Bush has already blown any chance for "bi-partisanship".

[techs]

So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Yeah! They should show him! The party is more important than the country!

 

[slash196]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Yeah! They should show him! The party is more important than the country!

News flash: every single thing George W Bush has done since he was elected was bad for the country. Don't pretend like you suddenly care about moving forward as a nation. It's time for some good ol' fashioned revenge.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: slash196

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Yeah! They should show him! The party is more important than the country!

News flash: every single thing George W Bush has done since he was elected was bad for the country. Don't pretend like you suddenly care about moving forward as a nation. It's time for some good ol' fashioned revenge.

Pelosi should tell reps: First time Bush vetos = Instant Impeachment/Investigations hearings

Time to spend some capital now that the Americans have spoken

(They got away with murder on our constitution etc. time to fix this, and of course, payback is hell)

 

[RedBeard]

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Ummm no. He has been nominated.

"Gates has served six presidents in both Republican and Democratic administrations."

"Former senator Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), whose questioning of Gates in 1987 led to the withdrawal of his nomination to be CIA director, praised his "ability to work closely with Congress on a bipartisan basis" and said he "has a well-deserved reputation on both sides of the aisle for competency and integrity."



Please read a little next time. Thanks!

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Looks like Team Bush is desperate to make a few last-minute moves on the chessboard before the scrutiny is upon them. Bush talks a good game about bi-partisanship but he has nothing but sheer contempt for Democrats. Merely reference some of the things he said about them leading up to the mid-terms.

 

[sandmanwake]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: slash196

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Yeah! They should show him! The party is more important than the country!

News flash: every single thing George W Bush has done since he was elected was bad for the country. Don't pretend like you suddenly care about moving forward as a nation. It's time for some good ol' fashioned revenge.

Pelosi should tell reps: First time Bush vetos = Instant Impeachment/Investigations hearings

Time to spend some capital now that the Americans have spoken

(They got away with murder on our constitution etc. time to fix this, and of course, payback is hell)

It'd be pointless. The Democrats don't have the numbers to succeed with an impeachment.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Does he understand the difference between Bi-Partisan and Bi-Polar ?

 

[Lemon law]

As posted by sandmanwake----It'd be pointless. The Democrats don't have the numbers to succeed with an impeachment.

How quickly we forget Nixon---when the last tapes came out---and Nixon was shown to be the liar he was---it was the Republicans who shouted loudest for Nixon's removal.

Either GWB is going to get with bi-partisanship---or he is going to be the roadblock that must be removed---GWB has already received his big wake up call dope slap from the American public---and if he tries to usurp power and go against the constitution, and further loses public support---the GOP may well lead the impeachment GWB movement.---and GWB could get the old heave ho with incredible speed.

Very few people ever grow up so undeterred by any reality---and when they gain this type of political power---they are always accidents waiting to happen.

 

[bobdelt]

whats wrong with him believing in what he believes in? Just because the party is down he should consult with dems? He's not a wuss

bi-partisanship... = i dont care about what i believe in, lets just do something

 

[LegendKiller]

Heh, now he wants to ramrod a domestic surveillance program, all before his butt buddies leave.

Great job sparkies, this is EXACTLY the reason why I voted you out and if you actually push this trash through you won't ever get my vote again. Ever.

 

[HombrePequeno]

But he's a uniter not a divider!

 

[Lemon law]

I somewhat worry that GWB will shortly lose all his marbles----he is very much like Richard Nixon in scary executive privilege.

But unlike Nixon---GWB has none of that paranoia that the world is out to get him---so he must be careful.--ever so careful to have a well honed political sense.

And unlike Nixon---he lacks the intellect and study habits to understand any view point but his own.

All GWB has is a unshakable confidence that he is right---no matter how bad things look now---and nothing but a lifetime of experience of having someone else bail him out of every
mess that blows up in face.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
All GWB has is a unshakable confidence that he is right---no matter how bad things look now---and nothing but a lifetime of experience of having someone else bail him out of every
mess that blows up in face.

He's never done anything wrong, ever. That's why he thinks he's always right.

 

[ntdz]

Bush never got a chance for bipartisanship, his party has controlled congress since he's been President, with the except on 2000-2002 when Democrats had a razor thin margin in the Senate...

 

[wirelessenabled]

Originally posted by: sandmanwake

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: slash196

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Yeah! They should show him! The party is more important than the country!

News flash: every single thing George W Bush has done since he was elected was bad for the country. Don't pretend like you suddenly care about moving forward as a nation. It's time for some good ol' fashioned revenge.

Pelosi should tell reps: First time Bush vetos = Instant Impeachment/Investigations hearings

Time to spend some capital now that the Americans have spoken

(They got away with murder on our constitution etc. time to fix this, and of course, payback is hell)

It'd be pointless. The Democrats don't have the numbers to succeed with an impeachment.

Uhm? Impeachment only requires a simple majority of the House of Representatives.

