Originally posted by: andy2812
I guess he doesn't take his own advice, since he just kept reading childrens books after the WTC has hit. If that wasn't hesitating, I don't know what is.
Originally posted by: DWW
Uh okay please tell me what the fvck he could have done for those FEW MINUTES he collected his thoughts so he could give some serious words and try to keep people calm. Really? What, was he supposed to fly like superman and stop the towers from falling?
Give me a fvcking break :disgust:
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: DWW
Uh okay please tell me what the fvck he could have done for those FEW MINUTES he collected his thoughts so he could give some serious words and try to keep people calm. Really? What, was he supposed to fly like superman and stop the towers from falling?
Give me a fvcking break :disgust:
With all respect to President Bush, he could have politely excused himself and left, so he could start getting up to speed on the situation. Keep in mind, while the kids read "My Pet Goat," there were still 2 hijacked planes in the air. Instead, interestingly, he engaged in a 20-minute photo op after leaving the classroom, but before taking any further action.
Coincidentally, or not, VP Cheney, that same day, authorized shootdown of civilian airliners over CONUS, a power reserved exclusively for the President (reminiscent of Al Haig saying - and blatantly overstepping his Constitutional authority in doing so - "I'm in charge here," after Reagan was shot).
I really don't want to get into second-guessing President Bush TOO much on this issue, because he was put in an incredibly challenging, novel situation, but I also think it's counter-productive to pretend his actions were the most appropriate ones under the circumstances, when they clearly weren't.
Originally posted by: charrison
Considering Kerry also said he was in a state of shock for about 2 hours after the attack, I dont think it is too wise to attack the president a few minutes of time...
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: charrison
Considering Kerry also said he was in a state of shock for about 2 hours after the attack, I dont think it is too wise to attack the president a few minutes of time...
What's the relevance of that? A senator doesn't have the authority to do anything in that situation, whereas the President is required to. Being "in a state of shock" doesn't imply he would have just sat there for two hours.
Do you really think President Bush's actions, including taking time for the 20-minute photo op, were the most optimal ones under the circumstances? Why? If not, why are you arguing this issue?
I'm not "attacking" the President anyway, BTW - I just want to make sure things work as well as possible if this happens again.
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Now come on... let's not bring Laura into this... she has done nothing to warrant being attacked.
Bush and Kerry are running for the job of President. Their wives should not be attacked.
Thanks...![]()
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Yeah, I love those ads. His wife sitting there like she's brain-dead. Well, she must be, to have married that guy.![]()
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Now come on... let's not bring Laura into this... she has done nothing to warrant being attacked.
Bush and Kerry are running for the job of President. Their wives should not be attacked.
Thanks...![]()
Ummm, Hello.
I know you are a new poster in here but Laura recently trashed Science, that she and her husband know best and we shouldn't be messing with little embryos and stem cells in the name of healing and science.
She is "The Last Lady" as far as Science and this Country is concerned.
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Yeah, I love those ads. His wife sitting there like she's brain-dead. Well, she must be, to have married that guy.![]()
Originally posted by: charrison
Considering this senator wants to be president, it does seem to be relevent.
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: charrison
Considering this senator wants to be president, it does seem to be relevent.
You've ignored the lion's share of my post. I'll reiterate:
Do you really think President Bush's actions, including taking time for the 20-minute photo op, were the most optimal ones under the circumstances? Why? If not, why are you arguing this issue?
Originally posted by: charrison
To be honest, in the grand scheme of things it does not really matter.
This 20 minutes had no effect on the outcome of the day.
Ummm, Hello.
I know you are a new poster in here but Laura recently trashed Science, that she and her husband know best and we shouldn't be messing with little embryos and stem cells in the name of healing and science.
She is "The Last Lady" as far as Science and this Country is concerned.
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: charrison
To be honest, in the grand scheme of things it does not really matter.
This 20 minutes had no effect on the outcome of the day.
Touche. So, in the future, you think the President should spend 27 minutes on reading "My Pet Goat," then being photographed with schoolteachers after the nation is attacked by terrorists? That's the best possible course of action? I'm just polling where you stand on this one . . .
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Yeah, I love those ads. His wife sitting there like she's brain-dead. Well, she must be, to have married that guy.![]()
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: charrison
To be honest, in the grand scheme of things it does not really matter.
This 20 minutes had no effect on the outcome of the day.
Touche. So, in the future, you think the President should spend 27 minutes on reading "My Pet Goat," then being photographed with schoolteachers after the nation is attacked by terrorists? That's the best possible course of action? I'm just polling where you stand on this one . . .
What's the relevance of that? A senator doesn't have the authority to do anything in that situation, whereas the President is required to. Being "in a state of shock" doesn't imply he would have just sat there for two hours.
Originally posted by: Crimson
Yeah, lets talk about what the democrats consider 'strong' women. They consider strong women those that come out and stand by their liar husbands while they get blowjobs in the oval office. Thats real 'strong'. They consider strong women those that come out in support of their husbands after finding out their husband has been f-ing other men, and appointing them to key positions relating to security in our government.. yes, that is a 'strong' woman... a 'smart' woman.
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What's the relevance of that? A senator doesn't have the authority to do anything in that situation, whereas the President is required to. Being "in a state of shock" doesn't imply he would have just sat there for two hours.
Kerry has stated that he sat like a rock, unable to think for 47 minutes after the WTC was hit, and had to be told by the White House to evacuate the building he was in after the Pentagon was hit.
the "Reporting for Duty" battle hardened highly decorated veteran Kerry, didn't have the sense to figure out the building he was in might be a target, after both WTC's are hit, and the Pentagon blows up.
KERRY: I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting -- we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation.