Bush tax cuts for top earners should expire - says someone smarter than all of us!

[IGBT]

income confiscation for one is income confiscation for ALL.

 

[jhbball]

My god you're dumb. Are you able to eat on your own or does someone have to spoon it in for you?

But hey, keep trying to make me feel bad about an extended paid vacation. The deflection just makes you look worse.

No, you're just an idiot.

 

[Craig234]

income confiscation for one is income confiscation for ALL.

You are as much an ideological cult member, spouting dogma, as a radical communist in the USSR was.

 

[hal2kilo]

You are as much an ideological cult member, spouting dogma, as a radical communist in the USSR was.

I'm sure he is an island unto himself. He probably even birthed himself and owes nothing to the world.

 

[LegendKiller]

It's funny how those who claim such angst over these tax cut elimination are also those who cannot use logic to support them nor are they even the ones they apply to.

 

[spidey07]

It's funny how those who claim such angst over these tax cut elimination are also those who cannot use logic to support them nor are they even the ones they apply to.

Logic says stealing more peoples money will limit the money they do spend which is what's wrong with the economy right now. So let's not poor gasoline on that fire.

You can be damn sure I'm preparing for the coming changes, I've even posted many threads on how to do so. You should also probably do the same because we're in the range that is really going to be impacted.

 

[LegendKiller]

Logic says stealing more peoples money will limit the money they do spend which is what's wrong with the economy right now. So let's not poor gasoline on that fire.

You can be damn sure I'm preparing for the coming changes, I've even posted many threads on how to do so. You should also probably do the same because we're in the range that is really going to be impacted.

Says the asshole whose wife works for the government.

There isn't a single shred of evidence that shows that higher taxes result in more growth. Furthermore, there isn't a single shred of evidence that shows that higher tax rates are harmful. If anything, the lower tax rates of the last 30 years as shown, with 100% certainty, that we are headed in the wrong direction. You'd think that empirical evidence would convince you, but you're too stupid.

 

[spidey07]

Says the asshole whose wife works for the government.

There isn't a single shred of evidence that shows that higher taxes result in more growth. Furthermore, there isn't a single shred of evidence that shows that higher tax rates are harmful. If anything, the lower tax rates of the last 30 years as shown, with 100% certainty, that we are headed in the wrong direction. You'd think that empirical evidence would convince you, but you're too stupid.

I'm using common sense. If I/we have less money to spend, and I/we will, I won't spend as much. And I love my 180k a year with incredible benefits, full salary pension, wife. When did you get your Social Security raise this year? I got mine in late may.:biggrin: And she doesn't even pay SS.

 

[LegendKiller]

I'm using common sense. If I/we have less money to spend, and I/we will, I won't spend as much. And I love my 180k a year with incredible benefits, full salary pension, wife. When did you get your Social Security raise this year? I got mine in late may.:biggrin: And she doesn't even pay SS.

No, you're not using "common" sense. You're being the typical first-order of effect thinking knuckle dragging republican.

So you love being the leech. Nice.

 

[spidey07]

No, you're not using "common" sense. You're being the typical first-order of effect thinking knuckle dragging republican.

So you love being the leech. Nice.

It doesn't matter. Republicans ran on a platform of stopping Obama and keeping all the Bush tax cuts in place for ALL tax payers. And they were voted in an historic landslide congressional and state turnover.

The progressive ideals of failure have been exposed and the WILL be defeated. Count on it. If you still feel so guilty, then pay extra to the government, they'll take it.

And I asked you a question - when did you get your SS raise? If you claim to make what you do then you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. So put up or shut up.

 

[Brigandier]

It doesn't matter. Republicans ran on a platform of stopping Obama and keeping all the Bush tax cuts in place for ALL tax payers. And they were voted in an historic landslide congressional and state turnover.

The progressive ideals of failure have been exposed and the WILL be defeated. Count on it. If you still feel so guilty, then pay extra to the government, they'll take it.

And I asked you a question - when did you get your SS raise? If you claim to make what you do then you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. So put up or shut up.

Spidey, I have to admit, you are borderline liberal.

 

[spidey07]

Spidey, I have to admit, you are borderline liberal.

I believe in utmost economic liberty, so yeah, I'm a liberal. Or in today's terms, a Capitalist.

 

[Brigandier]

I believe in utmost economic liberty, so yeah, I'm a liberal. Or in today's terms, a Capitalist.

Nah, that's just rightness coming through. You're liberal because you are a successful business person that has sold out and married a gubment woman. You have to go all the way or none of the way, spidey.

 

[LegendKiller]

It doesn't matter. Republicans ran on a platform of stopping Obama and keeping all the Bush tax cuts in place for ALL tax payers. And they were voted in an historic landslide congressional and state turnover.

