Bush says he didn't compromise soul to be popular

BoomerD

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200..._pr_wh/bush_popularity

WASHINGTON ? President George W. Bush knows he's unpopular. But here's what matters, he says: "I didn't compromise my soul to be a popular guy." In a wide-ranging interview with Fox News Channel, Bush also praised the national security team assembled by President-elect Barack Obama, offered hope to U.S. automakers seeking government assistance and said the people of Illinois will have to sort out allegations that Gov. Rod Blagojevich sought kickbacks in choosing a successor for Obama's Senate seat.

Bush said presidents fail when they make decisions based on opinion polls.

"Look, everybody likes to be popular," said Bush.

"What do you expect? We've got a major economic problem and I'm the president during the major economic problem. I mean, do people approve of the economy? No. I don't approve of the economy. ... I've been a wartime president. I've dealt with two economic recessions now. I've had, hell, a lot of serious challenges. What matters to me is I didn't compromise my soul to be a popular guy."

An Associated Press-GFK poll last week showed just 28 percent of the public approving of the job Bush is doing, about where he has been all fall. Among Republicans, 54 percent approve, a low figure from members of a president's own political party.

Bush said he didn't think he would be viewed as the 21st century's Herbert Hoover, who was president during the Great Depression. He said he worked to keep the economy from collapsing.

"I'm a free market guy," Bush said. "But I'm not going to let this economy crater in order to preserve the free market system. So we made a lot of very strong moves and it's been painful for a lot of people, particularly because, you know, this ? the excesses of the past have caused a lot of folks to hurt when it comes to, like, their 401(k)'s or, you know, their jobs."

He said his administration is continuing to look at options for helping the Big Three automakers and that it needs to get done "relatively soon." He said a "disorganized bankruptcy" of one or more of the automakers could cause great harm to the economy "beyond that which we're now witnessing."

"That concerns me," he said. "And the other point is that I ? I'm not interested in ? in really putting good money after bad."

On other subjects:

? Bush called Obama's national security team "solid," especially praising his own Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who will continue in the post in Obama's administration.

"I think the incoming administration's going to have to fully analyze the risks and the tools and ? come to their own conclusion," he said. "But one thing's for certain. I'm confident that President-elect Obama knows that one of his most solemn duties is to protect the American people."

? Bush avoided discussing Blagojevich.

"They're going to have to sort it through in Illinois," Bush said. "Obviously anytime anybody allegedly betrays the public trust there's got to be great concern because, you know, democracy really is, you know, really rests on the trust of the people. It's a system of people and by people and for people. And, therefore, the public trust is important."




How can this guy be so oblivious? Not into "throwing good money after bad?" Iraq is a prime example that he LOVES doing that...as long as it's something that HE wants to piss billions of $$ away on...

Yes, I think that at BEST, he will be the 21st century's "Hoover."
 

Lemon law

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The differences between GWB and Hoover are somewhat glaring. Hoover was the poor smuck who inherited eight years of prior bad public policy and had in collapse on him basically nine months after he became President. And then Hoover did not have any ideas on how to dig out of the hole the country was in.

GWB, on the other hand inherited a government in basically sound shape, granted did suffer from 911 some 9 months into his administration, and then did everything possible during the next eight years to create horrible public policy. And even before he slinks out of office, everything collapses around GWB. And then the idiot named GWB wonders why he is so unpopular after spending eight years ignoring the those who told him he was leading us into disaster.
 

Harvey

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Bush had no soul to compromise. That worthless piece of shit sold his humanity long ago. :thumbsdown: :|

I want to see Bush, Cheney and their entire administration prosecuted for treason, murder, torture, war crimes, crimes and against humanity.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Bush had no soul to compromise. That worthless piece of shit sold his humanity long ago. :thumbsdown: :|

I want to see Bush, Cheney and their entire administration prosecuted for treason, murder, torture, war crimes, crimes and against humanity.

I want to see you charged with crimes against people having to read your worthless posts. You make dmcowen look sane.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I want to see you charged with crimes against people having to read your worthless posts. You make dmcowen look sane.

