Bush Suspends Minimum Wage

borosp1

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Bush lifts wage rules for Katrina
President signs executive order allowing contractors to pay below prevailing wage in affected areas.
September 8, 2005: 9:42 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush issued an executive order Thursday allowing federal contractors rebuilding in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina to pay below the prevailing wage.

In a notice to Congress, Bush said the hurricane had caused "a national emergency" that permits him to take such action under the 1931 Davis-Bacon Act in ravaged areas of Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi.

Bush's action came as the federal government moved to provide billions of dollars in aid, and drew rebukes from two of organized labor's biggest friends in Congress, Rep. George Miller of California and Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, both Democrats.

"The administration is using the devastation of Hurricane Katrina to cut the wages of people desperately trying to rebuild their lives and their communities," Miller said.

"President Bush should immediately realize the colossal mistake he has made in signing this order and rescind it and ensure that America puts its people back to work in the wake of Katrina at wages that will get them and their families back on their feet," Miller said.

"I regret the president's decision," said Kennedy.

"One of the things the American people are very concerned about is shabby work and that certainly is true about the families whose houses are going to be rebuilt and buildings that are going to be restored," Kennedy said.

The Davis-Bacon law requires federal contractors to pay workers at least the prevailing wages in the area where the work is conducted. It applies to federally funded construction projects such as highways and bridges.

Bush's executive order suspends the requirements of the Davis-Bacon law for designated areas hit by the storm.

Source: http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/08/news/economy/katrina_wages.reut/

 

BoberFett

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Bush spends way too much time on his Sit'n'Spin.

What kind of decision is this? How on earth does he make the leap from hurricane to suspending minimum wage?
 

raildogg

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not good.

this is sounding like the corrupt corporations enslaving their workers like they do in other countries or even America in its past. i dont think its necessary

minimum wage should be raised, not lowered and definately not suspended. who knows how long it is going to be suspended? for years? since its going to take years to rebuild these places.

i guess we are back to where corporations can enslave their workers while the CEOs get to collect even bigger paychecks. also, when a company is in a financial crisis, why do the CEOs always ask their employees to give up some of their pay while the CEOs salary gets bigger and bigger each year. this is just ridiculous
 

borosp1

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Bush is without a doubt the worst president in the history of the United States. When he is so blatently on the side of big business and religious idealogs its just sick.

This is more of a reason Bush's approval ratings should go down.
 

conjur

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Say bye-bye to the protection of workers.


BTW, where's the rollback of gas prices to protect the consumer? Oh, screw them...let the oil companies keep gouging.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: borosp1
Bush is without a doubt the worst president in the history of the United States. When he is so blatently on the side of big business and religious idealogs its just sick.

"Borosp1's History of the United States: 1980-Present"
 

sygyzy

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I am confused here. What is the reasoning behind this? How will suspending min. wage help matters? I truly do not follow.
 

Ferocious

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What a dirt bag.

Actually I'm not surprised other than it being picked up by a major news site.

 

Ferocious

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
I am confused here. What is the reasoning behind this? How will suspending min. wage help matters? I truly do not follow.


NOT minimum wage....but the prevailing wage. It's the average or typical wage for that area. So as not to be undercut by workers used to making a lot less elsewhere. The idea is too employ workers that live in that area.


 

nutxo

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Wow,

Any of you geniuses know what prevailing wage means in regards to government contracts?


Im my younger days I was a roofer. My company paid me 12 bucks an hour. When the company was short they would have non union workers come in at prevailing wag. I would make 21 an hour working on base.

He's not lowering minimum wage, he's suspending unions prevailing wage scams.


Anyways, the op of this thread is breaking the rules by blatantly refusing to provide commentary and should be banned.
 

borosp1

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Originally posted by: nutxo

Anyways, the op of this thread is breaking the rules by blatantly refusing to provide commentary and should be banned.


Next time you want to be a troll read all the posts before making a comment like that. I did comment on the story just further down in another thread.
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: borosp1
Originally posted by: nutxo

Anyways, the op of this thread is breaking the rules by blatantly refusing to provide commentary and should be banned.