The progressive ideals of failure have been exposed and the WILL be defeated. Count on it. If you still feel so guilty, then pay extra to the government, they'll take it.

And I asked you a question - when did you get your SS raise? If you claim to make what you do then you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. So put up or shut up.

No, Obama was a victim of the Bush economy. The inability to flip the economic switch to "full throttle" resulted in the elections, nothing more.

Nice that you've essentially admitted that you're sucking off of the public's tit in your wife's obviously bloated public wage and pension. You are part and parcel the reason why we have run-away wage spending.

I would say 3/15/2010 was when I had fully funded my 401k and SS dropped off. I only get paid once a month, on the 1st, so I am estimating in between my March 1st paycheck and April 1st.

Of course, that's also when I got my bonus, but that really doesn't matter, right?

 

[manimal]

The progressive ideals of failure have been exposed and the WILL be defeated. Count on it. If you still feel so guilty, then pay extra to the government, they'll take it.
So put up or shut up.

So since you do not believe in taxes and big government you should stop paying them altogether as well and cease driving on public roads...

But but...ya... see how non nonsensical that argument is when its flipped on you?

 

[LegendKiller]

So since you do not believe in taxes and big government you should stop paying them altogether as well and cease driving on public roads...

But but...ya... see how non nonsensical that argument is when its flipped on you?

No, the real thing he should do is have his wife give back her entire salary, as that is misbegotten amounts from the taxpayer purse, stolen from my paycheck.

He should also stop using the internet.

 

[Zebo]

Americans are too soft and there is no solution other than total bankruptcy. The rich and wannabes don't want their taxes raised but want to war. The poor are perfectly content not doing jack shit for gov't cheese. We seem to have no problem gutting out American industry for cheap trinkets from aboard and debt. Now that debts at it's end we print counterfeit money. And yes it's counterfeit because MONEY is a derivative of production and a loan is simply an advance of money against future production. Both of which we totally fail at which can only mean people asking more for their warez as you dilute the dollar. I've seen this before in history books and it won't end well.

The parade of Zebo's is getting longer each day...David Stockman Reagan budget guru, William Black, the former chief prosecutor of the S&L crisis, Blll Gross probably #1 money guy in USA, Janet Tvakoli, one the nations foremost experts on derivatives and CDOs all say it's over if we don't confront our condition.

 

[Zebo]

I'm using common sense. If I/we have less money to spend, and I/we will, I won't spend as much. And I love my 180k a year with incredible benefits, full salary pension, wife. When did you get your Social Security raise this year? I got mine in late may.:biggrin: And she doesn't even pay SS.

You don't understand all wealth in this country has become a derivative of debt and credit. And worse, today, Federal government being the primary beneficiary of credit is picking and choosing who gets credit and who doesnt thus making winners and losers. If your investments have access to credit or are serviced because of credit, your investments have value like Goldman Sachs, if not, you are hosed like the GM shareholders or Lehman bros shareholders. If your employer or his customers gets a loan, you'll still have a job. IF not too bad. If your municipality is able to continue to sell bonds your wife will stay employed, if not she'll be fired like thousands of educators and cops are accross the country.

This arbitrary allocation of credit and govt spending is what's driving our economy today. The very fact, that Buffett of all people, one of the most unleveraged businessman on the planet, tells us the only reason he is not celebrating Thanksgiving at McDonalds and Berkshire didn't go bankrupt is because he got bailed out should tell you that.

Municipal bonds have continued in some places for now, many have not and thus cities are going bankrupt... In other words, Pension? LOL I would not count on it.

 

[LegendKiller]

This arbitrary allocation of credit and govt spending is what's driving our economy today. The very fact, that Buffett of all people, one of the most unleveraged businessman on the planet, tells us the only reason he is not celebrating Thanksgiving at McDonalds and Berkshire didn't go bankrupt is because he got bailed out should tell you that.

Link to where he said that?

I don't really agree with the premise of the rest of your post either. Credit on future earnings has been around a long time. It's not wholly evil but can be over consumed just like anything else.

 

[Zebo]

Link to where he said that?

I don't really agree with the premise of the rest of your post either. Credit on future earnings has been around a long time. It's not wholly evil but can be over consumed just like anything else.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/17/opinion/17buffett.html?_r=1

It's way over consumed. To point of fraud when you have no reasonable expectation of pay it back.

 

[LegendKiller]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/17/opinion/17buffett.html?_r=1

It's way over consumed. To point of fraud when you have no reasonable expectation of pay it back.

What you didn't get about that wasn't that BRK got bailed out specifically, or even tangentially through the financial business, but that BRK got bailed out just the same as any of us got bailed out.

Not sure if you're thinking about it like that, but I think that's how you should.