:lips: my (_!_).

I've read your garbage. You're not competent to read my posts. Your an ethical and moral turd with reading and writing skills and intellectual acumen that never exceded third grade level.
 

spidey07

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That's what makes him so great. When you listen to his words he really takes his position to heart. A staunch defender of freedom, liberty and The Constitution. He had to make the tough decisions that had to be made and IMHO he did it brilliantly. World events that occurred during his legacy were very tough and he still did what was right.
 

winnar111

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?Iraq Has Abused It?s Final Chance?

?Mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them. Because we?re acting today, it is less likely that we will face these dangers in the future.? ? Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: winnar111
?Iraq Has Abused It?s Final Chance?

?Mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them. Because we?re acting today, it is less likely that we will face these dangers in the future.? ? Bill Clinton, December 16, 1998

 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I want to see you charged with crimes against people having to read your worthless posts. You make dmcowen look sane.

:lips: my (_!_).

I've read your garbage. You're not competent to read my posts. Your an ethical and moral turd with reading and writing skills and intellectual acumen that never exceded third grade level.

I prefer to print out your posts and wipe my ass with them. Even that seems unfair to my crap which really has done nothing to deserve such horrible treatment.
 

0marTheZealot

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Originally posted by: spidey07
That's what makes him so great. When you listen to his words he really takes his position to heart. A staunch defender of freedom, liberty and The Constitution. He had to make the tough decisions that had to be made and IMHO he did it brilliantly. World events that occurred during his legacy were very tough and he still did what was right.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Any objective look at his administration would reveal he values none of those principles.

1. Torture.
2. Illegal wire taps.
3. Appointments by loyalty, not by acumen.
4. Carpetbagging dissent.
5. Illegal war based on false premises.
6. Propaganda to repackage said illegal war in a different light.
7. Unilaterally pulling out of major arms treaties (eg Anti-ballistic missile treaty).
8. Outed Valerie Plume for political reasons.
9. Pardoned the official that outed Valerie Plume after promising to persecute said official.
10. Spent more money the country didn't have than any other President in history.

And that's what I can think of in the time before my eggs are done cooking. Bush was nothing less than the worst President in modern times. He was as deceitful as Nixon. He was downright hostile to any dissent. He cared nothing for the rule of law and actively looked for ways to circumvent it. When he was found out, he lied, cheated and scammed his way out of it. He was the most polarizing figure in American politics since Nixon. He claimed a mandate for "conservatism" based on a 50.1% majority. He suppressed any reports that were not conducive to his ideology. I mean, look at what scientists in major government institutions were saying. They said that they had to change their conclusions because the conclusions were unfavorable to the President.

I'm no liberal, but goddamnit man, anyone who thinks this President is an upstanding individual is delusional. There is literally no redeeming quality about this man.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Originally posted by: spidey07
That's what makes him so great. When you listen to his words he really takes his position to heart. A staunch defender of freedom, liberty and The Constitution. He had to make the tough decisions that had to be made and IMHO he did it brilliantly. World events that occurred during his legacy were very tough and he still did what was right.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Any objective look at his administration would reveal he values none of those principles.

1. Torture.
2. Illegal wire taps.
3. Appointments by loyalty, not by acumen.
4. Carpetbagging dissent.
5. Illegal war based on false premises.
6. Propaganda to repackage said illegal war in a different light.
7. Unilaterally pulling out of major arms treaties (eg Anti-ballistic missile treaty).
8. Outed Valerie Plume for political reasons.
9. Pardoned the official that outed Valerie Plume after promising to persecute said official.
10. Spent more money the country didn't have than any other President in history.

And that's what I can think of in the time before my eggs are done cooking. Bush was nothing less than the worst President in modern times. He was as deceitful as Nixon. He was downright hostile to any dissent. He cared nothing for the rule of law and actively looked for ways to circumvent it. When he was found out, he lied, cheated and scammed his way out of it. He was the most polarizing figure in American politics since Nixon. He claimed a mandate for "conservatism" based on a 50.1% majority. He suppressed any reports that were not conducive to his ideology. I mean, look at what scientists in major government institutions were saying. They said that they had to change their conclusions because the conclusions were unfavorable to the President.

