Bush Deputy CIA Director admits we were lied to in the run up to the Iraq War

[xBiffx]

Classic liberal circle jerking. It's not like any Democrat ever voted for the war. Oh, they were lied to. Right, because the legislative branch has no power to investigate anything or collect intelligence.....

It's all the CIA, which of course means its all Bush. You liberals are quite funny when you get in your little sewing circles.

 

[Jhhnn]

...or created by Obama when he prematurely withdrew forces that were keeping the peace...

That's astoundingly lame. Once a new Iraqi govt was formed, the Bush Admin entered into a SOFA agreement with them, one recognized by the UN & one that established a firm withdrawal date for all troops, dependent entirely on Iraqi approval. They insisted it be implemented. Had we not, we could have ended up fighting the govt we set up & claimed to be legitimate.

Shee-it, Sherlock. We couldn't pacify the country with 200K troops and the help of the Iraqi govt, let alone with a smaller remnant force & a hostile Iraqi govt. The notion that we could have is pure denial & desperate blame shifting.

 

[Bowfinger]

I see the usual Bush apologists haven't lost their touch. Under no circumstances may their lord be held accountable, no matter what the facts show. It is always someone, anyone else's fault.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yeh, she and Congress were fools enough to take GWB at his word. I think she learned from that experience. Today's Republicans? Not so much. They're all claiming that it was the Bush Admin who was "mistaken" in believing "faulty intelligence" they cherry picked themselves for the purpose of invading Iraq. Congress never considered the idea that it was all a monstrous deception & Repubs still can't. They lack the moral fortitude to question their own beliefs.

It really is a nifty self sealing delusion.

Funny how her Husband and other Democrats believed that Saddam had WMD's prior to Bush taking office. There are plenty of videos to prove such but don't let that stop you from your daily scheduled But BBBBuuuusshh!!! did it or blaming the the GOP for any and everything wrong in the world.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I see the usual Bush apologists haven't lost their touch. Under no circumstances may their lord be held accountable, no matter what the facts show. It is always someone, anyone else's fault.

Oh looky another but BBBBuuusshhhh!!!! derpy derp derp derp

Your beloved Democrats believed Saddam had WMDs prior to Bush taking office and why they believed the intelligence when they voted to authorize the Iraq war. As usual it always someone else's fault because liberals can't be that stupid.........obviously they were that stupid as they believed it to be the truth long before they made their decision.

 

[Jhhnn]

Funny how her Husband and other Democrats believed that Saddam had WMD's prior to Bush taking office. There are plenty of videos to prove such but don't let that stop you from your daily scheduled But BBBBuuuusshh!!! did it or blaming the the GOP for any and everything wrong in the world.

Astoundingly lame. The Clinton Admin did not use such claims to invade Iraq. Only the Bush Admin's battle cry of "9/11 changed everything!" made the invasion possible. Given the greatest political windfall since Pearl Harbor, they exploited it ruthlessly to engage in naked military aggression.

One of their war mongering predecessors put it succinctly-

Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY.

That was Herman Goring. It's even easier in this country when we don't risk our own destruction at all.

 

[Bowfinger]

Oh looky another but BBBBuuusshhhh!!!! derpy derp derp derp

You needn't work so hard at being a complete idiot. It's clearly a natural talent.

Try to keep up. This thread is about Bush, his administration, and the deliberate disinformation they used to launch a war against Iraq. Of course people are going to talk about him here, and that's perfectly appropriate. He's not some Holy Prophet, where every mention of His name requires sputtering outrage by his faithful.

Your beloved Democrats believed Saddam had WMDs prior to Bush taking office and why they believed the intelligence when they voted to authorize the Iraq war. As usual it always someone else's fault because liberals can't be that stupid.........obviously they were that stupid as they believed it to be the truth long before they made their decision.

Yes dear, and Iraq still had significant WMD capabilities in the 90's. Clinton bombed them, and was largely successful in destroying them. We had inspectors in Iraq to determine what was left, but the more they found nothing, the more strident BushCo became about invading. Bush finally forced the inspectors out before they could finish their work.

And yes, as much as it pains your Bush-worshipping soul, that is first and foremost the responsibility of George W. Bush and his merry band of chicken hawks, sociopaths, and war profiteers. Congress certainly has culpability too, for accepting his lies, but the primary fault is Bush's.


PS. And far from them being my "beloved Democrats," I called them cowards when they voted with Republicans to hand boy George a loaded gun. It was clear to me then BushCo was lying, both about Iraq's threat and his promise that the AUMF was a bargaining chip, while force was really a last resort. Not.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

How could such intelligent people be duped by Bush?? How is it possible that such intelligent people could be so stupid???

Hmmmm guess they weren't very smart after all eh????

 

[Orignal Earl]

It won't. The truth is too painful. America isn't strong enough to admit that the war was a waste of time, that all those Americans who died shouldn't have. As strong as America is that is a bandaid it cannot pull off and never will.

So basically, hundreds of thousands of innocents dead...and America isn't strong enough to admit that the war was a "waste of time"
Oh and "it's not my fault"

 

[Atreus21]

That's astoundingly lame. Once a new Iraqi govt was formed, the Bush Admin entered into a SOFA agreement with them, one recognized by the UN & one that established a firm withdrawal date for all troops, dependent entirely on Iraqi approval. They insisted it be implemented. Had we not, we could have ended up fighting the govt we set up & claimed to be legitimate.

