Bush Medicare Bill Speeds up Medicare going Belly up.

[smashp]

Destroying the program are the real Republican intentions.


Report Says Medicare to Go Broke by 2019


The 2019 go-broke date for the Medicare trust fund, which is devoted primarily to paying beneficiaries' hospital bills, is seven years sooner than what the trustees projected last year.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

And yet the Democrats are whining that Bush didn't SPEND enough on the Medicare drug bill. You think it might go broke even faster if the democrats would have gotten thier way? Oh wait that's right -they weren't really "for" a prescription drug bill - they just like to "say" they were for it and kept promising the seniors a drug bill forever .... politics?

Good - our whole "welfare type" systems need to be redone -if this prompts a REAL effort to reform our current systems then good.

CkG

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Good - our whole "welfare type" systems need to be redone -if this prompts a REAL effort to reform our current systems then good.

Maybe you missed the memo . . . according to Bushies . . . they not only saved Medicare but made it "better" with the Modernization Act of 2003.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Good - our whole "welfare type" systems need to be redone -if this prompts a REAL effort to reform our current systems then good.

Maybe you missed the memo . . . according to Bushies . . . they not only saved Medicare but made it "better" with the Modernization Act of 2003.

He coveniently leaves those parts out. The Bush Regime hasn't done anything bad

 

[DanJ]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Good - our whole "welfare type" systems need to be redone -if this prompts a REAL effort to reform our current systems then good.

Maybe you missed the memo . . . according to Bushies . . . they not only saved Medicare but made it "better" with the Modernization Act of 2003.

He coveniently leaves those parts out. The Bush Regime hasn't done anything bad

YEA! Haven't you seen the political ads publicly funded through tax dollars (thus illegal) about the medicare system? How's its "the same, just better!"

I myself am ecstatic my tax dollars are paying for illegal propoganda.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Bush Medicare Bill Speeds up Medicare going Belly up.

well DUH!
that's the plan!

health care is going to become very HMO oriented;

although 'belly up' isn't as appropriate as 'privatized'

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

health care is going to become very HMO oriented;

This point is often missed by people that don't understand the history of managed care. HMOs really worked for wringing many inefficiencies out of the system but all of the low hanging fruit are long gone. With the exception of the elderly most Americans with healthcare get it from some variety of HMO/PPO. There is no HMO model that will solve:

1) a whole bunch of old people with chronic medical conditions
2) insurance companies
3) an increasingly overweight/obese society
4) a sedentary society
5) conditions #3 and #4 developing in early childhood
6) profit motive in hospitals, home health agencies, Big Pharma
7) unscrupulous trial lawyers

If every person in America belonged to an HMO . . . many of these problems would continue unabated. Much like the Medicare debacle that Bushies call reform . . . chopping off the fingers of trial lawyers . . . while an intriguing proposal in and of itself . . . is not a solution. It barely makes any knowledgeable person's top 10. Now if I happened to be a neurosurgeon, orthopedic surgeon, or obstetrician (and loved money) I might have a different perspective.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Good - our whole "welfare type" systems need to be redone -if this prompts a REAL effort to reform our current systems then good.

Maybe you missed the memo . . . according to Bushies . . . they not only saved Medicare but made it "better" with the Modernization Act of 2003.

He coveniently leaves those parts out. The Bush Regime hasn't done anything bad

Or maybe I don't think Bush should have spent the money too Maybe I think they are both wrong and that we shouldn't have created another entitlement(no matter what size they wanted it). But yeah - bleat on!

CkG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DanJ

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Good - our whole "welfare type" systems need to be redone -if this prompts a REAL effort to reform our current systems then good.

Maybe you missed the memo . . . according to Bushies . . . they not only saved Medicare but made it "better" with the Modernization Act of 2003.

He coveniently leaves those parts out. The Bush Regime hasn't done anything bad

YEA! Haven't you seen the political ads publicly funded through tax dollars (thus illegal) about the medicare system? How's its "the same, just better!"

I myself am ecstatic my tax dollars are paying for illegal propoganda.

At least they picked Dax for the voice (Terri Farrell) from Deep Space Nine.