Bush: Dems can't be trusted to run Congress

LegendKiller

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/03/bush.ap/index.html


Lets see here.


-Pervert Republicans eroding values

-Elimination of personal freedoms (wiretap, patriot act)

-Endangerment of soldiers (circumvention and redefinition of Geneva conventions)

-Massive spending, tax cuts, and debt despite relatively strong inflows
Unfettered wiretaps, no investigations

-Abuse of power, circumvention of checks and balances in pre-war intelligence manipulation

-Borrowing from the future to create more pork-barrel and shackle future generations with higher debt

-A "No child left behind" act that has funding that was left behind

-Afghanistan in disarray

-Iraq in deep crap

-Prescription drug plan compounding debt

-700mi wall that isn't funded, no comprehensive plan to deal with illegals and open boarders

-Massive corruption in Repub party (abramoff)

-Overall lack of any checks against the executive branch

-Speeches by Congress approved cabinet members that say that Congress and USSC has no power over the President

Yeah, we can *REALLY* trust the Republicans to run congress. In 6 years they have failed to check or balance the President, protect their constituations, balance the budget, controll spending, limit rights abuses, cut down on election fraud, cut down on candidate funding fraud, create any type of good plan to help social security out, fund any type of child program, and not do anything about illegal immigration.

 

Pens1566

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Nope. But those that cover up for pedophiles can be trusted to run it. :(

<Insert joke about catholic church here>
 

Drakkon

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no politicians can be trusted in congress...every one of your points can be applied to a democrat in one way or another due to the fact they had to vote, or they didnt philibuster to keep things from happening, or the great classic "clinton did it first" :p
if you dont like it get out and vote...not for a politician but for a representative of YOU. soemone that isnt going to take bribes from beurocrats and vote down party lines 99% of the time just because (good luck finding someone like this though)
 

Darkhawk28

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I've never agreed with every stance that the Dems take, but I can't help but imagine that couldn't possibly do any worse.

 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I've never agreed with every stance that the Dems take, but I can't help but imagine that couldn't possibly do any worse.

What stance is that? That we couldn't possibly be worse, or that we wouldn't f'up the country as bad, or that we just wouldn't do what they did?

Seriously, the absence of a f'up is a political position and a very good one for the vast majority fo the items on my list. It's funny that the Dems get lambasted for saying "Iraq was a mistake, GWB didn't do it right", when in fact it *WAS* a mistake. Then people say "they have no solution". Well, their solution is to undo a mistake, what's wrong with that?

 

Lemon law

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Granted Iraq was a mistake---but not every mistake can be undone---the consequences of just cutting and running are equally dire--but if we are going to get out of Iraq in good shape---its going to have to be done on a bi-partisan basis and take national resolve.---and the plan must come from a uniter---not a divider.---playing partisan politics is the last thing needed right now.

GWB is not just part of the problem---he is almost 100% the problem.
 

EagleKeeper

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If/when the Dems get back into a state of parity or control, it willbe interesting if they will change their overall habits to distance themselves from the Repub or state the course because "they did it".

This applys to military as well as domestic programs.
 

GeNome

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I see Bush is still working on the whole 'Bringing the country together with bipartisanship' thing.
 

ericlp

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Yes... Dems as well as repubs have their own unique set of problems. BUT.... Bush takes the cake for the worst leader we have ever had. I don't trust any of them but I sure as hell don't trust bush. I'd rather get someone in there that hopefully I can trust a little bit then NONE at all.

Sigh...

Tho, it is funny that he should be talking about "trust" since his is the most worthless POS on the planet....
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I've never agreed with every stance that the Dems take, but I can't help but imagine that couldn't possibly do any worse.

Cant get worse? How about a Jessie Jackson/Pat Robertson ticket? Im afraid thats what its going to take to wake the country up. The line between Dem and Repub is so hazy now, I pretty much lump them all together.


edit: grammar :p
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
If/when the Dems get back into a state of parity or control, it willbe interesting if they will change their overall habits to distance themselves from the Repub or state the course because "they did it".

This applys to military as well as domestic programs.

Seeing how there really isnt many other options, stay the course will be the answer.
 

umbrella39

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I've said this before, I'll say it again, no good ever comes from absolute power. It is not a matter of trust, it is a matter of checks. There are no checks currently in place and look where it has gotten us...
 
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Oh the irony of the idiot in chief claiming the Democrats can't be trusted. Wow. That is rich. The most perverted, crooked, duplicitous, Dictatorial government in U.S. history and the other guys can't be trusted? Get a clue, Republicans. The Dems won't take control this time around, but the tide is starting to turn.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
If/when the Dems get back into a state of parity or control, it willbe interesting if they will change their overall habits to distance themselves from the Repub or state the course because "they did it".

This applys to military as well as domestic programs.

Seeing how there really isnt many other options, stay the course will be the answer.

Yeah, because it's obvious that you can't win, then not losing for another decade is the best answer.

Face it, Bush's plan to transform the middle-east into a nation-building excercise was doomed from the beginning and has only squandered precious resources. We now have two options, stand lose, or lose now and save what we can.

Eventually the only option will be to cut bait and leave. However, it's going to take some time for Americans to realize that we f'd up once more and that we were hoodwinked again. Too bad that it will come too late for thousands of Iraqi's, perhaps thousands more soldiers, and a few more trillion dollars.

 
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Exactly. Cutting and running is probably the best thing to do now. Why sit around in the kill zone, getting killed? If they start training Jihadis there (course they are training there now, using live targets, our guys) we bomb 'em. We proved in Iraq and Afghanistan that an enemy out in the open can be bombed into submission. I don't think the Dems will do that, they will institute a phased redeployment, training the Iraqis as quickly as possible and turning control over to them, quickly, with deadlines, and a hopefully with a proper plan to carry it all out, UNLIKE the Repubicans. who have screwed the project up from the beginning. We need to FIRE them.
 

will889

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We had/have the manpower to get the job of transitioning the Iraqi police to be in total control - we simply failed to allocate those resources in enough quantity in time to do the job and get out properly.
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
If/when the Dems get back into a state of parity or control, it willbe interesting if they will change their overall habits to distance themselves from the Repub or state the course because "they did it".

This applys to military as well as domestic programs.


Yeah I'm kind of curious to see what will happen
 

mfs378

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It sounds so desperate its almost funny except for the fact that there are people out there who buy every word of it.
 

sandorski

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If Bush said it, you know it must be true! Come on now, you know I'm right.
 

Lemon law

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People of Florida---vote for Foley---people of Texas---vote for Delay----people of Lousiania---vote for Jefferson---vote for your local corrupt congressperson. Stamp out integrity in Washington.---and right now its the democrats who stand in the way of total corruption.

Corruption now corruption forever---remember they are not just corrupt---they are stealing for you also--regardless of which party has corrupt members---birds of a feather must flock together----in the land of Washington---where shadows lie---never--by state rights should you let your local theif get upstaged by a greater theif elsewhere.

And since the Republicans are now in power---if you can't lick em--join um.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Lemon law


And since the Republicans are now in power---if you can't lick em--join um.



They do make me horny,

Love to slip 'em off!


;)