Shee-it, Sherlock. We couldn't pacify the country with 200K troops and the help of the Iraqi govt, let alone with a smaller remnant force & a hostile Iraqi govt. The notion that we could have is pure denial & desperate blame shifting.

Interesting, because to hear Obama tell it, one would think the withdrawal was a major foreign policy achievement for him, and that Bush had nothing to do with it.

 

[Bowfinger]

How could such intelligent people be duped by Bush?? How is it possible that such intelligent people could be so stupid???

Hmmmm guess they weren't very smart after all eh????

Could you deflect any harder? Do you have the integrity to actually discuss the information in the OP, or is shilling for Bush all you have?

In any case, most weren't stupid. They were cowards. The Bush administration was fanning the fear-mongering flames to stupid Americans. Anyone who questioned the BushCo narrative was branded as un-American, and supporting the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 (even though Iraq had nothing to do with it). Many Congressional Democrats and most Republicans chose the politically safe route and gave Bush what he wanted.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Poor Bowfinger, trying to defend the so called intelligent elite who were bamboozled by an stammering idiot. They could have said/voted "No" but they actually believed the intelligence was true and voted "Yes"

 

[Tombstone1881]

Congress expected the republican president and his cabinet to be giving them honest information.

What a bunch of gullible dumbasses in trusting the republicans!

 

[bshole]

...or created by Obama when he prematurely withdrew forces that were keeping the peace...

....American troops that were DYING and an empty teasury that was getting EMPTIER. You do realize that Americans were dying to keep that peace don't you? We stayed there a decade. How long EXACTLY did you want us to stay? How many young American soldiers had to die before you gave up your ludicrous plan of shoehorning a govenment on the Iraqi people AGAINST THEIR WILL? Common Iraqis loathe America and with damn good reason. Doubling down on retarded is not going to work. Get the fuck out and let the people of that country create their own state. NONE OF OUR BUSINESS

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/16/countries-hate-america_n_2885778.html

 

[xBiffx]

Yep, the president is the only source of intelligence for Congress. There is a joke there. Too bad its not really that funny when you think about it.

 

[feralkid]

How could such intelligent people be duped by Bush?? How is it possible that such intelligent people could be so stupid???

Hmmmm guess they weren't very smart after all eh????

Again, the point is to blame the liars, not the people who were lied to.

 

[feralkid]

Yep, the president is the only source of intelligence for Congress.

Who is claiming that?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Blame whoever you wish, the fact of the matter is the people who voted yes allowed a stammering idiot to bamboozle them. Due to this fact, they truly should not be allowed to serve the country in any controlling position as they can't be trusted to research the issue and make wise decisions based on their research.

 

[sm625]

That same gun was smoking already in 2002. If enough dumbed down sheeple choose to ignore it and parrot the propaganda, then it doesnt matter how many smoking guns there are.

 

[dank69]

Wow, to think the Democrat front runner actually believed the lies and voted for the war.

She has changed her views though! I mean, not in 2008, but in 2016! So all is good now. Lip service proves she regrets her decision. She is so trust worthy. Either way not her fault for being duped. She was lied to by a Republican.

Classic liberal circle jerking. It's not like any Democrat ever voted for the war. Oh, they were lied to. Right, because the legislative branch has no power to investigate anything or collect intelligence.....

It's all the CIA, which of course means its all Bush. You liberals are quite funny when you get in your little sewing circles.

Are we still pretending that Bush didn't claim he needed the AUMF for negotiating purposes and it would only be used as a last resort?

 

[thraashman]

I've always said failing to prosecute Nixon left successors open to shenanigans.

It's not just Nixon. We've never really held Presidents accountable. Andrew Jackson defied a USSC order, nothing happened. FDR interned US citizens, no consequences. The already mentioned Gulf of Tonkin and Nixon, no penalties though Nixon did resign. Reagan committed treason with Iran Contra, conservatives consider him the best President ever. Bush 2 did I can't count how many wrong and/or illegal things, never saw consequences. Hell, the biggest legal repercussion a US President has seen in history has been over getting a blowjob!

 

[thraashman]

Interesting, because to hear Obama tell it, one would think the withdrawal was a major foreign policy achievement for him, and that Bush had nothing to do with it.

Yes, Obama deserves some flack for taking credit for doing something he had no choice but to do without violating a ratified agreement. I'm sure everyone will agree that taking credit where it wasn't due is exactly as bad getting thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed while creating the most dangerous radical terrorist group in the history of the world. Yep, that's just as bad.

 

[thraashman]

Are we still pretending that Bush didn't claim he needed the AUMF for negotiating purposes and it would only be used as a last resort?

In Bush's defense, as proved by his belief that giving the rich more money would somehow benefit the poor and magically create more money for the government, he isn't particularly good at math. So last resort and first resort may just be terms he mixes up.

 

[Bowfinger]

Poor Bowfinger, trying to defend the so called intelligent elite who were bamboozled by an stammering idiot. They could have said/voted "No" but they actually believed the intelligence was true and voted "Yes"

You don't need to work so hard at being a complete idiot and a lying shill. They are clearly natural talents.

What part of "They were cowards." was too hard for you to understand?

 

[Bowfinger]

Are we still pretending that Bush didn't claim he needed the AUMF for negotiating purposes and it would only be used as a last resort?

We've seen time and again the Bush apologists will say and do anything to deflect accountability from their hero.