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Bush Senior cautions his son over Unilateral Action

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Lifer
Bush Sr warning over unilateral action
From Roland Watson in Washington



THE first President Bush has told his son that hopes of peace in the Middle East would be ruined if a war with Iraq were not backed by international unity.
Drawing on his own experiences before and after the 1991 Gulf War, Mr Bush Sr said that the brief flowering of hope for Arab-Israeli relations a decade ago would never have happened if America had ignored the will of the United Nations.

He also urged the President to resist his tendency to bear grudges, advising his son to bridge the rift between the United States, France and Germany.

?You?ve got to reach out to the other person. You?ve got to convince them that long-term friendship should trump short-term adversity,? he said.

The former President?s comments reflect unease among the Bush family and its entourage at the way that George W. Bush is ignoring international opinion and overriding the institutions that his father sought to uphold. Mr Bush Sr is a former US Ambassador to the UN and comes from a family steeped in multi-lateralist traditions.

Although not addressed to his son in person, the message, in a speech at Tufts University in Massachusetts, was unmistakeable. Mr Bush Sr even came close to conceding that opponents of his son?s case against President Saddam Hussein, who he himself is on record as loathing, have legitimate cause for concern.

He said that the key question of how many weapons of mass destruction Iraq held ?could be debated?. The case against Saddam was ?less clear? than in 1991, when Mr Bush Sr led an international coalition to expel invading Iraqi troops from Kuwait. Objectives were ?a little fuzzier today?, he added.

After the Gulf War, Mr Bush Sr steered Israel and its Arab neighbours to the Madrid conference, a stepping stone to the historic Israeli-Palestinian Oslo accords, in much the same way that the present President has talked about the removal of Saddam as opening the way to a wider peace in the region.

In an ominous warning for his son, Mr Bush Sr said that he would have been able to achieve nothing if he had jeopardised future relations by ignoring the UN. ?The Madrid conference would never have happened if the international coalition that fought together in Desert Storm had exceeded the UN mandate and gone on its own into Baghdad after Saddam and his forces.?

Also drawing on the lessons of 1991, he said that it was imperative to mend fences with allies immediately, rather than waiting until after a war. He had been infuriated with the decision of King Hussein of Jordan to side with Saddam rather than the US, but while criticising the Jordanian leader in public and freezing $41 million in US aid, he also passed word to King Hussein that he understood his domestic tensions.

Mr Bush Jr, who is said never to forget even relatively minor slights, has alarmed analysts with the way in which he has allowed senior Administration figures such as Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, aggressively to criticise France and Germany.

There are, however, signs that Mr Bush Sr?s message may be getting through.

Father and son talk regularly and it was, in part, pressure from Mr Bush Sr?s foreign policy coterie, that helped to persuade the President to go to the UN last September.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-605441,00.html
 
and when you compare that to CNN...

'He had no respect for our military then'
The President's father on Saddam, the first Gulf War and what his son faces now
When President No. 43 tells President No. 41 not to worry, he's talking not only as one world leader to another but also as a son to a father. That simple request combines perhaps the most intimate and unusual mix of power and love that this nation has ever witnessed.
"It's my job to worry," says George Bush the elder, with a chuckle. But his concern is not about the rightness of the cause in Iraq or the ability of the President to lead the country in this dangerous time. It is that of a father who sees his son on a lonely and difficult march and knows he may be the only other person on the planet who can completely understand what the President is going through.
George H.W.'s daughter-in-law, the First Lady, has whispered to him that he might be watching too much television these days. But he is a captive of the news flow, and he knows it. He has moments, he says, when he would like to suit up, "get off the bench" and go back in the game.
But when he is invited by President No. 43 to sit in on sensitive meetings, President No. 41 puts a special clamp on mind and mouth. Not his world, not his war. Though there are so many echoes from the past.
"It is the toughest decision a President has to make, to send the sons and daughters of Americans into harm's way," George H.W. declares. He recalls that before he sent these "wonderful young" troops into battle in Panama, the anxiety was terrible. "The night before I could not move my neck or arms. The tension had taken hold, the responsibility for those lives, even though I had been in combat myself."
The father hears the protests these days, and they are uncomfortably familiar. The Episcopal Church's Presiding Bishop, Ed Browning, was outside the White House in 1991 with his NO WAR placard held high, proclaiming that combat was immoral.
The church's current Presiding Bishop, Frank Griswold, not only denounced war but also hinted that because George W. was for it the bishop had to apologize for being an American, as this nation was so "hated and loathed" around the globe. That brought 41 off the bench, and in one of his rare public pronouncements, he said the bishop's remarks were "offensive" and had hurt him deeply. Letters between George H.W. and the bishop are passing in the mail. George W. is mildly amused.
The former President regards Saddam Hussein and his military establishment as far less powerful now than when Desert Storm was launched. But he believes Saddam is surely far wiser about the strength of the U.S. "He had no respect for our military then," says the elder Bush. "He felt that we could not fight. Now he knows."
What is worrisome to 41 is that the battle this time is murkier than in 1991. "In our case it was clearer because Saddam had invaded another country," he says. Weapons of mass destruction harbored and hidden within Iraq is a more difficult concept for the public to understand.
For all of this, the father has not heard any self-pity or talk of the "terrible burdens" of being President from his son. He has observed how 43 uses physical workouts for rejuvenation, to blunt fatigue. Yet he knows being President has its moments of great loneliness. "The decision on the war cannot finally be made by a committee or by a general. It must be made by one person--the President."
Recently George H.W. Bush was at a little family reunion in the White House. Since 9/11 the father has become convinced that confronting terrorism is "the toughest problem facing any President since Abraham Lincoln." On that day, 41 looked up at the wall in the President's study and once again saw what he calls "a glorious picture."
The painting, by George Healy, depicts a meditative Lincoln meeting in 1865 on board the River Queen, anchored in the James River near Richmond, Va., with Generals Ulysses S. Grant and William Tecumseh Sherman and Admiral David Dixon Porter. The picture is named The Peacemakers, and the men are planning the end of the Civil War. In the small window behind Lincoln, the viewer can see a rainbow against a threatening sky.
The elder Bush believes that out of the dark war clouds of the moment another rainbow is coming. In a year he plans to celebrate his 80th birthday with another parachute jump and a few years after that to stand on the bridge of the new aircraft carrier George H.W. Bush as it heads to sea on its maiden voyage. He's not all that worried after all.
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/10/timep.hugh.sidely.tm/index.html