I'm no liberal, but goddamnit man, anyone who thinks this President is an upstanding individual is delusional. There is literally no redeeming quality about this man.

At least we have the Messiah taking over who is already the great president in American history although all he has ever done in his life is write some memoirs.
 

chucky2

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I want to see you charged with crimes against people having to read your worthless posts. You make dmcowen look sane.

:lips: my (_!_).

I've read your garbage. You're not competent to read my posts. Your an ethical and moral turd with reading and writing skills and intellectual acumen that never exceded third grade level.

I prefer to print out your posts and wipe my ass with them. Even that seems unfair to my crap which really has done nothing to deserve such horrible treatment.

I LOL'd at this....buwahahahaaa..... :thumbsup:

Chuck
 

Mr. Lennon

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Originally posted by: spidey07
That's what makes him so great. When you listen to his words he really takes his position to heart. A staunch defender of freedom, liberty and The Constitution. He had to make the tough decisions that had to be made and IMHO he did it brilliantly. World events that occurred during his legacy were very tough and he still did what was right.

Now this is the funniest sarcasm I have read all day. You made me spit my Cheerios I was eating all over my fucking keyboard. Hahahahaha.
 

QuantumPion

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Originally posted by: spidey07
That's what makes him so great. When you listen to his words he really takes his position to heart. A staunch defender of freedom, liberty and The Constitution. He had to make the tough decisions that had to be made and IMHO he did it brilliantly. World events that occurred during his legacy were very tough and he still did what was right.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Any objective look at his administration would reveal he values none of those principles.

1. Torture.
2. Illegal wire taps.
3. Appointments by loyalty, not by acumen.
4. Carpetbagging dissent.
5. Illegal war based on false premises.
6. Propaganda to repackage said illegal war in a different light.
7. Unilaterally pulling out of major arms treaties (eg Anti-ballistic missile treaty).
8. Outed Valerie Plume for political reasons.
9. Pardoned the official that outed Valerie Plume after promising to persecute said official.
10. Spent more money the country didn't have than any other President in history.

And that's what I can think of in the time before my eggs are done cooking. Bush was nothing less than the worst President in modern times. He was as deceitful as Nixon. He was downright hostile to any dissent. He cared nothing for the rule of law and actively looked for ways to circumvent it. When he was found out, he lied, cheated and scammed his way out of it. He was the most polarizing figure in American politics since Nixon. He claimed a mandate for "conservatism" based on a 50.1% majority. He suppressed any reports that were not conducive to his ideology. I mean, look at what scientists in major government institutions were saying. They said that they had to change their conclusions because the conclusions were unfavorable to the President.

I'm no liberal, but goddamnit man, anyone who thinks this President is an upstanding individual is delusional. There is literally no redeeming quality about this man.

Wow, and I thought BDS would have subsided now that BHO was elected. Anyway, that's a nice list of liberal meme's you got going there, unfortunately most of them are plainly false.

1) The only thing even remotely resembling torture that we've done is water-boarding. While that may be torture, it was only performed on the most extreme circumstances. If you think any other government in the world doesn't do the same thing and ten times worse, you're kidding yourself. The only reason we are criticized for this is because our government is so open and transparent about the matter compared to any other government.

2) I don't know what illegal wiretaps you are referring to. The only wire taps I heard about were the foreign surveillance ones. And if you think foreign surveillance as a matter of national security should be subject to the standards used by police for gathering evidence in local criminal matters, you're retarded. It makes about as much sense as requiring soldiers Mirandize every single enemy soldier they go to shoot at while being shot at themselves.

3) This is a valid criticism. Let's hope you put the same scrutiny to BHO's and future administrations (not likely though).

4) I don't know what this is referring to.