Next time you want to be a troll read all the posts before making a comment like that. I did comment on the story just further down in another thread.

Troll? You dont even know what the hell you're talking about. I'm pretty sure ya need to comment in the original post. Im supposed to read the complete liberal circle jerk to get to the OP's comentary?

As for approval ratings. I don't think Bush is worried about those. I'm pretty sure he can't run in the next presidential election. :heart:
 

glugglug

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Originally posted by: nutxo
As for approval ratings. I don't think Bush is worried about those. I'm pretty sure he can't run in the next presidential election. :heart:

None of the other constitional amendments are safe with him, I'm sure he'll try to void that one as well.
 

Vic

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Where in the article does it say that Bush suspended the minimum wage? It doesn't. He suspended the Davis-Bacon Act, aka the federal prevailing wage, for that area and that area only. The article says AND explains that quite clearly.

Where do you people get the idea that this will benefit corporations? It won't. If anything, it will hurt them. Bush is doing this to undercut the contractors and force them to submit lower-than-normal bids. The purpose here is to not benefit corporations but to save the federal government money in the face what will likely be staggering rebuilding costs to be placed upon the taxpayers. In other words, he's trying to keep the carpet-baggers out and encourage the use of local companies and workers. Pretty obvious to anyone who knows business, I would say.

Are the unions upset? Of course. They can stay home then while locals work, happy to have a job after this disaster.

Is the OP trolling? With or without commentary in the OP (and there still is none), I would say most certainly yes. His argument is intentionally misleading, partisan, and ignorant.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: borosp1
Bush is without a doubt the worst president in the history of the United States. When he is so blatently on the side of big business and religious idealogs its just sick.
"Borosp1's History of the United States: 1980-Present"
More like 1992-present.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: raildogg
not good.

this is sounding like the corrupt corporations enslaving their workers like they do in other countries or even America in its past. i dont think its necessary

minimum wage should be raised, not lowered and definately not suspended. who knows how long it is going to be suspended? for years? since its going to take years to rebuild these places.

i guess we are back to where corporations can enslave their workers while the CEOs get to collect even bigger paychecks. also, when a company is in a financial crisis, why do the CEOs always ask their employees to give up some of their pay while the CEOs salary gets bigger and bigger each year. this is just ridiculous

What happened to you? Did conjur get your password somehow?
 

dahunan

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I have to say that in all honestly.. this is a very good thing.. ONLY IF... ONLY IF... the contract money given out reflects the reduced cost of the wages... If KBR or Haliburton were to come in and do the the work you know that they would get a no bids deal and still charge the Govt Prevailing Wage....


Prevailing Wage is not what NO can afford right now... no way no how.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: dahunan
I have to say that in all honestly.. this is a very good thing.. ONLY IF... ONLY IF... the contract money given out reflects the reduced cost of the wages... If KBR or Haliburton were to come in and do the the work you know that they would get a no bids deal and still charge the Govt Prevailing Wage....


Prevailing Wage is not what NO can afford right now... no way no how.

:thumbsup:

Good, honest answer.
 

dahunan

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I had the same situation happen as the roofer up above.. I was working for a private contractor earning about $11 an hour approximately 15-16 years ago.. well guess what.. when I went in to pick up my check they were forced to give me prevailing wage... AT like $23 per hour.. for unskilled labor... This was work that was performed on the building of a new airport... I was only 17 or 18 at the time and was doing some small forklift driving and clean up... $23 per hour for those menial tasks was outrageous and unnecessary.


Could you imagine what it would cost if every person with a broom in NO was paid $25 per hour?
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: dahunan
I have to say that in all honestly.. this is a very good thing.. ONLY IF... ONLY IF... the contract money given out reflects the reduced cost of the wages... If KBR or Haliburton were to come in and do the the work you know that they would get a no bids deal and still charge the Govt Prevailing Wage....


Prevailing Wage is not what NO can afford right now... no way no how.

:thumbsup:

Good, honest answer.


Thank you :)



I still hate George though :) ;)