Bush Pulls 'Neocons' Out of the Shadows 1-22-05

[dmcowen674]

I don't use the "N" word anymore but Journalist's are still in love with it:

1-22-2005 Bush Pulls 'Neocons' Out of the Shadows

For more than a year, since the occupation of Iraq turned into the Bush administration's biggest headache, many of the "neocons" have lowered their profiles and muted their rhetoric.

During President Bush's reelection campaign, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz, one of the leading voices for invading Iraq, virtually disappeared from public view.

But on Thursday, Bush proclaimed in his inaugural address that the central purpose of his second term would be the promotion of democracy "in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world" ? a key neoconservative goal. Suddenly, the neocons were ascendant again.

Another sign of the administration's bent: Several of the leading realists of the first term, notably Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and his closest aides, have left. But leading neoconservatives, including Wolfowitz, are staying. And at least one, National Security Council aide Elliott Abrams, is said to be in line for a more prominent job at the State Department or NSC.

 

[Engineer]

Ayep!

 

[GrGr]

From the article:

"This is real neoconservatism," said Robert Kagan, a foreign policy scholar who has been a leading exponent of neocon thinking ? and who sometimes has criticized the administration for not being neocon enough. "It would be hard to express it more clearly. If people were expecting Bush to rein in his ambitions and enthusiasms after the first term, they are discovering that they were wrong."


On the other side of the Republican foreign policy divide, a leading "realist" ? an exponent of the view that promoting democracy is nice, but not the central goal of U.S. foreign policy ? agreed.


"If Bush means it literally, then it means we have an extremist in the White House," said Dimitri Simes, president of the Nixon Center, a conservative think tank that reveres the less idealistic policies of Richard Nixon. "I hope and pray that he didn't mean it ? [and] that it was merely an inspirational speech, not practical guidance for the conduct of foreign policy."

Gee, so even the conservatives think Dubya is an extremist now?

 

[cwjerome]

Nixon was an idiot, a pragmatic sell-out, a military dunce, and economic liberal-wannabe.

Wow, there's actually people on the right that disagree with each other! oooooohhh ahhhhhhhh :roll:

Get a point

 

[Zebo]

Pissing in the wind. But at least his rich frat buddies get a fat piece of the redistribution government pie along the way..Soldiers and families sacifice a little for it though...meh they signed up..might as well put them to work to earn thier keep..right Georgie boy

 

[Taejin]

we need to bring the word of god and democracy to the rest of the ignorant world.

i support george w bush and the good christian values he stands for.

 

[HalosPuma]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
But on Thursday, Bush proclaimed in his inaugural address that the central purpose of his second term would be the promotion of democracy "in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world" ? a key neoconservative goal. Suddenly, the neocons were ascendant again.

You say this like it's a bad thing. Just what exactly is wrong with this? There aren't any conspiracies here - it's out in the open: promote Western democracy. It's in our best interests.

 

[SuperTool]

Neoconservatism will join Naziism and Communism on the ashheap of history.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: HalosPuma

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
But on Thursday, Bush proclaimed in his inaugural address that the central purpose of his second term would be the promotion of democracy "in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world" ? a key neoconservative goal. Suddenly, the neocons were ascendant again.

You say this like it's a bad thing. Just what exactly is wrong with this? There aren't any conspiracies here - it's out in the open: promote Western democracy. It's in our best interests.

Yeah but the Dub and those assholes in his Cabinet are not likely to do much more than to fsck the dog at best like they did in Iraq!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Neoconservatism will join Naziism and Communism on the ashheap of history.

I'm learning more about the area in which I reside now.

In true New Orleans spirit I am changing the name of W from Fearless Liar to "Chef Menteur of the RRR".

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Neoconservatism will join Naziism and Communism on the ashheap of history.

I'm learning more about the area in which I reside now.

In true New Orleans spirit I am changing the name of W from Fearless Liar to "Chef Menteur of the RRR".

Huh?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
You say this like it's a bad thing. Just what exactly is wrong with this? There aren't any conspiracies here - it's out in the open: promote Western democracy. It's in our best interests.

Didn't we try to do that in Vietnam?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: HalosPuma
You say this like it's a bad thing. Just what exactly is wrong with this? There aren't any conspiracies here - it's out in the open: promote Western democracy. It's in our best interests.

Didn't we try to do that in Vietnam?

Those who fail to learn from history are bound to repeat it's mistakes.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Neoconservatism will join Naziism and Communism on the ashheap of history.

I'm learning more about the area in which I reside now.

In true New Orleans spirit I am changing the name of W from Fearless Liar to "Chef Menteur of the RRR".

Huh?

I'm beginning to think this is all a ruse by Dave to make those who oppose the Dub and his policies look retarded. It wasn't that long ago when Dave was taking the same position on a lot of topics that RipRoarin is today..with apologies to Rip for bringing up his name in a thread he hasn't participated in.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Neoconservatism will join Naziism and Communism on the ashheap of history.

I'm learning more about the area in which I reside now.

In true New Orleans spirit I am changing the name of W from Fearless Liar to "Chef Menteur of the RRR".

Huh?

I'm beginning to think this is all a ruse by Dave to make those who oppose the Dub and his policies look retarded. It wasn't that long ago when Dave was taking the same position on a lot of topics that RipRoarin is today..with apologies to Rip for bringing up his name in a thread he hasn't participated in.

Huh???

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Neoconservatism will join Naziism and Communism on the ashheap of history.

I'm learning more about the area in which I reside now.

In true New Orleans spirit I am changing the name of W from Fearless Liar to "Chef Menteur of the RRR".

Huh?

I'm beginning to think this is all a ruse by Dave to make those who oppose the Dub and his policies look retarded. It wasn't that long ago when Dave was taking the same position on a lot of topics that RipRoarin is today..with apologies to Rip for bringing up his name in a thread he hasn't participated in.

Look up "Chef Menteur" :laugh:

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
But on Thursday, Bush proclaimed in his inaugural address that the central purpose of his second term would be the promotion of democracy "in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world" ? a key neoconservative goal. Suddenly, the neocons were ascendant again.

I'm pretty sure this is neocon code for: Kill their leaders, take their oil and convert the people to Christianity.

[Woops, did I say that out loud?]

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Neoconservatism will join Naziism and Communism on the ashheap of history.

I'm learning more about the area in which I reside now.

In true New Orleans spirit I am changing the name of W from Fearless Liar to "Chef Menteur of the RRR".

Huh?

I'm beginning to think this is all a ruse by Dave to make those who oppose the Dub and his policies look retarded. It wasn't that long ago when Dave was taking the same position on a lot of topics that RipRoarin is today..with apologies to Rip for bringing up his name in a thread he hasn't participated in.

Look up "Chef Menteur" :laugh:

Look up "Knucklehead":shocked:

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
But on Thursday, Bush proclaimed in his inaugural address that the central purpose of his second term would be the promotion of democracy "in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world" ? a key neoconservative goal. Suddenly, the neocons were ascendant again.

I'm pretty sure this is neocon code for: Kill their leaders, take their oil and convert the people to Christianity.

[Woops, did I say that out loud?]

Why yes...yes you did! :laugh: