do - but hey, don't let the FACTS get in the way of your little love fest with bob.

CsG
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage

Amputations account for 2.4 percent of all wounded in action in the Iraq war
Which makes about 250 amputees
And the rest of that quote:

twice the rate in World War I and World War II, said Chuck Scoville, the amputee program manager of Walter Reed. Sophisticated body armor and medical techniques in the battlefield have preserved lives but not necessarily limbs.
Yeah, too bad they aren't dead right? I mean that would help your body-count cause, no? :roll:

Disgusting...

CsG
Go "Cheney"


And you damn well better apologize for that ridiculous remark.

<ahem>

Did you ever answer the questions posed? Nope - no you didn't.

<shrug>

CsG
 

conjur

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Ah, I see...you're holding to your insulting post denigrating my character.


What a man you are, CsG.

:roll:
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
I have never gone that far across the line.

Because you're no fascist.

Unlike those who do go that far across the line.
And we can see the quality of his character from his resounding silence in this thread now.

Hmm...

The "quality" of his character is painfully apparent when he replies as well.

 

imported_tss4

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: tss4
Why do you think the media is not portraying the war over there accurately. I have a freind that came back from there and he pretty much agreed with the impressions you get from the TV news. Do you have experience that claims otherwise?


I have read various reports from soldiers on the ground. Also, you can look at official websites that detail events going on in Iraq. Where do you think I get my "good news" to post? It sure isn't from the MSM - because they won't report on it - and we all know why.

CsG

And I've seen plenty of good reports come out of Iraq too. And I learned it from the mainstream media. The left thinks the media is biased to the right and and the right thinks it s baised to the left. Seems pretty balanced to me. You're pretty radical, though, so I wouldn't expect you to agree.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
I have never gone that far across the line.

Because you're no fascist.

Unlike those who do go that far across the line.
And we can see the quality of his character from his resounding silence in this thread now.

Hmm...

The "quality" of his character is painfully apparent when he replies as well.

Exactly.

Holding me to task to answering his insulting and flamebait questions is like answering "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

I'll hold out hope for an apology but I'm just an optimist.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: tss4
Why do you think the media is not portraying the war over there accurately. I have a freind that came back from there and he pretty much agreed with the impressions you get from the TV news. Do you have experience that claims otherwise?


I have read various reports from soldiers on the ground. Also, you can look at official websites that detail events going on in Iraq. Where do you think I get my "good news" to post? It sure isn't from the MSM - because they won't report on it - and we all know why.

CsG

And I've seen plenty of good reports come out of Iraq too. And I learned it from the mainstream media. The left thinks the media is biased to the right and and the right thinks it s baised to the left. Seems pretty balanced to me. You're pretty radical, though, so I wouldn't expect you to agree.

Yeah, I'm "radical" alright. A radical that believed the press should report the news - not be some activist. A radical that thinks our gov't and especially the Judiciary should follow the Constitution.
Yep - damn I'm radical.

Anyway - there are daily examples of progress and hope in Iraq, yet what do we get? That's right -we get the "negative".

CsG
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: conjur
I have never gone that far across the line.

Because you're no fascist.

Unlike those who do go that far across the line.
And we can see the quality of his character from his resounding silence in this thread now.

Hmm...

The "quality" of his character is painfully apparent when he replies as well.

Exactly.

Holding me to task to answering his insulting and flamebait questions is like answering "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

I'll hold out hope for an apology but I'm just an optimist.

:roll: They are simple questions conjur.

"too bad they aren't dead right?" (if I were you - I'd answer "no" ;) )
"I mean that would help your body-count cause, no?" (this too, I'd answer with a "no, because ____" )

But hey, that's just me. You can continue to evade them if you wish.

CsG
 

BBond

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OMG

They just had some singer do a stirring rendition of John Ashcroft's "Let the Eagle Soar" at the coronation.

This is just too funny.

The only way it could be funnier is if it was Ashcroft up there embarassing himself and everyone else with his fascist crap.