...anyone else not surprised?
 
Originally posted by: Elitebull
and when you compare that to CNN...

'He had no respect for our military then'
The President's father on Saddam, the first Gulf War and what his son faces now
When President No. 43 tells President No. 41 not to worry, he's talking not only as one world leader to another but also as a son to a father. That simple request combines perhaps the most intimate and unusual mix of power and love that this nation has ever witnessed.
"It's my job to worry," says George Bush the elder, with a chuckle. But his concern is not about the rightness of the cause in Iraq or the ability of the President to lead the country in this dangerous time. It is that of a father who sees his son on a lonely and difficult march and knows he may be the only other person on the planet who can completely understand what the President is going through.
George H.W.'s daughter-in-law, the First Lady, has whispered to him that he might be watching too much television these days. But he is a captive of the news flow, and he knows it. He has moments, he says, when he would like to suit up, "get off the bench" and go back in the game.
But when he is invited by President No. 43 to sit in on sensitive meetings, President No. 41 puts a special clamp on mind and mouth. Not his world, not his war. Though there are so many echoes from the past.
"It is the toughest decision a President has to make, to send the sons and daughters of Americans into harm's way," George H.W. declares. He recalls that before he sent these "wonderful young" troops into battle in Panama, the anxiety was terrible. "The night before I could not move my neck or arms. The tension had taken hold, the responsibility for those lives, even though I had been in combat myself."
The father hears the protests these days, and they are uncomfortably familiar. The Episcopal Church's Presiding Bishop, Ed Browning, was outside the White House in 1991 with his NO WAR placard held high, proclaiming that combat was immoral.
The church's current Presiding Bishop, Frank Griswold, not only denounced war but also hinted that because George W. was for it the bishop had to apologize for being an American, as this nation was so "hated and loathed" around the globe. That brought 41 off the bench, and in one of his rare public pronouncements, he said the bishop's remarks were "offensive" and had hurt him deeply. Letters between George H.W. and the bishop are passing in the mail. George W. is mildly amused.
The former President regards Saddam Hussein and his military establishment as far less powerful now than when Desert Storm was launched. But he believes Saddam is surely far wiser about the strength of the U.S. "He had no respect for our military then," says the elder Bush. "He felt that we could not fight. Now he knows."
What is worrisome to 41 is that the battle this time is murkier than in 1991. "In our case it was clearer because Saddam had invaded another country," he says. Weapons of mass destruction harbored and hidden within Iraq is a more difficult concept for the public to understand.
For all of this, the father has not heard any self-pity or talk of the "terrible burdens" of being President from his son. He has observed how 43 uses physical workouts for rejuvenation, to blunt fatigue. Yet he knows being President has its moments of great loneliness. "The decision on the war cannot finally be made by a committee or by a general. It must be made by one person--the President."
Recently George H.W. Bush was at a little family reunion in the White House. Since 9/11 the father has become convinced that confronting terrorism is "the toughest problem facing any President since Abraham Lincoln." On that day, 41 looked up at the wall in the President's study and once again saw what he calls "a glorious picture."
The painting, by George Healy, depicts a meditative Lincoln meeting in 1865 on board the River Queen, anchored in the James River near Richmond, Va., with Generals Ulysses S. Grant and William Tecumseh Sherman and Admiral David Dixon Porter. The picture is named The Peacemakers, and the men are planning the end of the Civil War. In the small window behind Lincoln, the viewer can see a rainbow against a threatening sky.
The elder Bush believes that out of the dark war clouds of the moment another rainbow is coming. In a year he plans to celebrate his 80th birthday with another parachute jump and a few years after that to stand on the bridge of the new aircraft carrier George H.W. Bush as it heads to sea on its maiden voyage. He's not all that worried after all.
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/10/timep.hugh.sidely.tm/index.html

...anyone else not surprised?
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Transcripts are nicer than selective quotes.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Bush Sr. was a much better president.
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Aint that the truth.. I just wish he wouldn't have beat Bush Jr. in the head so often that it caused brain damage.
 
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