Last count I saw the Dems were well above that.

 

[Aisengard]

The Dems won't give an ultimatum. They are the party that's supposed to be 'above it all' (we've heard that before), so ultimatums would just look like cheap political tricks.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Sounds like you were always poised for war. Bi-partisanship my ***.

Only thing you want in Washington is a blood bath.

 

[Lemon law]

Right now everyone is in post election shock---and speculating way past the facts in yet---GWB is still talking somewhat tough---but is he prepared to match his rhetoric with action
against long odds.

We will soon see.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

The President has appointed the man. He still needs to be confirmed by the senate. This is the system and proposing a new SOD Bush is only following the correct legal procedure.

Frankly, nothing to do with partisanship.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: slash196

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Yeah! They should show him! The party is more important than the country!

News flash: every single thing George W Bush has done since he was elected was bad for the country. Don't pretend like you suddenly care about moving forward as a nation. It's time for some good ol' fashioned revenge.

Pelosi should tell reps: First time Bush vetos = Instant Impeachment/Investigations hearings

Time to spend some capital now that the Americans have spoken

(They got away with murder on our constitution etc. time to fix this, and of course, payback is hell)

I take it then that you don't want a Democratic president the next time around.

The people voted for a change, they want their reps to have some balls and make a difference in some major issues that are plaguing this country, opportunities that the republicans squandered the dems have a chance to make right.

Wasting the next 2 years trying to impeach the President will not endear them to the voters that put them in power.

They were put in power to show that they can do something more than thier predicessors and although you would like to see him impeached as I am sure many other would, it would do nothing but waste time and the voters would see it not as a chance fore change, but an opportunity for revenge..a wasting taxpayer money and time instead of trying and get some of the issues resolved.

Not one democrat ran on the platform that if they were elected they would vote to impeach the president, there is a reason for that...they knew if they did they would lose.

 

[d3n]

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

The President has appointed the man. He still needs to be confirmed by the senate. This is the system and proposing a new SOD Bush is only following the correct legal procedure.

Frankly, nothing to do with partisanship.

I agree, what the heck. Do you expect an administration to appoint a cabinet level position based on the opinions of an outsider. These are positions of trust and confidence with the president. Anyone in that position is going to pick someone they can trust and confide in. Not someone they have to wonder about second guessing. Naturally they should be qualified for the job so that is what the approval process should hash out.

The military needs leadership. This is not something string out and make a show over to just kowtow to some democrats who might be offended.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: slash196

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

Yeah! They should show him! The party is more important than the country!

News flash: every single thing George W Bush has done since he was elected was bad for the country. Don't pretend like you suddenly care about moving forward as a nation. It's time for some good ol' fashioned revenge.

I hope the Democrats follow your advice.

Seek revenge for the next two years, I am sure the American people voted Democrats into power during a time of war to get revenge.

Did anyone notice that on the list of reasons people voted the NSA and other domestic terrorism programs were not even on the list? American people are not paying much attention to that stuff.
What they are paying attention to is Iraq and the scandals. (And these weren't Bush scandals, they were congressional scandals. The Bush White House has been nearly scandal free.)

You had better work on offering the American people a reason to vote for you in 2008, because you won't be able to run as the anti-Bush party again. Personally, I will not be surprised if they follow your advice and lose their way.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: d3n

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: techs
So Bush picked a new Sec. of Defense. And didn't consult with even one Democrat.
Then Bush announces he will try and get Bolton thru the Senate in a lame duck session.
I say Bush has already shown his stripes. He doesn't care one wit about working with the Dems and the Dems should start by filibustering all Bush appointments until the new Congress comes in.

The President has appointed the man. He still needs to be confirmed by the senate. This is the system and proposing a new SOD Bush is only following the correct legal procedure.

Frankly, nothing to do with partisanship.

I agree, what the heck. Do you expect an administration to appoint a cabinet level position based on the opinions of an outsider. These are positions of trust and confidence with the president. Anyone in that position is going to pick someone they can trust and confide in. Not someone they have to wonder about second guessing. Naturally they should be qualified for the job so that is what the approval process should hash out.

The military needs leadership. This is not something string out and make a show over to just kowtow to some democrats who might be offended.

I think you may be missing my point. The president only proposes who he would like to see in the post. It is the Senates job to see if that person is suitable, qualified, and someone they think will serve the post and the american people. They can always reject the proposal - and should if they do not deem the person appropriate.

Part of the problem with this admin is that they have been nominating people based on personal trust and loyalty with little regard to merit. Because oversight was lacking (rubber stamp congress?) they have been able to get away with it. Looks like that will be more difficult now.

 

[Aisengard]

I just wish the Alito confirmation could have been after the Democrats gained power. Oh well, stuck with another douchebag as a Supreme Court member. With Scalia, that makes two bonafide douchebags. Roberts I actually kinda like, Thomas I don't really like but he's not at the level of smarminess as Alito and Scalia, and the rest I'm ambivalent about.