 
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
My, my, my. Rather defensive all of a sudden, TLC. What's the matter? Your plan to follow in CsG's steps of obfuscation and ambiguity failing?
CsG? The only one I see failing so far in this thread is you. Your obvious dodging, weaving, and obfuscations are apparent to anyone who not thick as a brick.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!! I'm not the one avoiding questions and changing the subject.

You know damn well you were referring to Iraq. That's what this thread is about.
The thread is about Iraq. But nowhere did I claim or even infer Iraq "attacked" the US as you poorly attempted to twist it. At this point, I'm rather dubious about you having any reading comprehension whatsoever.
Let's go to the tape again:

"And sitting around in a Clintonesque manner with our collective thumbs up our butts - and our cigars who knows where - was a complete failure and didn't prevent enemies from taking up arms against us on our very own soil."

Hmm...and you admitted this thread is about Iraq. So, you're claiming Iraq attacked us on our own soil. Where's the proof?[/quote]
I can't believe you're acting like such a hideous moron. I'm talking about Clinton too. Oh, but this thread is about Iraq. I suppose because I'm talking about Clinton that I'm claiming Clinton invaded the US as well?

Stop being a diversionary dumbass and playing idiotic word games.

At least I know how to spell it.
You figured out how to use a spell checker? Wow. You are so impressive. :roll:
No spell checker required. What's interesting, though, is you misspelled it right after I had used it. Hmm....

He did NOT pay money to terrorists. Go ahead, show me the proof.
If you haven't seen the proo0f, then you surely shoudln't be arguing about soemthing for which you are evidently clueless.

Learn something:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles...310.html?oneclick=true
From the headline itself, it disproves your argument:

The Iraqi leader's payments to the families of dead Palestinian terrorists means more trouble for Yasser Arafat, writes Paul McGeough in the West Bank[/quote][/quote]
Another sad attempt of you trying to apologize for Saddam and the PLO and a weak efort to disassociate the homocide bombers from Saddams payment to terrorists. Figures, once again. Typical of "patriots" like you though. :roll:

Nice attempt at using a big word. Too bad it failed.
Maybe it's a big word to you. That I could understand completely.
No, it was a big word for you. That's why I mentioned that you failed in its use. It was too big for you.[/quote]
Good lord you act like a kindergardener. How old are you again?

Fess up to what? You know I'm right. The fact that you can't substantiate your claims is proof of that.
/watches conjur floating blissfully ignorant down that river that's not in Egypt.
You just disproved yourself! BWA HA HA HA HA[/quote]
In your own delusional mind.

*You* made the claim that Clinton did nothing. Go ahead, prove it.

It's been proven up here MANY times before that he did quite a bit.

What's the matter? Chicken?
More poor reading comprehension from you. It figures. Here's what I said about Clinton:

"And sitting around in a Clintonesque manner with our collective thumbs up our butts - and our cigars who knows where - was a complete failure and didn't prevent enemies from taking up arms against us on our very own soil. Yeah, that was a real sound strategy."

What did Clniton do besides bomb an aspirin factory in Sudan? He had OBL in his sights on several different occassion abd failed to take action. That failure to take the proper action (capturing or killing OBL) ended up costing us many lives.

Feel free to rebut that, con.
Go search the threads up here. There was one just a week or so ago. Shouldn't be too hard for you to find.

CsG must be proud of his underling.
People have been vacationed for less around here. For some reason though you won't be as it's apparent you're the teflon con.
Say what? You're following in his footsteps using the same fallacious logic. It's obvious you envy him.[/quote]


The rest of your replies are nothing but BS as well. You don't want to debate honestly because if you did you'd be beaten like the littel redheaded step-child you are. I have no interest in discussing anything with you anymore, little boy. When you can act like a man, please let everyone in ere know.

Thanks.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
When you can act like a man, please let everyone in ere know.

Thanks.
Oohh.... such a convincing argument!!!!!:roll:
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
When you can act like a man, please let everyone in ere know.

Thanks.
Oohh.... such a convincing argument!!!!!:roll:
heh...no kidding. I found nothing in his little rant worthy of a reply. It was completely lacking any substance.