5) In what way was the war illegal? let me give you a brief but sorely needed histtory lesson. Saddam invaded Kuwait. We, with several allies, drove Saddam out of Kuwait. After annihilating Saddam's army, we could have ousted him right then and there in 1991. But instead, we offered him a cease-fire under the conditions that he abide by certain agreements (no-fly zones, weapons inspectors, etc). Saddam constantly violated those cease-fire terms, and after some 16 UN resolutions authorizing the use of force, we finally had enough and finished the job. So if you think a world coalition, including the support and authorization of the United Nations is not enough to make a war "legal", then you are just cuckoo.

6) This was entirely the media's making. Bush's administration never changed their position or justification for the war (nor any of our allies)

7) Technically, it was the Soviet Union that unilaterally broke the arms treaty by dissolving.

8) We've been through this so many times and still you guys either insist on propagating this outright falsehood. It was Richard Armitage who leaked Plame to Novak. Armitage, in the state department, whom was with the previous administration, not a supporter of Bush in any way.

9) Bush did not pardon Libby, only commuted his sentence. And if you had read the judge's statements during sentencing, you would have done the same or more. Basically, after Libby had been found guilty of lying to the prosecutor (in the same way that Hillary Clinton lied to prosecutors by claiming she couldn't recall various facts during WW), the Judge threw the book at Libby and sentenced him to hard jail time because in his opinion "leaking the secret identity of a secret agent was a heinous act". Even though Libby was not the leaker, and the real leaker was known at the time. Even though Plame was not a secret agent, and her identity was already known regardless. The Judge threw the book at him because he knew Bush would commute/pardon him immediately anyway. It was a pure political move by a democratic hack.

10) Guilty as charged there.
 

Genx87

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I would hope he didnt sell his soul for popularity. Because if he did, he should ask for it back.
 

Zedtom

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He and Bernard Madoff should get a visit from the ghost of Jacob Marley in the middle of the night. Maybe they could repent their sins and really explore their souls.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: spidey07
That's what makes him so great. When you listen to his words he really takes his position to heart. A staunch defender of freedom, liberty and The Constitution. He had to make the tough decisions that had to be made and IMHO he did it brilliantly. World events that occurred during his legacy were very tough and he still did what was right.

Wow, could your nose be any browner or any farther up Bush's ass?

Look, I can sort of cut the 20% of people who still have a shred of respect for Bush some slack, considering they probably don't know any better or are truly brainwashed by some of the bullshit coming out of Washington for the past 8 years. But honestly, the thing Bush doesn't understand is that popularity = people respecting you for doing the right thing.

In other words, Bush doesn't give two shits what anyone thinks of him. He's the decider and if he's going to go off and invade the wrong country post-9/11 on a gut feeling about Saddam and Iraq, later he's not going to give a shit what you or anyone thinks about it. And not only that, he goes on to be a smug asshole full of ego and hubris about it. It's like he's proud of his dysfunctional shitty decision-making faculties.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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It's like he's proud of his dysfunctional shitty decision-making faculties.

It's called "Ignorant and proud of it". My Arkansas relatives have a lot of that. Nice enough folks when you meet them, but they never ought to be President, just like Bush.
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I want to see you charged with crimes against people having to read your worthless posts. You make dmcowen look sane.

:lips: my (_!_).

I've read your garbage. You're not competent to read my posts. Your an ethical and moral turd with reading and writing skills and intellectual acumen that never exceded third grade level.

I prefer to print out your posts and wipe my ass with them. Even that seems unfair to my crap which really has done nothing to deserve such horrible treatment.

:laugh:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

I want to see you charged with crimes against people having to read your worthless posts. You make dmcowen look sane.

:lips: my (_!_).

I've read your garbage. You're not competent to read my posts. Your an ethical and moral turd with reading and writing skills and intellectual acumen that never exceded third grade level.

I prefer to print out your posts and wipe my ass with them. Even that seems unfair to my crap which really has done nothing to deserve such horrible treatment.
Sounds like you have a very unusual and disturbing personal interest in the well being of your excrement.:shocked: